WR Gabriel Davis, BUF (5 Viewers)

[TZMarkie]

Jokes aside, I didn't get to see all the game, just bits and pieces.
That said, I own Diggs in one league, and Allen in another.

Kinda wished I'd snagged Davis in another league, but there were other players in those appropriate rounds I liked more.
(I did think he would have a good season, which is another reason I picked up Allen where I did)

 

[dmac37]

So do us Davis owners feel better or worse after game 1? I personally was hoping for more targets and not being TD dependent. Looking more like a boom bust TD dependent low WR2/WR3 than a solid WR2 I was expecting.

The guy almost had a second 50 yard td.

Second most targets. Sure only 5. But he’s the WR2 on the team behind…. Diggs… who showed us all why.

And 5 targets in a game they pretty much dominated the whole way.

Relax.

Honestly, that was on Allen. Davis was open by 3 yards. If Allen put a little more mustard on that ball it’s a 50+ yard TD instead of a 44 yard catch.

I also saw that, my point is I thought he was going to elevate to NOT being TD dependent, but tonight's game hints that it may be more of the same as the last 2 years. Way too early at this stage, but I think the group think is the rising star WR2 on the powerful Bills offense will have a higher week to week floor. I still believe in Gabe and will let the next few weeks play out.

 

[QuizGuy66]

He was on the field every play but 1. 20 more snaps than Diggs.
I think good things are coming.

-QG

 

[VikingFrog]

So do us Davis owners feel better or worse after game 1? I personally was hoping for more targets and not being TD dependent. Looking more like a boom bust TD dependent low WR2/WR3 than a solid WR2 I was expecting.

The guy almost had a second 50 yard td.

Second most targets. Sure only 5. But he’s the WR2 on the team behind…. Diggs… who showed us all why.

And 5 targets in a game they pretty much dominated the whole way.

Relax.

Honestly, that was on Allen. Davis was open by 3 yards. If Allen put a little more mustard on that ball it’s a 50+ yard TD instead of a 44 yard catch.

I also saw that, my point is I thought he was going to elevate to NOT being TD dependent, but tonight's game hints that it may be more of the same as the last 2 years. Way too early at this stage, but I think the group think is the rising star WR2 on the powerful Bills offense will have a higher week to week floor. I still believe in Gabe and will let the next few weeks play out.

What is your definition of “not TD dependent”?

If Diggs didn’t catch his TD, he was only 7/9 for 79 yards.

Is he TD dependent too?

 

[lsufan]

You can't complain about anything really tonight. In my league he has 16.8pts. That is a solid first week. Diggs is obviously the main guy but this offense is good enough to support a #2 WR. Looks like Gabe is that guy. You may get a bad week here or there but over all you probably made a good choice where you got him.

 

[dmac37]

So do us Davis owners feel better or worse after game 1? I personally was hoping for more targets and not being TD dependent. Looking more like a boom bust TD dependent low WR2/WR3 than a solid WR2 I was expecting.

The guy almost had a second 50 yard td.

Second most targets. Sure only 5. But he’s the WR2 on the team behind…. Diggs… who showed us all why.

And 5 targets in a game they pretty much dominated the whole way.

Relax.

Honestly, that was on Allen. Davis was open by 3 yards. If Allen put a little more mustard on that ball it’s a 50+ yard TD instead of a 44 yard catch.

I also saw that, my point is I thought he was going to elevate to NOT being TD dependent, but tonight's game hints that it may be more of the same as the last 2 years. Way too early at this stage, but I think the group think is the rising star WR2 on the powerful Bills offense will have a higher week to week floor. I still believe in Gabe and will let the next few weeks play out.

What is your definition of “not TD dependent”?

Higher week to week floor. More targets, yards and receptions compared to the last 2 years. No panic here, would just like to see his overall game and usage expand this year and honestly believe it still will.

 

[ahartig]

4 turnovers!!!! Bills could have scored 3 or 4 more times. Rams offense was stagnant..... more targets and more TDs to come.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

4 turnovers!!!! Bills could have scored 3 or 4 more times. Rams offense was stagnant..... more targets and more TDs to come.

The RZ fumble was the worst. I was sure they were putting it in the end zone that drive. They had a ton of momentum.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Btw, on pace for:
68/1,496/17

Pretty sure that would be a pretty good season.

 

[Buckna]

I'm pretty happy, he had only 1 regular season game last year with more receiving yards than he had tonight. A good start and hopefully a sign of more to come.

 

[LawFitz]

Bills are gonna be a problem this year for NFL and fantasy opponents. Josh Allen looks to be a king maker.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

64 yards &1 TD this week.

Sorry I was so far off, I'll try harder next time.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Btw, on pace for:
68/1,496/17

Pretty sure that would be a pretty good season.

on pace for 85 targets

good luck with that

he had a good stat line and even though expert will tell you TDs are variable and not a sticky stat, there are some guys who got a knack for getting the ball in end zone

he's one of those guys

but there is one dog in Buffalo and his name is Stefon (339 targets in 34 games with Josh Allen)

they seem perfectly content to spread it around to Crowder and McKenzie and Knox and the RBs

Dawson Knox exceeded 2 targets fifteen times last year - last night was an anomaly

Five. Targets. Better hope those TD days never end.

 

[King of the Jungle]

With his hype and this games stats I will be putting out offers to see if I can move him for a profit in redraft. He will have more big games for sure, but production will be volatile with the amount of options Buffalo has on offense to go along with a strong defense to prevent shootouts.

 

[BobbyLayne]

With his hype and this games stats I will be putting out offers to see if I can move him for a profit in redraft. He will have more big games for sure, but production will be volatile with the amount of options Buffalo has on offense to go along with a strong defense to prevent shootouts.

Played 20 more snaps than Diggs and ran 8 more routes. Almost every time Diggs left the field it was Kumerow who came on, and a lot of those plays were runs. Still, Davis never left the field - the only snap he didn't take was the kneel down.

This was a below average matchup, he will have better games. And last night he looked really good.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Trying to extrapolate how many targets Davis will get each week based on one game seems like bad process.

Anyone that has major concerns about Davis after that game is probably way too neurotic to be playing this game.

Most WRs not drafted in the first two rounds (and even them really) will be somewhat TD dependent. Guess what? Scoring TDs is a big part of what is attractive about Davis. He’s a player that finds the end-zone paired with the best QB in the league. Calm down everyone and enjoy the ride.

 

[Timmay]

It is hilarious that some people on here are not happy with this production. He was always on the field, he was targeted often, he put up a solid line, scored 16.8 points in my league, and offense/QB looked great against what many think is a very solid defense.

I can't wait to see what he can do in the red zone passing situations that will present themselves throughout the season. I'm sure he is the #1 target when it comes to the 50/50 jump ball/fade routes.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Btw, on pace for:
68/1,496/17

Pretty sure that would be a pretty good season.

on pace for 85 targets

good luck with that

he had a good stat line and even though expert will tell you TDs are variable and not a sticky stat, there are some guys who got a knack for getting the ball in end zone

he's one of those guys

but there is one dog in Buffalo and his name is Stefon (339 targets in 34 games with Josh Allen)

they seem perfectly content to spread it around to Crowder and McKenzie and Knox and the RBs

Dawson Knox exceeded 2 targets fifteen times last year - last night was an anomaly

Five. Targets. Better hope those TD days never end.

Haters to the left…

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Trying to extrapolate how many targets Davis will get each week based on one game seems like bad process

My “on pace for” post was firmly tongue-in-cheek.

I’m surprised the Bills threw as much as they did last night. They didn’t have to to win.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

It is hilarious that some people on here are not happy with this production. He was always on the field, he was targeted often, he put up a solid line, scored 16.8 points in my league, and offense/QB looked great against what many think is a very solid defense.

I can't wait to see what he can do in the red zone passing situations that will present themselves throughout the season. I'm sure he is the #1 target when it comes to the 50/50 jump ball/fade routes.

He wasn't really targeted "often." He was targeted 5 times. That would extrapolate to 85 times this season. But it's also only 1 game, and he should get a ton of redzone and deep ball opportunities.

 

[LawFitz]

Bills running game is ok at best. Bodes well for lots and lots and lots of passes this year. Mid-round Allen-Davis stack, combined with some other early round hits is gonna win a lot of fantasy leagues this season.

 

[Deamon]

This was a below average matchup, he will have better games.

But it's also only 1 game,

It is hilarious that some people on here are not happy with this production

Ya, I don't know how you can not be happy with last night, if he did what he did last night, every game, he'd have an absolutely enormous season.

 

[BobbyLayne]

This was a below average matchup, he will have better games.

But it's also only 1 game,

It is hilarious that some people on here are not happy with this production

Ya, I don't know how you can not be happy with last night, if he did what he did last night, every game, he'd have an absolutely enormous season.

Literally the next line (you parsed out)

And last night he looked really good.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

This was a below average matchup, he will have better games.

But it's also only 1 game,

It is hilarious that some people on here are not happy with this production

Ya, I don't know how you can not be happy with last night, if he did what he did last night, every game, he'd have an absolutely enormous season.

If he has 5 targets per game, every game, he is unlikely to have an enormous season.

 

[crushedspirit]

It is hilarious that some people on here are not happy with this production. He was always on the field, he was targeted often, he put up a solid line, scored 16.8 points in my league, and offense/QB looked great against what many think is a very solid defense.

I can't wait to see what he can do in the red zone passing situations that will present themselves throughout the season. I'm sure he is the #1 target when it comes to the 50/50 jump ball/fade routes.

He wasn't really targeted "often." He was targeted 5 times. That would extrapolate to 85 times this season. But it's also only 1 game, and he should get a ton of redzone and deep ball opportunities.

That's assuming he only attempts 527 passes this season, (17x31), which we all know won't happen in the AFC.

Maybe it's safer to assume that even he only attempts 600 passes, and Davis is the recipient of 16% target share, (as per last night), then that's almost 100 targets on the season. Many of us who drafted him would be happy with that 100%.

I drafted him as a #2 with upside, and that's what he showed us all last night.

 

[Deamon]

If he has 5 targets per game, every game, he is unlikely to have an enormous season.

I mean, I guess. But if he has a td every game, he is likely to have an enormous season.
I'd be happy with last night's result in every game this year based on where I drafted him.

 

[massraider]

with the amount of options Buffalo has on offense

Do they?
I think it's the Diggs and Gabe Show up there.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

This was a below average matchup, he will have better games.

But it's also only 1 game,

It is hilarious that some people on here are not happy with this production

Ya, I don't know how you can not be happy with last night, if he did what he did last night, every game, he'd have an absolutely enormous season.

1496 yards & 17 tds are chicken feed man.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

If he has 5 targets per game, every game, he is unlikely to have an enormous season.

I mean, I guess. But if he has a td every game, he is likely to have an enormous season.
I'd be happy with last night's result in every game this year based on where I drafted him.

Very true! 17 TDs would be awesome!!!

 

[ShaneFalco]

Extrapolating 5 targets per game over the entire season is the same logic as extrapolating one TD every game. He’ll have more than 95 targets and less than 17 TDs.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Extrapolating 5 targets per game over the entire season is the same logic as extrapolating one TD every game. He’ll have more than 95 targets and less than 17 TDs.

How dare you be sensible on a Gabriel Davis topic?!

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Extrapolating 5 targets per game over the entire season is the same logic as extrapolating one TD every game. He’ll have more than 95 targets and less than 17 TDs.

How dare you be sensible on a Gabriel Davis topic?!

He must be new here. He's way too sensible.

 

[The Kerminator]

This was a below average matchup, he will have better games.

But it's also only 1 game,

It is hilarious that some people on here are not happy with this production

Ya, I don't know how you can not be happy with last night, if he did what he did last night, every game, he'd have an absolutely enormous season.

If he has 5 targets per game, every game, he is unlikely to have an enormous season.

If he does what he did last night on those 5 targets he'll have an enormous season

 

[TripItUp]

5 targets is definitely a reasonable argument that Davis is a good sell-high candidate.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

5 targets is definitely a reasonable argument that Davis is a good sell-high candidate.

Strongly disagree.

They barely needed to throw the ball, and he was one rare Josh Allen under-throw from a 50+ yard TD.

There will be more competitive games ahead with more targets for everyone on the Bills offense.

 

[TripItUp]

5 targets is definitely a reasonable argument that Davis is a good sell-high candidate.

Strongly disagree.

They barely needed to throw the ball, and he was one rare Josh Allen under-throw from a 50+ yard TD.

There will be more competitive games ahead with more targets for everyone on the Bills offense.

And there will be games where Davis disappears.

SELL HIGH

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

5 targets is definitely a reasonable argument that Davis is a good sell-high candidate.

Strongly disagree.

They barely needed to throw the ball, and he was one rare Josh Allen under-throw from a 50+ yard TD.

There will be more competitive games ahead with more targets for everyone on the Bills offense.

And there will be games where Davis disappears.

SELL HIGH

Only if you think 5 receptions is his ceiling and not his floor.

STRONG HOLD

 

[rockaction]

I don't think you can draw any conclusions from that game. They basically scored on what looked like a typical play for a TE. Fakes a block on the rollout, gets behind the defense, but he did have a play downfield and deep.

I would be hesitant to extrapolate anything concrete out of this game, negative or positive.

Too many victory/anti-victory laps too early about this guy, Robinson, and even Akers. Remember how CEH looked against Houston in his opener that year? Or how Darnold looked agains Houston in their opener last year?

Okay, forget Houston being the commonality there. It's the sample size and the matchup that I'm getting at, and I don't think you can make any sort of case either way for Davis given five targets last night but 88 yards and a touchdown, too.

 

[Deamon]

5 targets is definitely a reasonable argument that Davis is a good sell-high candidate.

Strongly disagree.

They barely needed to throw the ball, and he was one rare Josh Allen under-throw from a 50+ yard TD.

There will be more competitive games ahead with more targets for everyone on the Bills offense.

And there will be games where Davis disappears.

SELL HIGH

but...but.... The Upside!!!!

 

[TripItUp]

5 targets is definitely a reasonable argument that Davis is a good sell-high candidate.

Strongly disagree.

They barely needed to throw the ball, and he was one rare Josh Allen under-throw from a 50+ yard TD.

There will be more competitive games ahead with more targets for everyone on the Bills offense.

And there will be games where Davis disappears.

SELL HIGH

but...but.... The Upside!!!!

difficult to have upside with 5 targets a game

 

[candian fantasy guy]

Who the heck would be selling after that 1st game? Yeah 5 targets isn’t the greatest, but come on game script kept targets low. I very much prefer the snap % of this game. Clearly Gabe will be on the field and catching balls going forward.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

5 targets is definitely a reasonable argument that Davis is a good sell-high candidate.

Strongly disagree.

They barely needed to throw the ball, and he was one rare Josh Allen under-throw from a 50+ yard TD.

There will be more competitive games ahead with more targets for everyone on the Bills offense.

And there will be games where Davis disappears.

SELL HIGH

but...but.... The Upside!!!!

difficult to have upside with 5 targets a game

So he’ll only get 5 targets each and every week because targets are such a static stat?

I can’t believe that people can follow such faulty logic.

 

[FairWarning]

Who the heck would be selling after that 1st game? Yeah 5 targets isn’t the greatest, but come on game script kept targets low. I very much prefer the snap % of this game. Clearly Gabe will be on the field and catching balls going forward.

No kidding. Their offense is basically two WR1’s now. Few teams can defend against it. I would look at acquiring the RB in this offense as there could be a lot of garbage yards in blowout situations.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

So people acquired or drafted Davis thinking he has big play capabilities in the best offense in the league and then when Week 1 bears that out we should all run out and sell right away - because in this game he produced on only 5 targets.

This actually makes sense to some people and some that pass themselves off as “experts”?

What exactly would you be trading him for anyway?

 

[FairWarning]

So people acquired or drafted Davis thinking he has big play capabilities in the best offense in the league and then when Week 1 bears that out we should all run out and sell right away - because in this game he produced on only 5 targets.

This actually makes sense to some people and some that pass themselves off as “experts”?

What exactly would you be trading him for anyway?

It seems like the day trader mentality, always sell high and buy low. Doing that, you may have a roster full of Jets, jags, and bears at the end of the season.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Doing that, you may have a roster full of Jets, jags, and bears at the end of the season.

A fate worse than death.

 

[Boston]

5 targets is definitely a reasonable argument that Davis is a good sell-high candidate.

Strongly disagree.

They barely needed to throw the ball, and he was one rare Josh Allen under-throw from a 50+ yard TD.

There will be more competitive games ahead with more targets for everyone on the Bills offense.

And there will be games where Davis disappears.

SELL HIGH

but...but.... The Upside!!!!

difficult to have upside with 5 targets a game

So he’ll only get 5 targets each and every week because targets are such a static stat?

I can’t believe that people can follow such faulty logic.

Your second good reply in the last few days...the kid looked the part on Thursday, pretty easy to see that...as long as expectations are realistic (I would say solid #2, high-end #3 ...with potential to blow up any week is pretty safe) all will be good being a Davis Owner...one of my many pet peeves in fantasy is Owners who think anything other than a home-run like a Chase or Jefferson is not worth being on your team...that is unrealistic and quite frankly leads to bad roster construction.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

one of my many pet peeves in fantasy is Owners who think anything other than a home-run is not worth being on your team...that is unrealistic and quite frankly leads to bad roster construction.

At the same time it makes some of those dudes easier to acquire.

Always good to check with owners of guys like ARSB, Davis, Schultz, etc to see where their heads are at.

I’d say in that light Davis might be a buy right now. Someone like Trip out there disappointed in 5 targets might sell at a loss to get out from what they mistakenly think is a bust.

 

[Ilov80s]

He’s literally the overall WR3 in fantasy right now, but I guess people will always find something to complain about.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He’s literally the overall WR3 in fantasy right now, but I guess people will always find something to complain about.

Literally.