WR Jahan Dotson, PHI (1 Viewer)

[Lansdowne]

Love the talent and would love him more for fantasy if his path to Commanders WR1 wasn’t blocked for the next three years by another young stud in McLaurin. But he is fun to watch.

there is a non zero chance he's better than Mclaurin.

McLaurin is so freaking good. And you may be right.

I agree with all of this.

 

[ffmail4me]

Washington has to outstanding WRs. I mean as good as any duo in the league. Sam is showing he belongs. This is a great offense to buy people.

 

[Insein]

Dotson was a monster in college. I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do when healthy with a real coach.

 

[Da Franchise]

Physical Olave for a discounted price…but that won’t last long.

 

[jm192]

Love the talent and would love him more for fantasy if his path to Commanders WR1 wasn’t blocked for the next three years by another young stud in McLaurin. But he is fun to watch.

Or if they finally found a QB good enough to support both. I like Howell, but not sure he’s that.

This has been my concern too. Don’t think Howell can support both to a level to make them both consistently good for Fantasy,

 

[Leroy's Aces]

Washington has to outstanding WRs. I mean as good as any duo in the league. Sam is showing he belongs. This is a great offense to buy people.

too, not to.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

too, not to.

You sure about that?

 

[(HULK)]

I agree with buying this offense, but full disclosure, I'm a homer.

I still do not understand how Dotson catches so many TDs. He's not big. He's fast but not remarkably or anything. Yet his TD rate was nuts last year and there he is in preseason game 1, catching another TD.

I tend to draft McLaren well ahead of Dotson because I keep expecting a change in variance to drive down his TD numbers. But, I'm wondering if I'm looking at it wrong.

 

[eighsse2]

I agree with buying this offense, but full disclosure, I'm a homer.

I still do not understand how Dotson catches so many TDs. He's not big. He's fast but not remarkably or anything. Yet his TD rate was nuts last year and there he is in preseason game 1, catching another TD.

I tend to draft McLaren well ahead of Dotson because I keep expecting a change in variance to drive down his TD numbers. But, I'm wondering if I'm looking at it wrong.

That's how I see it too. I drafted Dotson as a rookie, traded him for a draft pick before the season started, and traded back for him in the offseason. He's always winning the headlines for scoring TD's. But why does that keep happening, and will it continue?

 

[Da Franchise]

I agree with buying this offense, but full disclosure, I'm a homer.

I still do not understand how Dotson catches so many TDs. He's not big. He's fast but not remarkably or anything. Yet his TD rate was nuts last year and there he is in preseason game 1, catching another TD.

I tend to draft McLaren well ahead of Dotson because I keep expecting a change in variance to drive down his TD numbers. But, I'm wondering if I'm looking at it wrong.

It’s because he’s really good. He might actually be better than Terry which is nuts to say because Terry is a top 10ish WR in the league based on actual ability and nobody really gives him credit for it. Dotson is twitchy, sudden and explosive. Whether either guy gets enough volume with Howell to produce huge numbers is a different question altogether but Dotson is really good.

 

[(HULK)]

I agree with buying this offense, but full disclosure, I'm a homer.

I still do not understand how Dotson catches so many TDs. He's not big. He's fast but not remarkably or anything. Yet his TD rate was nuts last year and there he is in preseason game 1, catching another TD.

I tend to draft McLaren well ahead of Dotson because I keep expecting a change in variance to drive down his TD numbers. But, I'm wondering if I'm looking at it wrong.

It’s because he’s really good. He might actually be better than Terry which is nuts to say because Terry is a top 10ish WR in the league based on actual ability and nobody really gives him credit for it. Dotson is twitchy, sudden and explosive. Whether either guy gets enough volume with Howell to produce huge numbers is a different question altogether but Dotson is really good.

People tend to overlook Terry because his catch mechanics are ugly and nonstandard. But I feel like he's proven himself anyways, despite his differences in his he catches a ball.

 

[Ilov80s]

I agree with buying this offense, but full disclosure, I'm a homer.

I still do not understand how Dotson catches so many TDs. He's not big. He's fast but not remarkably or anything. Yet his TD rate was nuts last year and there he is in preseason game 1, catching another TD.

I tend to draft McLaren well ahead of Dotson because I keep expecting a change in variance to drive down his TD numbers. But, I'm wondering if I'm looking at it wrong.

It’s because he’s really good. He might actually be better than Terry which is nuts to say because Terry is a top 10ish WR in the league based on actual ability and nobody really gives him credit for it. Dotson is twitchy, sudden and explosive. Whether either guy gets enough volume with Howell to produce huge numbers is a different question altogether but Dotson is really good.

People tend to overlook Terry because his catch mechanics are ugly and nonstandard. But I feel like he's proven himself anyways, despite his differences in his he catches a ball.

Proven himself as a good downfield WR. Not sure he’s proven himself as a TD scorer or fantasy stud yet. I get how that might not be his fault but also it could be.

 

[Da Franchise]

I agree with buying this offense, but full disclosure, I'm a homer.

I still do not understand how Dotson catches so many TDs. He's not big. He's fast but not remarkably or anything. Yet his TD rate was nuts last year and there he is in preseason game 1, catching another TD.

I tend to draft McLaren well ahead of Dotson because I keep expecting a change in variance to drive down his TD numbers. But, I'm wondering if I'm looking at it wrong.

It’s because he’s really good. He might actually be better than Terry which is nuts to say because Terry is a top 10ish WR in the league based on actual ability and nobody really gives him credit for it. Dotson is twitchy, sudden and explosive. Whether either guy gets enough volume with Howell to produce huge numbers is a different question altogether but Dotson is really good.

People tend to overlook Terry because his catch mechanics are ugly and nonstandard. But I feel like he's proven himself anyways, despite his differences in his he catches a ball.

Proven himself as a good downfield WR. Not sure he’s proven himself as a TD scorer or fantasy stud yet. I get how that might not be his fault but also it could be.

I get how there can be question marks from an outside perspective on Terry. I’m local, rarely get hyped for a Wash player, but he’s the same thing as Stef Diggs. If they got traded for each other tomorrow I absolutely believe their stats are getting traded also.

Terry is a legit baller who’s been held back statistically by subhuman ownership nonsense, unimaginative coaching, and bottom 8 quarterback play. There’s a chance all three of these change this year with Harris, Bienemy, and Howell but Terry is 28 in September and running out of time to have the stars align for production to spike. Dotson however is only 23 and might actually be better anyway. He could definitely have some spike seasons down the road as this franchise starts from scratch.

 

[Tanner9919]

Dotson is better. I like McLovin, but this QB loves looking for Dotson over and over. last night the prime example, BEFORE the McLovin injury. not sure what everyone else was watching but I saw the Ravens/Commanders, and Dotson dominated 5-76 in 1/2 of football. kid is going to easily catch 70-90 balls. talent wins out, this kid is >> McLovin.
he's going to be one of crop of young WRs in the top 20 along with London, Watson, Wilson

 

[The Frankman]

I got him 4.12 (#60th) in a 16 team Standard league w/ Double Flex (WR/TE and WR/RB/TE) as my 2nd WR. My board was Christian Watson/him/Aiyuk and Watson was gone so I took Dotson; I may have taken him over Watson anyway. The man is so explosive he might be the best WR on the team, and now with McLaurin hobbled a bit he's got a legit shot to put up big numbers. He plays bigger than his size and wins down the field, and now has an innovative OC and a QB who likes to push the ball down the field. I think he definitely can finish as a Top 20 WR in fantasy.

 

[zoonation]

Steal of the draft talk starts after this Sunday. Going to put up monster numbers.

9-145-2

 

[ffmail4me]

Steal of the draft talk starts after this Sunday. Going to put up monster numbers.

9-145-2

I quoted in the Olave thread (who I also love) that I think Dotson is every bit as good as Olave...in fact, by trading down and giving the Saints our pick (and they took Olave) we ended up netting Dotson, Brian Robinson, Howell, and Turner. That's an amazing haul!

 

[zoonation]

Fbg rankings for this week have Dotson at 33. Lmao.

 

[ffmail4me]

Fbg rankings for this week have Dotson at 33. Lmao.

Maybe they think Carson Wentz is still his QB?

 

[zamboni]

Fbg rankings for this week have Dotson at 33. Lmao.

Maybe they think Carson Wentz is still his QB?

I do think that's a related part of it - the uncertainty of Howell. If Sam is anywhere near as accurate and in control as he was in pre-season, that Dotson ranking will jump quickly.

 

[Chaka]

Fbg rankings for this week have Dotson at 33. Lmao.

Maybe they think Carson Wentz is still his QB?

I do think that's a related part of it - the uncertainty of Howell. If Sam is anywhere near as accurate and in control as he was in pre-season, that Dotson ranking will jump quickly.

I think it's also the opponent. The Commanders may be planning for a heavy dose of Robinson & Gibson.

 

[zamboni]

Fbg rankings for this week have Dotson at 33. Lmao.

Maybe they think Carson Wentz is still his QB?

I do think that's a related part of it - the uncertainty of Howell. If Sam is anywhere near as accurate and in control as he was in pre-season, that Dotson ranking will jump quickly.

I think it's also the opponent. The Commanders may be planning for a heavy dose of Robinson & Gibson.

Could be. Playing the game script game often backfires though - I tend to just go with talent, but that's me.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Fbg rankings for this week have Dotson at 33. Lmao.

Love Dotson but can understand it for this week because they play the Cardinals.

I can see the mindset it'll be a lot of Robinson and perhaps Gibson as well given opponent. Nice of the NFL to give the Commanders a 5th preseason game.

 

[Chaka]

Fbg rankings for this week have Dotson at 33. Lmao.

Maybe they think Carson Wentz is still his QB?

I do think that's a related part of it - the uncertainty of Howell. If Sam is anywhere near as accurate and in control as he was in pre-season, that Dotson ranking will jump quickly.

I think it's also the opponent. The Commanders may be planning for a heavy dose of Robinson & Gibson.

Could be. Playing the game script game often backfires though - I tend to just go with talent, but that's me.

I absolutely agree, just suggesting it may influence the ranking.

People often overlook that if you're running out the clock in the 4th quarter its because you did something good in Qs 1-3.

He's in my lineup this week over Swift.

 

[zoonation]

He’ll beat WR33 by halftime.

 

[smbkrypt24]

I got him at 7.2 in a 16 team redraft. Really appreciate podcasts and this thread for putting him on my radar in that range.

 

[NajehHejan]

I drafted DJ Moore as my WR2 but due to QB concerns (in case Fields doesn’t put it together as a passer) I also took Dotson and Pickens as WR2 insurance. I typically hate having similar wideouts as it makes weekly lineup decisions a nightmare but now I’m seriously considering playing Dotson over Moore week 1. Am I crazy?

 

[gucci little piggy]

I drafted DJ Moore as my WR2 but due to QB concerns (in case Fields doesn’t put it together as a passer) I also took Dotson and Pickens as WR2 insurance. I typically hate having similar wideouts as it makes weekly lineup decisions a nightmare but now I’m seriously considering playing Dotson over Moore week 1. Am I crazy?

I have the same decision to make, and currently plan to start Dotson. So, yes, you're probably crazy if you think like me.

 

[ffmail4me]

I drafted DJ Moore as my WR2 but due to QB concerns (in case Fields doesn’t put it together as a passer) I also took Dotson and Pickens as WR2 insurance. I typically hate having similar wideouts as it makes weekly lineup decisions a nightmare but now I’m seriously considering playing Dotson over Moore week 1. Am I crazy?

Nope and I love your WR core, I think Dotson and Pickens (along with London and Olave) will all have breakout seasons.

 

[kutta]

I drafted DJ Moore as my WR2 but due to QB concerns (in case Fields doesn’t put it together as a passer) I also took Dotson and Pickens as WR2 insurance. I typically hate having similar wideouts as it makes weekly lineup decisions a nightmare but now I’m seriously considering playing Dotson over Moore week 1. Am I crazy?

I'm not much of a Moore fan so it's a pretty easy call for me. I'm all about Dotson against the Cardinals this week.

 

[barackdhouse]

Guess I'll check out his thread but any update on McLaurin?

 

[Chaka]

Looking back, I moved early on Dotson and Howell (12 team, SF league).

I took Dotson at 6.12 and he was the 26th WR off the board.

I left Diontae Johnson, DJ Moore, Tyler Lockett and McLaurin (who was pretty much a DnD for me) on the board. I only really regret leaving Diontae because it looks like Dotson would have been available at 8.12.

Even at the time I knew I was reaching but 1) I 100% believe Dotson can vastly outperform WR26 & 2) this is a fun hobby and I really wanted Dotson & Howell this year so I made sure to get them.

 

[zoonation]

I drafted DJ Moore as my WR2 but due to QB concerns (in case Fields doesn’t put it together as a passer) I also took Dotson and Pickens as WR2 insurance. I typically hate having similar wideouts as it makes weekly lineup decisions a nightmare but now I’m seriously considering playing Dotson over Moore week 1. Am I crazy?

Start with supreme confidence IMO

 

[The Frankman]

I drafted DJ Moore as my WR2 but due to QB concerns (in case Fields doesn’t put it together as a passer) I also took Dotson and Pickens as WR2 insurance. I typically hate having similar wideouts as it makes weekly lineup decisions a nightmare but now I’m seriously considering playing Dotson over Moore week 1. Am I crazy?

Dotson has a much bigger route tree and is a better route runner/separator. I have Dotson as my WR2 and Pickens my WR3.

 

[DocHolliday]

I drafted DJ Moore as my WR2 but due to QB concerns (in case Fields doesn’t put it together as a passer) I also took Dotson and Pickens as WR2 insurance. I typically hate having similar wideouts as it makes weekly lineup decisions a nightmare but now I’m seriously considering playing Dotson over Moore week 1. Am I crazy?

Nope and I love your WR core, I think Dotson and Pickens (along with London and Olave) will all have breakout seasons.

Man, I hope you are correct since I have Olive, London, and Dotson.

 

[gucci little piggy]

Anyone else a lot less confident in Dotson this week now that Scary Terry is supposedly healthy and playing? I have DJ Moore back in my lineup over Dotson. I still think it's possible that Dotson has a big game, but it just seems a bit shakier now. I'd still feel good starting Dotson if I didn't have another solid option in Moore.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Anyone else a lot less confident in Dotson this week now that Scary Terry is supposedly healthy and playing? I have DJ Moore back in my lineup over Dotson. I still think it's possible that Dotson has a big game, but it just seems a bit shakier now. I'd still feel good starting Dotson if I didn't have another solid option in Moore.

I was confident in Dotson when I drafted him and TMc was not injured and thought to catch quite a few balls.

35/500+/7TDs in about 10 games a rookie, RELAX!
Camp reports were glowing
Has a limited ceiling QB but his skills have been on full display.

Every team and league is different, wouldn't get too worked up
Arizona pretty soft team

 

[gucci little piggy]

Anyone else a lot less confident in Dotson this week now that Scary Terry is supposedly healthy and playing? I have DJ Moore back in my lineup over Dotson. I still think it's possible that Dotson has a big game, but it just seems a bit shakier now. I'd still feel good starting Dotson if I didn't have another solid option in Moore.

I was confident in Dotson when I drafted him and TMc was not injured and thought to catch quite a few balls.

35/500+/7TDs in about 10 games a rookie, RELAX!
Camp reports were glowing
Has a limited ceiling QB but his skills have been on full display.

Every team and league is different, wouldn't get too worked up
Arizona pretty soft team

Oh yeah, I totally agree with you. I guess I just went from viewing him as having a good chance for a monster game this week to now just merely being good. Still have high hopes for him all season.

 

[Chaka]

Not worried about McLaurin this week. They called up Crowder from the PS and it's a game they should win. They shouldn't need to over use him. I think McLaurin has a limited role, possibly a decoy.

 

[Da Franchise]

Anyone else a lot less confident in Dotson this week now that Scary Terry is supposedly healthy and playing? I have DJ Moore back in my lineup over Dotson. I still think it's possible that Dotson has a big game, but it just seems a bit shakier now. I'd still feel good starting Dotson if I didn't have another solid option in Moore.

Local Skins fan here. Starting him in 5 leagues with absolute confidence.

Best NFL duos:

Tyreek/Waddle
AJB/DeVonta
McLaurin/Dotson (and these two might swap places this season)

 

[ratbast]

There’s a ton to like about this Wash team. The oline is not one of those things. That’s the main hesitation with their passing game.

 

[crushedspirit]

Starting Dotson in flex over DJ and Drake.

DK and Olave are my starters.

 

[Ilov80s]

Anyone else a lot less confident in Dotson this week now that Scary Terry is supposedly healthy and playing? I have DJ Moore back in my lineup over Dotson. I still think it's possible that Dotson has a big game, but it just seems a bit shakier now. I'd still feel good starting Dotson if I didn't have another solid option in Moore.

Local Skins fan here. Starting him in 5 leagues with absolute confidence.

Best NFL duos:

Tyreek/Waddle
AJB/DeVonta
McLaurin/Dotson (and these two might swap places this season)

Seems to be selling Chase/Higgins and DK/Lockett a little short

 

[foxco]

Best NFL duos:

Tyreek/Waddle
AJB/DeVonta
McLaurin/Dotson (and these two might swap places this season)

Ploy to motivate Chase/Higgins?

 

[Da Franchise]

There’s a ton to like about this Wash team. The oline is not one of those things. That’s the main hesitation with their passing game.

No doubt, the oline stinks. The good news is it’s not much worse than it was last year and the offense was able to support both players for fantasy with inferior QB play and coaching. I’m betting Bienemy and Howell raise the ceiling a good bit.

 

[Da Franchise]

Haha my bad. Forgot about Chase/Higgins. I did not forget Metcalf/Lockett.

 

[The Frankman]

Jahan Dotson caught 5-of-7 targets for 40 yards in the Commanders’ Week 1 win over the Cardinals.

Dotson led the Commanders’ receiver corps in targets, though Logan Thomas led the entire team with eight. It wasn’t a particularly great day for any Washington pass catcher, as Sam Howell had trouble getting into rhythm. His pocket presence left something to be desired. Dotson is going to have some blow-up games in 2023, but the Howell situation is tenuous enough that Dotston is still best treated as a WR4 rather than WR3.
- Rotoworld

 

[Chaka]

Well, that sucked.

Loved what I saw from Howell but this is looking like an offense predicated on distributing the ball.

Hard to buy into a breakout season ATM.

 

[Drake Hater]

Jag type season so far. Not impressed.

 

[Smack Tripper]

My biggest miss so far, reached for him in drafts but too much stock in preseason... I do still like the talent and ability but I dont think this is the year