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WR Hakeem Butler, PIT (1 Viewer)
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I-ROK
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wlwiles
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Well not when you put it like that
Needed someone to tell it to me straight I guess. Gracias sir
Bracie Smathers
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I had my rookie draft yesterday and had to clear enough room to fit new draftees and cut him before the draft or the news of his release was made.
kutta
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I’m pretty sure you can sign players off other people’s practice squads. In no way is this a good thing.
It's a pretty bad thing. If they thought he had any worthwhile potential at all, they would have at least tried to stash him on there surely.
And when they do so, I’m pretty sure the team signing off of a practice squad has to do so to their 53 player active roster. In no way was that happening by any other NFL team sight unseen with no preseason games this year, IMO. This way at least he might get signed by a front office that was equally as into him last year, thinks he still has skills, and where there might at least be a better opportunity than there in in Zona.
ConnSKINS26
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Not claimed on a cheap rookie contract.
Was he signed to a PS?
Was he signed to a PS?
JohnnyU
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Talk about whiffing. They swung three times before the ball hit the catcher's mitt for a strikeout.
kutta
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Agreed. Besides their #1 pick the previous year.
It's weird to me how the same GM who picks Rosen at 1.01 in 2018, picks Butler in the fourth round in 2019, also engineers the Hopkins/DJ trade in 2020.
Ilov80s
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Dezbelief
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The WR version of Christine Michael. The physical attributes are all there. Hakeem's spider chart was unreal.
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Ilov80s
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Yep but one of the metrics that actually seems to matter (breakout age) was a big red flag. It's the old, "if you were such a freakish size-speed athlete, how come it took so long to do anything in college?"
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cloppbeast
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He was going in the first quite often, in my leagues he did. I honestly liked him before the draft but then soured when he fell. I'm not stubborn. Draft capital matters because if he had been taken in the top 32 he wouldn't have been cut..... yet.
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Ilov80s
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ConnSKINS26
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Glad to see he made a PS. Washington (perhaps the worst WR corps in the league) worked him out recently and signed a small XFL guy instead.
I don't know, maybe I'm being overoptimistic, but perhaps they saw something specific in him that they felt translated better to being a TE. Waller is obviously the best case, but its a tactic I think should be tried more often with bigger WR's, as the idea is very similar to when CB's move to S.
Its also possible the Eagles view Goedert as a bigger loss than Reagor(or D-Jax, though no clue how hurt he is) and feel TE is a bigger need with Alshon seemingly being close to returning.
Deamon
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renesauz
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This is an odd take. TE requires a bit more blocking, but it isn't like learning braille. It's still football, still offensive football, still running routes, and even WR's do SOME blocking. Some TE's are terrible blockers and good pass catchers...some are the opposite. There's no reason to think a translation has to take years...though it's probably unreasonable to expect it to be THIS year either
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Milkman
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Yeah you ain't blocking DE to much as a WR. Indy tried to convert that Swoopes kids. Never really worked. Basketball player though. Waller is the closest comp. It worked out well but took years. Only one example but where has it really worked and how long did it take? It won't be this year and I'd be surprised if it's next year. Rooting for him but at this point he won't be my stash.
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Unwrittenlaw
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A TE that is only 225 lbs will struggle to be successful. I can't recall any TEs at his size/weight and speed that are successful. Evan Engram is at like 245 and runs faster than Butler, that's why he is decent. Butler doesn't match up vs CBs anymore. He matches up against heavier LBs. Swoopes and Niles Paul were both over 240 lbs as TEs.
PS: Stop comparing him to Waller. Waller is an exception and he is 255 lbs.
Eagles moving him to TE is another way of saying he can't catch, he can't play the slot. So the only position there is for him is TE for 2-3 catches/game.
PS: Stop comparing him to Waller. Waller is an exception and he is 255 lbs.
Eagles moving him to TE is another way of saying he can't catch, he can't play the slot. So the only position there is for him is TE for 2-3 catches/game.
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Biabreakable
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Ilov80s
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Maybe he put on a lot of weight with his injury and a poor work ethic? That could explain being cut? It's bizarre.
rockaction
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Per Rotoworld.
rockaction
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Looks like the Eagles were not impressed with the effort on that play that went his way, either.
