While he played last night (less snaps than usual) and was targeted a lot (many bad throws and two missed TD's with better throws), he didn't look like he had his normal burst. It also looked like he couldn't elevate for a couple high passes. Not a total loss like Jamo was but definitely not himself either.
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WR Emeka Egbuka, TB (5 Viewers)
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
I'd flush that game. Really weird game script and plan. I know Grizzard was thinking they wanted to take advantage of their secondary, but it was clear very early on they could not handle Hutch and the Lions up front, but they just kept dropping back to pass with 5 eligibles that couldn't get open. Once Mike got hurt they should have adjusted to heavy sets and creative run/screen game.
Really positive that Egbuka made it all the way through without re-aggravating the injury.
Really positive that Egbuka made it all the way through without re-aggravating the injury.
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
Yeah, he was playing at like 85-90% .. More concerned about Baker, he seemed banged up. A bunch of his throws were late without any zip on it. He missed 3 wide open touchdowns .. Two to Emeka, one to Tez.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Not to make excuses, I think he was definitely playing compromised but you did have Detroit, at home, off a big loss, prime time game. That place was a mad house and Detroit seemed extra movivated probably from the bad press and the Branch suspension. But more than anything, most surprising, Detroit just manhandled them up front with Wirfs back.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
FTR: Hutchinson lined up over back up Right Tackle, Andy Heck, I didn't notice him line up over Whirfs much of the night and why would he?
Hutchinson didn't record a sack after setting a team record ith 5 straight games registering a sack
Bucs had 4 sacks, Lions had 4 sacks
But yeah the Detroit DL was strong all night, especially where the Bucs are lining up a back up RG and RT
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Wirfs was fine. Hutch and crew were manhandling a backup RT in Heck and a 3rd string RG. They annihilated the right side of the line to the point where the Bucs actually ran a play with Wirfs at RT just so they could throw a pass to the right side of the field.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Hutch didn’t have a sack but he absolutely wrecked the game plan. Baker had nowhere to go because they were double and triple teaming him with his checkdowns leaving DBs and LBs covering everyone else.
Baker still missed several throws but the Lions defense was incredible.
Baker still missed several throws but the Lions defense was incredible.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I'm not attacking Wirfs particularly, more the pressure Detroit was able to generate or so it seems. I mean a weak secondary has to be covered up up front, and Baker looked like he was seeing ghosts 20 minutes into the game.
My overall point, I'm calling this one bad, weird game, they lost a franchise player so lets see how they move forward. A repeat performance and now we have data points, but for now, I'm looking at calling this just a blip.
Fun stat: The Saints run the 8th most zone coverage of any team in the NFL (the classic Brandon Staley soft zone that Chargers fans not so fondly remember) Emeka Egbuka is WR4 against zone coverage this year.
This is a smash spot. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Egbuka was the #1 WR in fantasy this week.
This is a smash spot. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Egbuka was the #1 WR in fantasy this week.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
They put on the DET tape and they might rethink playing zone. Tampa really struggled against Detroit’s press man.
NO may not have the horses up front to play that way though.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Couple of duds for the young stud. How we feeling. Top 10 rest of year? Top 15?
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
He's been money for most of the year but I'm hedging my bet this week and benching Baker for Darnold and rolling with Egbuka.
Footballdaz
Footballguy
He had 3 weeks in a row of duds. He's clearly not ready to be a teams wr1
He didn't do so well with top coverage on him.
ponchsox
Footballguy
He’s a low-end WR1 for fantasy. If Baker made better throws on two end-zone passes last game, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I think it's more the hammy than anything. Bowles let it slip in an interview the other day that he has been playing "injured."
Grahamburn
Footballguy
The Bucs did not have Mike Evans in either the Eagles nor Seahawks games. He hurt the hamstring against SF.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
He had the hip early on too
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I’ve been watching the games the past few weeks and the problem seems to be Baker (not Egbuka).
SanDawg
Footballguy
Agreed. Everything seems to be high. With all receivers.
pinequick
Footballguy
Absolutely--and frustratingly, the last couple of weeks Baker ALWAYS seems high on his throws to Egbuka (as an Egbuka shareholder, I've yelled it at the TV on several occasions).
Baker has always been streaky, and the last couple his accuracy hasn't been great.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I think he's hurt. Or was hurt. And the line has been really bad the last couple games. They even moved Wirfs over to RT against the Lions for a play just so they could get a throw off to the right. It has been that bad. The backup Heck leads the league in pressures allowed.
If they can get Goedeke back soon that will solidify it some.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Goedeke is back at practice today. Bucky and Godwin still out.
He was injured and you could tell he didn't have the same burst or movement. Couple that with Baker being terrible (a handful of bad throws to an open Egbuka that would have resulted in at least 2 TD's and some long plays) and you wouldn't be saying he's not ready to be a WR1.
I wouldn't take those three games as a sign of anything significant with regards to future production.........unless you think Baker is not going to get back to his early year play. But Egbuka is fine IMO.
chad in Indy
Footballguy
He still hasn't been activated yet fr IR-R, correct?
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Goedeke was activated and has his practice window open.
