WR Jameson Williams, DET (2 Viewers)

[Chaka]

JAMO GAME WINNING TD PLEASE!

Update?

I didn't predict it, I wished for it. You've already beat me in our matchup.

Just joking around.

 

[Chaka]

11 targets, 5 for 79 with one rush for 15.

And a very bad no-call when he was blatantly interfered with on Goff's first INT.

 

[Kiddnets]

11 targets, 5 for 79 with one rush for 15.

And a very bad no-call when he was blatantly interfered with on Goff's first INT.

legit part of a great O - solid #2 WR now IMO

 

[Uncle Leo]

I wanted him, but not bad enough I guess. Went one pick ahead of me. I was too busy basking in the glory of getting Hollywood Brown to stack my Mahomes pick earlier. Live and learn, right?

 

[jon_mx]

11 targets, 5 for 79 with one rush for 15.

And a very bad no-call when he was blatantly interfered with on Goff's first INT.

Goff has not been sharp this season.

 

[Deamon]

You're not hearing me. What I'm saying is that even if Goff and all DET QBs only have 200 total attempts (I know that is absurdly low), any kind of boost in share from Jamo MUST come from LaPorta. That is the premise I'm trying to put out there to be challenged. Nobody has countered it yet. I've repeatedly said even if the pie is smaller.

Good call.

 

[Deamon]

I think it's fair to wonder if ASRB and LaPorta might not be able to reach upside with Gibbs and Jameson there.

Yep

 

[Chaka]

I think it's fair to wonder if ASRB and LaPorta might not be able to reach upside with Gibbs and Jameson there.

Yep

ARSB went 11-119 and 19 targets.

Lions offense is struggling, my money says they'll turn it around.

 

[Deamon]

I think it's fair to wonder if ASRB and LaPorta might not be able to reach upside with Gibbs and Jameson there.

Yep

ARSB went 11-119 and 19 targets.

Lions offense is struggling, my money says they'll turn it around.

I agree.

I'm talking just about Laporta. The people in here saying that if Jamo has a great year, that those targets will be taken away from Laporta, were right. Laporta has been very underwhelming.

 

[ilianawindfae]

He did great. He's an ascending talent. He's in the gameplay. You can't stop both him and Amon St Brown.


I don't care much that they lost. If they rematch later in the year, Lions will beat them.


The end arounds are a plus as well. He's only going to get better. As a dynasty owner this feels tremendous. He did nothing for so long and suddenly he's a WR2 with upside? Good stuff.

 

[jon_mx]

WR#50 quietly leads the NFL in recieving yards.

10-200-1

With another 2-32 rushing.

 

[TampaMike19]

The fact that he’s doing well and the Lions are losing…not sure how much correlation there is but perhaps opposing teams want the Lions to feed the guy instead of the easy buttons ARSB and LaPorta. And it’s kinda working.

 

[jon_mx]

The fact that he’s doing well and the Lions are losing…not sure how much correlation there is but perhaps opposing teams want the Lions to feed the guy instead of the easy buttons ARSB and LaPorta. And it’s kinda working.

By losing you mean the Lions are 1-1 agsinst two playoff teams. The Lions put up 462 yards and were in the red zone 7 times. The Lions won when Jamo was the primary target and lost when ARSB was the primary target. The Bucs have good defense, but teams can not count on the Lions having historically bad red zone execution.

The Lions have five weapons who can beat you. The Lions need to find the appropriate balance and Goff needs to execute better. It is a matter of the Lions establishing the run to help Goff be more effective using play action. The magic formula for beating the Lions is to take the play action away from Goff where he is at his best.

 

[travdogg]

The fact that he’s doing well and the Lions are losing…not sure how much correlation there is but perhaps opposing teams want the Lions to feed the guy instead of the easy buttons ARSB and LaPorta. And it’s kinda working.

By losing you mean the Lions are 1-1 agsinst two playoff teams. The Lions put up 462 yards and were in the red zone 7 times. The Lions won when Jamo was the primary target and lost when ARSB was the primary target. The Bucs have good defense, but teams can not count on the Lions having historically bad red zone execution.

The Lions have five weapons who can beat you. The Lions need to find the appropriate balance and Goff needs to execute better. It is a matter of the Lions establishing the run to help Goff be more effective using play action. The magic formula for beating the Lions is to take the play action away from Goff where he is at his best.

I wanna see what happens when they make LaPorta the main target. You know, for science!

 

[jon_mx]

Jameson Williams OPOY odds:

Week 0: +40000
Week 1: +25000
Week 2: +18000

 

[TampaMike19]

The fact that he’s doing well and the Lions are losing…not sure how much correlation there is but perhaps opposing teams want the Lions to feed the guy instead of the easy buttons ARSB and LaPorta. And it’s kinda working.

By losing you mean the Lions are 1-1 agsinst two playoff teams. The Lions put up 462 yards and were in the red zone 7 times. The Lions won when Jamo was the primary target and lost when ARSB was the primary target. The Bucs have good defense, but teams can not count on the Lions having historically bad red zone execution.

The Lions have five weapons who can beat you. The Lions need to find the appropriate balance and Goff needs to execute better. It is a matter of the Lions establishing the run to help Goff be more effective using play action. The magic formula for beating the Lions is to take the play action away from Goff where he is at his best.

The Lions opened the season with two home games. Fans jacked up…playing against Stafford, and a playoff rematch. It’s a nice home field advantage, perhaps 3.5 to 4 points (can’t quantify.)

The Rams just got the **** kicked out of them by the Cardinals, so, no, they probably aren’t that good. The Bucs seem pretty damn good.

The Lions also won because they got a 50 yard TD out of Jamo. Sure, that really helps. But Goff was 17-27 1 INT and 167 yards aside from that. Not great.

Who knows what the winning formula is? If teams were so afraid of Jamo, ARSB and LaPorta would be going off for 15-20 yard chunk plays all the time and…they just aren’t. Amon-ra caught just under 60% of his targets (11 receptions on 19 targets) for only 119 yards. That’s awful. No wonder he got the **** kicked out of him.

LaPorta and Amon-Ra are career 10 to 12 YPR players…so yeah. Maybe getting deep shots to Jamo would help open this up…or maybe the team has redundant skill sets.

 

[in2win]

League winner

 

[jon_mx]

It is always fun when someone here throws out something like 'there is a zero chance player X finishes below WR50'. Never mind said player has never finished above WR50... good times.

I think anyone can look at the draft pedigree, talent and Lions offense and see the upside for a better than the average expected WR finish here. But there are a lot of mouths to feed in Detroit who are clearly ahead of Jameson in the pecking order before he would sniff some of the ridiculousness that has been projected here. Not to mention he has done very little in the consistency department to warrant such guarantees. Oh... and he is high floor on top of it? I almost spit out my drink on that one.

If he truly figures out how to be a professional (and I don't mean the offseason puff pieces on how the light has come on), I like the upside as well. But if you look really closely at his career to this point... the reality is, he is likely closer to being out of a job in Detroit than a top 20 WR finish.

I'd stick closer to Bobby Layne on this one... he actually puts in the work to justify his projections. Right or wrong, I respect the time and effort he puts into what he puts out there.

This post got 8 likes and I about feel like I need to apologize for underestimating Jamo.

 

[barackdhouse]

Seems like he is taking away from LaPorta. Like I said 100 times. I do still expect that to change from week to week but LaPorta should not have been getting drafted as high as he was. Jameson was always going to eat into that.

 

[jon_mx]

Seems like he is taking away from LaPorta. Like I said 100 times. I do still expect that to change from week to week but LaPorta should not have been getting drafted as high as he was. Jameson was always going to eat into that.

LaPorta will get his. Despite the slow start LaPorta will still be an 80-800-8 guy. Once this offense gets rolling, it will feed all five of these guys, just not any 1500 yard guys. I would be a buyer of LaPorta.

 

[Chaka]

The fact that he’s doing well and the Lions are losing…not sure how much correlation there is but perhaps opposing teams want the Lions to feed the guy instead of the easy buttons ARSB and LaPorta. And it’s kinda working.

No way you're serious with this one but, and I mean this sincerely, I love how well crafted the response is. Just enough of a tinge of truth to make people think you're serious. Honestly it's a masterclass.

Well done.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Jameson Williams OPOY odds:

Week 0: +40000
Week 1: +25000
Week 2: +18000

I’ll book that for you if you want. Save the juice

 

[Long Ball Larry]

WR#50 quietly leads the NFL in recieving yards.

10-200-1

With another 2-32 rushing.

Nico Collins would like a word with you

 

[jon_mx]

WR#50 quietly leads the NFL in recieving yards.

10-200-1

With another 2-32 rushing.

Nico Collins would like a word with you

That was before Sunday night's results. There is also tonight's game.

 

[Chaka]

WR#50 quietly leads the NFL in recieving yards.

10-200-1

With another 2-32 rushing.

Nico Collins would like a word with you

Because?

 

[Deamon]

WR#50 quietly leads the NFL in recieving yards.

10-200-1

With another 2-32 rushing.

Nico Collins would like a word with you

Because?

Because Nico Collins is leading the NFL in receiving yards.

 

[Chaka]

WR#50 quietly leads the NFL in recieving yards.

10-200-1

With another 2-32 rushing.

Nico Collins would like a word with you

Because?

Because Nico Collins is leading the NFL in receiving yards.

Gotcha. So, is Jameson second?

Honestly not paying attention because we're at the point in the season where I find these stats terribly valuable.

 

[Deamon]

WR#50 quietly leads the NFL in recieving yards.

10-200-1

With another 2-32 rushing.

Nico Collins would like a word with you

Because?

Because Nico Collins is leading the NFL in receiving yards.

Gotcha. So, is Jameson second?

Honestly not paying attention because we're at the point in the season where I find these stats terribly valuable.

Yes tied for 2nd with godwin at 200.

 

[Chaka]

WR#50 quietly leads the NFL in recieving yards.

10-200-1

With another 2-32 rushing.

Nico Collins would like a word with you

Because?

Because Nico Collins is leading the NFL in receiving yards.

Gotcha. So, is Jameson second?

Honestly not paying attention because we're at the point in the season where I find these stats terribly valuable.

Yes tied for 2nd with godwin at 200.

Thanks, as the final arbiter of nothing of consequence I am ruling in favor of @jon_mx on the principle of "Close Enough"

 

[rockaction]

WR#50 quietly leads the NFL in recieving yards.

10-200-1

With another 2-32 rushing.

Nico Collins would like a word with you

Because?

Because he's leading Jameson by fifty-two yards?

 

[Chaka]

WR#50 quietly leads the NFL in recieving yards.

10-200-1

With another 2-32 rushing.

Nico Collins would like a word with you

Because?

Because he's leading Jameson by fifty-two yards?

Does not change my ruling above.

 

[Chaka]

Let's be fair, after two weeks he's a top 10 WR (#8 & #7 in my two PPR leagues).

It's way too early to eat crow but I isn't too early to consider, just consider, we all (by that I mean you all) may have made a mistake.

 

[Deamon]

It's way too early to eat crow but I isn't too early to consider, just consider, we all (by that I mean you all) may have made a mistake.

Hey, leave me out of this. I own him in 9 of my 10 redrafts, and 123 of my 161 Best balls.

 

[Chaka]

It's way too early to eat crow but I isn't too early to consider, just consider, we all (by that I mean you all) may have made a mistake.

Hey, leave me out of this. I own him in 9 of my 10 redrafts, and 123 of my 161 Best balls.

Apologies, I know you've been onboard. However, never speak to me about Jameson.

You know what you did.

Unless you're open to trading him, then I'm all ears.

Seriously, let's make a deal.

 

[kutta]

Let's be fair, after two weeks he's a top 10 WR (#8 & #7 in my two PPR leagues).

It's way too early to eat crow but I isn't too early to consider, just consider, we all (by that I mean you all) may have made a mistake.

And not too early for me to start figuring out how to pay off my $100 bet…

 

[The Gator]

It's way too early to eat crow but I isn't too early to consider, just consider, we all (by that I mean you all) may have made a mistake.

Hey, leave me out of this. I own him in 9 of my 10 redrafts, and 123 of my 161 Best balls.

 

[The Gator]

Let's be fair, after two weeks he's a top 10 WR (#8 & #7 in my two PPR leagues).

So is Alec Pierce...

 

[Chaka]

Let's be fair, after two weeks he's a top 10 WR (#8 & #7 in my two PPR leagues).

So is Alec Pierce...

Okay. And so is Jameson.

Want to lay odds on which one is more likely to sustain it?

 

[jon_mx]

Jameson Williams OPOY odds:

Week 0: +40000
Week 1: +25000
Week 2: +18000

I’ll book that for you if you want. Save the juice

oh I locked in a nice chunk at +40000. I could cash out for profit at this point. I don't expect that to pay out. But I do expect my +1600 on Hutch will which dropped to +470

 

[Ministry of Pain]

20 targets including 11 on a week he was listed as questionable on the IR leading up to the game
The downside is only 5 catches on those 11 targets and the Lions end up losing 20-16 to the Bucs

i have him in several leagues, I'm as impressed with the number of targets as I am anything else, he is part of the game plan weekly so far.
They might be in a shootout next week in the desert, keep putting him in your starting line up

 

[rockaction]

It's way too early to eat crow but I isn't too early to consider, just consider, we all (by that I mean you all) may have made a mistake.

I tried trading for him. Twice. I do not think I was making a mistake doing so.

 

[rockaction]

I smile as I say that and wonder why I didn’t offer more or ask for less.

 

[jon_mx]

Jamo's ranking for week 3:

Fantasy Pros. WR#17

NBC. WR#18

ESPN WR#21

Did not take long to get much closer. Way better than the WR#50 where he started.

 

[BassNBrew]

Just offered him to the Breece Hall owner.

 

[eighsse2]

Jamo's ranking for week 3:

Fantasy Pros. WR#17

NBC. WR#18

ESPN WR#21

Did not take long to get much closer. Way better than the WR#50 where he started.

Wow! Me and jon_mx, we were right all along!

(Shut up, just go with it!)

Seriously though ... great call, jon

 

[Dez]

I drafted him at 1.05 in my rookie draft 2 years ago and traded him away a week ago so expect the blow up to happen.

Did I call it or what ?

 

[DeaLerZ]

I drafted him at 1.05 in my rookie draft 2 years ago and traded him away a week ago so expect the blow up to happen.

Did I call it or what ?

This is my fantasy football life. Always a year or two early on everyone. The worst one was Antonio Brown back in the day before he blew up and dropping him. While they are on my roster they get injured or drop TD passes, and I lose by less than 6pts every week because I start the wrong guy lol.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Just offered him to the Breece Hall owner.

I own Hall and Williams in different leagues. Personally, I would not do that as a Hall owner

 

[BassNBrew]

Just offered him to the Breece Hall owner.

I own Hall and Williams in different leagues. Personally, I would not do that as a Hall owner

I wouldn't either, we'll see if there is a counter. Guy is loaded at RB in a start one league and barren at WR.

 

[Chaka]

Just offered him to the Breece Hall owner.

For free? That's mighty generous of you.