WR Jameson Williams, DET (6 Viewers)

[Deamon]

My two big home leagues drafted this weekend. I took him as my WR5 at 12.09 in one and in my auction I got him for $5 out of a $200 budget as my WR8 (I guess)

That auction I ended up with Metcalf 39, Flowers 12, Dell 12, McLaurin 6, B Thomas 5, Jameson 5, Doubs 2 and Puka as my keeper for 10 (we get one per year)

Why did you take him at 7.06 in one league, and not until 12.09 in another? I understand he gets a boost in best ball, but this seems like a lot.

 

[Deamon]

We lost two members of my 25-year-old league this year and we're down to 10 teams. It's superflex 16 round draft and it's so weird because 32 fewer players were selected and I am not used to seeing so much talent sitting on the waiver wire, including Jameson Williams. It's driving me nuts.

This is confusing though...

He's got to still be in the top 160 players even in SF.

With a 16 Round Draft, I would expect that everyone would at least have 4-5 WRs.... How many WR's were taken in the draft?

We combine the WR & TE positions as well.

56 total WR/TEs were drafted.

My receivers are:
CeeDee
Rashee
Nabers
Jayden Reed
McLaurin

Who would you drop for Williams?

I only carry one K and one Team Defense.

The only possible drop IMO is my #3 QB, Russel Wilson. He is effectively dead weight because Goff & Love are my starters but I hate, hate, hate not having a third QB rostered in SF formats.

Hmmm, that's tough. How many of those 56 are tight ends?

Travis Kelce
Sam LaPorta
Mark Andrews
Trey McBride
Evan Engram
George Kittle
Kyle Pitts

Dalton Kincaid was also undrafted, as was Diontae Johnson, although Adam Thielen was drafted. It's definitely not a Shark Pool league.

By the time I saw value in drafting Jameson it was round 14 and I only had one position player slot left open (rounds 15 & 16 I needed a K and a D). I figure you go for big upside guys in that spot and I opted for Jordan Mason who I consider a potential league winner over Jameson who I think can maybe turn into a mid WR2 this season.

Damn, that's wild.

So Jamo would be WR50 if he was picked up today. That's ridiculous value like you mentioned a few pages back... but yeah, it seems like you might be stacked and not have room for him, where as he would be a huge addition to many of the other teams who likely carried a couple defenses on their teams.

 

[BobbyLayne]

According to this thread I should probably try to move Jayden Reed for him (PPR redraft.)

If that doesn’t work, maybe for Tank Dell?

We’re that confident, right guys?

 

[Deamon]

According to this thread I should probably try to move Jayden Reed for him (PPR redraft.)

If that doesn’t work, maybe for Tank Dell?

We’re that confident, right guys?

only 1 person is.

 

[Chaka]

According to this thread I should probably try to move Jayden Reed for him (PPR redraft.)

If that doesn’t work, maybe for Tank Dell?

We’re that confident, right guys?

I have 100% confidence in that decision for your team.

ETA: You know that's a joke, right?

 

[BobbyLayne]

According to this thread I should probably try to move Jayden Reed for him (PPR redraft.)

If that doesn’t work, maybe for Tank Dell?

We’re that confident, right guys?

I have 100% confidence in that decision for your team.

What if were your team?

I’m listening to Dan Campbell’s press conference live rn.

I’ll be ready to trade London for him in another 15 minutes.

 

[Chaka]

According to this thread I should probably try to move Jayden Reed for him (PPR redraft.)

If that doesn’t work, maybe for Tank Dell?

We’re that confident, right guys?

I have 100% confidence in that decision for your team.

What if were your team?

I’m listening to Dan Campbell’s press conference live rn.

I’ll be ready to trade London for him in another 15 minutes.

I was joking, right now I keep Reed.

To be fair Jayden Reed is in a position where it's possible there simply aren't enough balls to go around limiting him to another 800 yard season. He seemed like their best WR in the second half of the season but the entire receiving corps is made up of 2nd & 3rd year players, we don't really know who can make a jump to the top of the list.

Right now Watson is healthy and in the nine games where Watson was starting last year Reed was on pace for 59-689-6. In seven games without Watson in the lineup his pace was 80-1,039-12. If you just look at the last four games (Watson missed the first three and last five games) of the season under the theory Reed was more comfortable in the system at the end of the year and that may reflect more how season two could play out, his pace was 102-1190-13. It takes a lot of speculation to get to Reed's high end projections IMO.

Watson is in the lineup, Doubs isn't going anywhere and Dontayvion Wicks's pace over the last four games, sans Watson, was 68-880-13. How does he factor in this year? ETA: Let's not forget second year TEs Musgrave & Kraft.

Of my receivers, ATM Reed is the one I am watching the closest as it relates to possibly adding Jameson.

 

[barackdhouse]

Made a sidebet with a buddy that he outscores D Smith in FP/game with 12 games minimum for both. Why take a 2nd WR in the 4th round when you can get the same in the 9th/10th? Told him he had to give me odds, my 50 for his 80.

 

[Wrigley]

took him at 10.4 in last night old draft.

Right at RB50 or so

 

[BobbyLayne]

In 16:26 at the podium today, Dan Campbell was zero questions about Jamo, nor was he brought up unprompted. Adjust your rankings accordingly.

The beat writer I trust the most, Justin Rogers, opined this week on his Substack channel he thinks Jamo will have 3-150-2 weeks and other weeks where he has less 30 yards. For the season, he reckons Goff puts up at least 4500, ASRB takes 1500 (SALY), LaPorta will still have a huge role, and Jah, Jamo & the rest of the gang will be competing for the remaining 2K (give or take) receiving yards.

700-800 yards seems like the most likely outcome, but def could see more if Ben Johnson condenses the distribution.

 

[packdog]

In 16:26 at the podium today, Dan Campbell was zero questions about Jamo, nor was he brought up unprompted. Adjust your rankings accordingly.

The beat writer I trust the most, Justin Rogers, opined this week on his Substack channel he thinks Jamo will have 3-150-2 weeks and other weeks where he has less 30 yards. For the season, he reckons Goff puts up at least 4500, ASRB takes 1500 (SALY), LaPorta will still have a huge role, and Jah, Jamo & the rest of the gang will be competing for the remaining 2K (give or take) receiving yards.

700-800 yards seems like the most likely outcome, but def could see more if Ben Johnson condenses the distribution.

hopefully week 1 then sell

 

[chad in Indy]

"Opined"

Off-topic. Such an underutilized word.

 

[ffmail4me]

I took him in the 8th round (93rd overall pick) last night in a PPR redraft as my WR #5.

 

[Deamon]

I was joking, right now I keep Reed.

who are your rbs?

 

[Chaka]

I was joking, right now I keep Reed.

who are your rbs?

Jonathan Taylor (RB4)
Jahmyr Gibbs (RB9)
David Montgomery (RB18)
Javonte Williams (RB29)
Chase Brown (RB37)
Jordan Mason (RB43)

Gibbs definitely fell further than I thought, RB9. Kyren & Etienne were taken ahead of him which, I can make an argument for. The one that surprised me was Rachaad White, I believe he will be a volume monster and could easily finish in the top 10 RBs, I just personally would have waited on grabbing him. Henry fell too (RB10).

 

[jon_mx]

In 16:26 at the podium today, Dan Campbell was zero questions about Jamo, nor was he brought up unprompted. Adjust your rankings accordingly.

The beat writer I trust the most, Justin Rogers, opined this week on his Substack channel he thinks Jamo will have 3-150-2 weeks and other weeks where he has less 30 yards. For the season, he reckons Goff puts up at least 4500, ASRB takes 1500 (SALY), LaPorta will still have a huge role, and Jah, Jamo & the rest of the gang will be competing for the remaining 2K (give or take) receiving yards.

700-800 yards seems like the most likely outcome, but def could see more if Ben Johnson condenses the distribution.

I was high on Gibbs, LaPorta and Saint long before any beat writers. Anyone can wait until a guy goes off for 1200 yards before you proclaim him a star. I do it before they actually do. Ben Johnson and Goff distributes the balls to all their weapons.. As much as ARSB is the most trusted workhorse, we still had 3 other players last year with nearly 1000 yards. Jamo is not a boom or bust player. Jamo will consistently get 6 to 7 targets every week and have 4 or 5 catches. And he will have his boom weeks.

 

[BassNBrew]

Jameson Williams to ESPN on Year 3 goals:“I just want to have the most yds and TDs – that would be my personal goals. Out of the whole NFL, I want to have the most receiving yds and TDs. It don’t matter about catches, because I know what I’m gonna do when I get the ball.”

Might have to downgrade him to WR#2 in PPR leagues.

I know he went to Alabama, but someone should probably tell him the Yds and TDs come after the catch.

 

[Faust]

@32 BeatWriters
"The key to the offense reaching new heights could be the arrival of wide receiver Jameson Williams...His routes look crisper, there are fewer drops and mental errors and Goff didn’t hesitate to throw his way. If Williams is ready for the spotlight, his unique top-end speed ability to change gears at a moment’s notice could provide more explosive plays than last year, while opening up the middle of the field for St. Brown and others."

x.com

x.com

 

[BassNBrew]

I just check my matchups for the week and I'm a little disappointed that Jameson hasn't posted at least 10 points by now. I was expecting more from him.

 

[Soulfly3]

Ladies and germs, you can now officially calm your nerves... I can confirm that I own him in 2 out of 2 leagues now.

Please buckle your safety belts for takeoff.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I took him in the 8th round (93rd overall pick) last night in a PPR redraft as my WR #5.

9th round, WR5/6 depending on what Ken Coleman does, hoping Williams can at least rise into a Flex option over someone like say Christian Kirk on some weeks

 

[Chaka]

He's sitting on my waiver wire right now. I'm really trying to talk myself out of dropping my third quarter back, Russell Wilson (It's a superflex League, please don't judge me) to pick him up. But quarterbacks can be so valuable in these type of leagues. It just feels like such a risk to let one go.

 

[BobbyLayne]

He's sitting on my waiver wire right now. I'm really trying to talk myself out of dropping my third quarter back, Russell Wilson (It's a superflex League, please don't judge me) to pick him up. But quarterbacks can be so valuable in these type of leagues. It just feels like such a risk to let one go.

DO IT

If you don’t, next week you’ll be

 

[Chaka]

He's sitting on my waiver wire right now. I'm really trying to talk myself out of dropping my third quarter back, Russell Wilson (It's a superflex League, please don't judge me) to pick him up. But quarterbacks can be so valuable in these type of leagues. It just feels like such a risk to let one go.

DO IT

If you don’t, next week you’ll be

Does it change your opinion if you know that I already have Goff, Monty and Gibbs?

All in my starting lineup.

 

[BassNBrew]

He's sitting on my waiver wire right now. I'm really trying to talk myself out of dropping my third quarter back, Russell Wilson (It's a superflex League, please don't judge me) to pick him up. But quarterbacks can be so valuable in these type of leagues. It just feels like such a risk to let one go.

DO IT

If you don’t, next week you’ll be

Does it change your opinion if you know that I already have Goff, Monty and Gibbs?

All in my starting lineup.

Nope.

I ran a team of Wilson, Lynch, Harvin?, Sea K, Sea D to a championship and another of 4 Cowboys and their D to a finals. I think you can go quite far with a team posting between 65-85 (on a 100 scale) compared to team posting (50-100). You may lose a bit of top end potential in a given week, but if Jameson scores more over the course of the year than his replacement, he's a better start regardless of team.

 

[BassNBrew]

Ladies and germs, you can now officially calm your nerves... I can confirm that I own him in 2 out of 2 leagues now.

Please buckle your safety belts for takeoff.

Count down to disappointment and suspension commences.

 

[Soulfly3]

Ladies and germs, you can now officially calm your nerves... I can confirm that I own him in 2 out of 2 leagues now.

Please buckle your safety belts for takeoff.

Count down to disappointment and suspension commences.

may your line be forever slack and beers warm.

 

[BassNBrew]

Ladies and germs, you can now officially calm your nerves... I can confirm that I own him in 2 out of 2 leagues now.

Please buckle your safety belts for takeoff.

Count down to disappointment and suspension commences.

may your line be forever slack and beers warm.

May you be right on this one.

 

[Lansdowne]

He's sitting on my waiver wire right now. I'm really trying to talk myself out of dropping my third quarter back, Russell Wilson (It's a superflex League, please don't judge me) to pick him up. But quarterbacks can be so valuable in these type of leagues. It just feels like such a risk to let one go.

DO IT

If you don’t, next week you’ll be

I’m out of the loop, what’s the reference to that shirt gif?

 

[Chaka]

He's sitting on my waiver wire right now. I'm really trying to talk myself out of dropping my third quarter back, Russell Wilson (It's a superflex League, please don't judge me) to pick him up. But quarterbacks can be so valuable in these type of leagues. It just feels like such a risk to let one go.

DO IT

If you don’t, next week you’ll be

I’m out of the loop, what’s the reference to that shirt gif?

Link

 

[jon_mx]

He's sitting on my waiver wire right now. I'm really trying to talk myself out of dropping my third quarter back, Russell Wilson (It's a superflex League, please don't judge me) to pick him up. But quarterbacks can be so valuable in these type of leagues. It just feels like such a risk to let one go.

DO IT

If you don’t, next week you’ll be

Does it change your opinion if you know that I already have Goff, Monty and Gibbs?

All in my starting lineup.

If Isaac Bruce was sitting on the waiver wire, would you pass on him just because you already had Warner, Faulk and Holt?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

He's sitting on my waiver wire right now. I'm really trying to talk myself out of dropping my third quarter back, Russell Wilson (It's a superflex League, please don't judge me) to pick him up. But quarterbacks can be so valuable in these type of leagues. It just feels like such a risk to let one go.

DO IT

If you don’t, next week you’ll be

Does it change your opinion if you know that I already have Goff, Monty and Gibbs?

All in my starting lineup.

If Isaac Bruce was sitting on the waiver wire, would you pass on him just because you already had Warner, Faulk and Bruce?

Yes, I would

 

[BobbyLayne]

well yeah, Bruce is 51

 

[Bob Loblaw]

well yeah, Bruce is 51

and if he's already on your team, then the Isaac Bruce on the WW must be some other Isaac Bruce

 

[Leroy Hoard]

well yeah, Bruce is 51

Especially bad idea in a dynasty league.

 

[jon_mx]

NFL executives and scouts have voted Jameson Williams as the breakout player of 2024.

 

[BassNBrew]

I just check my matchups for the week and I'm a little disappointed that Jameson hasn't posted at least 10 points by now. I was expecting more from him.

NFL executives and scouts have voted Jameson Williams as the breakout player of 2024.

See what I mean. Already winning awards, should be some points on the board already.

 

[kutta]

He's sitting on my waiver wire right now. I'm really trying to talk myself out of dropping my third quarter back, Russell Wilson (It's a superflex League, please don't judge me) to pick him up. But quarterbacks can be so valuable in these type of leagues. It just feels like such a risk to let one go.

DO IT

If you don’t, next week you’ll be

I’m out of the loop, what’s the reference to that shirt gif?

Years ago a poster here created a “fantasy football excuse” shirt that he was selling. He would say that when something didn’t go your way, point to the shirt. So “point to the shirt” became quite the catch phrase.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Jameson Williams or Shakir in redraft?

I had that choice in a draft tonight.

 

[BassNBrew]

Jameson Williams or Shakir in redraft?

I had that choice in a draft tonight.

Surely you took the guy GMs voted MVP of the 2024 season.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Jameson Williams or Shakir in redraft?

I had that choice in a draft tonight.

Surely you took the guy GMs voted MVP of the 2024 season.

Gonna see a few answers before the big reveal.

 

[Ray_T]

In 16:26 at the podium today, Dan Campbell was zero questions about Jamo, nor was he brought up unprompted. Adjust your rankings accordingly.

The beat writer I trust the most, Justin Rogers, opined this week on his Substack channel he thinks Jamo will have 3-150-2 weeks and other weeks where he has less 30 yards. For the season, he reckons Goff puts up at least 4500, ASRB takes 1500 (SALY), LaPorta will still have a huge role, and Jah, Jamo & the rest of the gang will be competing for the remaining 2K (give or take) receiving yards.

700-800 yards seems like the most likely outcome, but def could see more if Ben Johnson condenses the distribution.

I was high on Gibbs, LaPorta and Saint long before any beat writers. Anyone can wait until a guy goes off for 1200 yards before you proclaim him a star. I do it before they actually do. Ben Johnson and Goff distributes the balls to all their weapons.. As much as ARSB is the most trusted workhorse, we still had 3 other players last year with nearly 1000 yards. Jamo is not a boom or bust player. Jamo will consistently get 6 to 7 targets every week and have 4 or 5 catches. And he will have his boom weeks.

you have been high on Williams since he was drafted too. so if he breaks out you can wear that badge of honor for having called it. it may actually happen this year.

 

[BassNBrew]

In 16:26 at the podium today, Dan Campbell was zero questions about Jamo, nor was he brought up unprompted. Adjust your rankings accordingly.

The beat writer I trust the most, Justin Rogers, opined this week on his Substack channel he thinks Jamo will have 3-150-2 weeks and other weeks where he has less 30 yards. For the season, he reckons Goff puts up at least 4500, ASRB takes 1500 (SALY), LaPorta will still have a huge role, and Jah, Jamo & the rest of the gang will be competing for the remaining 2K (give or take) receiving yards.

700-800 yards seems like the most likely outcome, but def could see more if Ben Johnson condenses the distribution.

I was high on Gibbs, LaPorta and Saint long before any beat writers. Anyone can wait until a guy goes off for 1200 yards before you proclaim him a star. I do it before they actually do. Ben Johnson and Goff distributes the balls to all their weapons.. As much as ARSB is the most trusted workhorse, we still had 3 other players last year with nearly 1000 yards. Jamo is not a boom or bust player. Jamo will consistently get 6 to 7 targets every week and have 4 or 5 catches. And he will have his boom weeks.

you have been high on Williams since he was drafted too. so if he breaks out you can wear that badge of honor for having called it. it may actually happen this year.

It already happened, they just haven't posted the highlights of his HOF induction speech.

 

[Ray_T]

In 16:26 at the podium today, Dan Campbell was zero questions about Jamo, nor was he brought up unprompted. Adjust your rankings accordingly.

The beat writer I trust the most, Justin Rogers, opined this week on his Substack channel he thinks Jamo will have 3-150-2 weeks and other weeks where he has less 30 yards. For the season, he reckons Goff puts up at least 4500, ASRB takes 1500 (SALY), LaPorta will still have a huge role, and Jah, Jamo & the rest of the gang will be competing for the remaining 2K (give or take) receiving yards.

700-800 yards seems like the most likely outcome, but def could see more if Ben Johnson condenses the distribution.

I was high on Gibbs, LaPorta and Saint long before any beat writers. Anyone can wait until a guy goes off for 1200 yards before you proclaim him a star. I do it before they actually do. Ben Johnson and Goff distributes the balls to all their weapons.. As much as ARSB is the most trusted workhorse, we still had 3 other players last year with nearly 1000 yards. Jamo is not a boom or bust player. Jamo will consistently get 6 to 7 targets every week and have 4 or 5 catches. And he will have his boom weeks.

you have been high on Williams since he was drafted too. so if he breaks out you can wear that badge of honor for having called it. it may actually happen this year.

It already happened, they just haven't posted the highlights of his HOF induction speech.

damn I missed that. I need to travel to the future more often. did you by chance bring the sports almanac back from the future? I need to make some money making some sports bets

 

[BassNBrew]

In 16:26 at the podium today, Dan Campbell was zero questions about Jamo, nor was he brought up unprompted. Adjust your rankings accordingly.

The beat writer I trust the most, Justin Rogers, opined this week on his Substack channel he thinks Jamo will have 3-150-2 weeks and other weeks where he has less 30 yards. For the season, he reckons Goff puts up at least 4500, ASRB takes 1500 (SALY), LaPorta will still have a huge role, and Jah, Jamo & the rest of the gang will be competing for the remaining 2K (give or take) receiving yards.

700-800 yards seems like the most likely outcome, but def could see more if Ben Johnson condenses the distribution.

I was high on Gibbs, LaPorta and Saint long before any beat writers. Anyone can wait until a guy goes off for 1200 yards before you proclaim him a star. I do it before they actually do. Ben Johnson and Goff distributes the balls to all their weapons.. As much as ARSB is the most trusted workhorse, we still had 3 other players last year with nearly 1000 yards. Jamo is not a boom or bust player. Jamo will consistently get 6 to 7 targets every week and have 4 or 5 catches. And he will have his boom weeks.

you have been high on Williams since he was drafted too. so if he breaks out you can wear that badge of honor for having called it. it may actually happen this year.

It already happened, they just haven't posted the highlights of his HOF induction speech.

damn I missed that. I need to travel to the future more often. did you by chance bring the sports almanac back from the future? I need to make some money making some sports bets

These will cash

Jameson Williams Odds for 2024

www.rotowire.com

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Jameson Williams or Shakir in redraft?

I had that choice in a draft tonight.

Surely you took the guy GMs voted MVP of the 2024 season.

Gonna see a few answers before the big reveal.

i see @Chaka posited this same question in another topic, so…
Post in thread 'WR Khalil Shakir, BUF'
https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/wr-khalil-shakir-buf.804079/post-25026048

 

[Chaka]

Jameson Williams or Shakir in redraft?

I had that choice in a draft tonight.

Surely you took the guy GMs voted MVP of the 2024 season.

Gonna see a few answers before the big reveal.

i see @Chaka posited this same question in another topic, so…
Post in thread 'WR Khalil Shakir, BUF'
https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/wr-khalil-shakir-buf.804079/post-25026048

Still haven't decided.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Jameson Williams or Shakir in redraft?

I had that choice in a draft tonight.

Surely you took the guy GMs voted MVP of the 2024 season.

Gonna see a few answers before the big reveal.

i see @Chaka posited this same question in another topic, so…
Post in thread 'WR Khalil Shakir, BUF'
https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/wr-khalil-shakir-buf.804079/post-25026048

Still haven't decided.

It’s a conundrum.

 

[BassNBrew]

Jameson not a landslide selection in the FBG contest. Shakir almost doubled him up. I think we have a Jameson hype bubble in the Shark Pool based on the evidence at hand.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Jameson not a landslide selection in the FBG contest. Shakir almost doubled him up. I think we have a Jameson hype bubble in the Shark Pool based on the evidence at hand.

Feels a little like that.

That said, in NFFC ROC drafts their ADP is Shakir: 112, Jamo 97

So they’re feeling the Williams love in the $ contest leagues too.