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WR Jameson Williams, DET (5 Viewers)

He got the targets at least… Goff kept going back to him even as they were struggling to connect he had one pretty bad drop and then a couple that were difficult and off his fingertips I wouldn’t be selling and I might be looking to buy if somebody is frustrated right now Detroit does keep pushing it don’t feel no matter what the score is
 
The fifth option, at best, in this offense (behind St. Brown, Gibbs, Montgomery, and LaPorta). Will have his spike week on the bench. Incredibly frustrating for fantasy. Wish I hadn’t been so high on him. Baffled by his usage given the contract extension he just got.
 
Took this guy over Egbuka. Thats how you lose fantasy leagues. Had to start him 4 of 5 weeks due to numerous wr injuries. Guess which week I DIDNT start him.
 
Just completely worthless, he opens up the field for that team with his speed but man does he suck at literally everything else
 
Lansdowne said:
The fifth option, at best, in this offense (behind St. Brown, Gibbs, Montgomery, and LaPorta). Will have his spike week on the bench. Incredibly frustrating for fantasy. Wish I hadn’t been so high on him. Baffled by his usage given the contract extension he just got.
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Could not be more frustrating to have him this year. I just know he will go off once I finally don’t start him. Driving me crazy.
 
Jail said:
Lansdowne said:
The fifth option, at best, in this offense (behind St. Brown, Gibbs, Montgomery, and LaPorta). Will have his spike week on the bench. Incredibly frustrating for fantasy. Wish I hadn’t been so high on him. Baffled by his usage given the contract extension he just got.
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Could not be more frustrating to have him this year. I just know he will go off once I finally don’t start him. Driving me crazy.
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It'll happen and we'll just have to accept it. He's too risky to start at this point. Unless both ARSB and LaPorta miss time, I'm not starting him ever again. Would rather pick up and start a random FA who is less likely to be a decoy for most of the game. He's Gabe Davis but with higher draft capital. I didn't think I'd find a player in fantasy I like less than Kyle Pitts but I think I've arrived at Jameson Williams.
 
So all the hype from the team, the coaching staff, his teammates - just in total BS?

“Next level”, “expanded route tree”, “looks like a different player out there”, “gonna take the league by storm!”

Saw this from sports writers, FF talking heads, and literally every sleeper article all offseason.

The vast chasm between what we all expected based on that and the reality of what’s actually happening on the field is just incredible in the worst possible way.
 
He had 20 targets over his first four games, that's pretty decent usage, no not WR1 usage though. Only catching half of them though could lose him targets eventually (like game 5). But even top receivers have the occasional inexplicable low target game. I don't think it's doom and gloom yet.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
So all the hype from the team, the coaching staff, his teammates - just in total BS?

“Next level”, “expanded route tree”, “looks like a different player out there”, “gonna take the league by storm!”

Saw this from sports writers, FF talking heads, and literally every sleeper article all offseason.

The vast chasm between what we all expected based on that and the reality of what’s actually happening on the field is just incredible in the worst possible way.
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I think Jamo is the same player as last year, but last year he hit a few big plays early and then a lot of his numbers and big games week 11 and after when the Lions had a couple big games against bad teams and their defense got hurt and they played in a bunch of shoot outs.

I think last year was his ceiling with good variance barring an injury to ARSB.
 
msudaisy26 said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
So all the hype from the team, the coaching staff, his teammates - just in total BS?

“Next level”, “expanded route tree”, “looks like a different player out there”, “gonna take the league by storm!”

Saw this from sports writers, FF talking heads, and literally every sleeper article all offseason.

The vast chasm between what we all expected based on that and the reality of what’s actually happening on the field is just incredible in the worst possible way.
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I think Jamo is the same player as last year, but last year he hit a few big plays early and then a lot of his numbers and big games week 11 and after when the Lions had a couple big games against bad teams and their defense got hurt and they played in a bunch of shoot outs.

I think last year was his ceiling with good variance barring an injury to ARSB.
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That’s just so far away from what anyone projected though. It’s a total bummer.
 
eighsse2 said:
He had 20 targets over his first four games, that's pretty decent usage, no not WR1 usage though. Only catching half of them though could lose him targets eventually (like game 5). But even top receivers have the occasional inexplicable low target game. I don't think it's doom and gloom yet.
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His ADOT is 20.8 yards, which is ridiculous and explains the 52% catch rate.
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Chaka said:
This feels like a situation where his real life impact far outstrips his fantasy impact.
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Yeah, of course. But we were told otherwise! Like, the entire offseason! The team hyped him to infinity. How is that so far from what’s happening?!
:rant:
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But, is it?

I looked at it the same way you, and everyone else did (I took him earlier than anyone in the four FGBs home leagues) but, I never considered for even a second what the Lions may have been looking for when they extended him. In hindsight, I have to believe that we're seeing exactly what they were looking for when they extended him.

And, he'll, stubbornly, be in my lineup(s) all year regardless.
 
Chaka said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Chaka said:
This feels like a situation where his real life impact far outstrips his fantasy impact.
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Yeah, of course. But we were told otherwise! Like, the entire offseason! The team hyped him to infinity. How is that so far from what’s happening?!
:rant:
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But, is it?

I looked at it the same way you, and everyone else did (I took him earlier than anyone in the four FGBs home leagues) but, I never considered for even a second what the Lions may have been looking for when they extended him. In hindsight, I have to believe that we're seeing exactly what they were looking for when they extended him.

And, he'll, stubbornly, be in my lineup(s) all year regardless.
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IIRC you said you’d take him well ahead of Worthy. Still of that opinion?
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Chaka said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Chaka said:
This feels like a situation where his real life impact far outstrips his fantasy impact.
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Yeah, of course. But we were told otherwise! Like, the entire offseason! The team hyped him to infinity. How is that so far from what’s happening?!
:rant:
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But, is it?

I looked at it the same way you, and everyone else did (I took him earlier than anyone in the four FGBs home leagues) but, I never considered for even a second what the Lions may have been looking for when they extended him. In hindsight, I have to believe that we're seeing exactly what they were looking for when they extended him.

And, he'll, stubbornly, be in my lineup(s) all year regardless.
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IIRC you said you’d take him well ahead of Worthy. Still of that opinion?
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You really want to litigate this before Rice gets back?
 
Chaka said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Chaka said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Chaka said:
This feels like a situation where his real life impact far outstrips his fantasy impact.
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Yeah, of course. But we were told otherwise! Like, the entire offseason! The team hyped him to infinity. How is that so far from what’s happening?!
:rant:
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But, is it?

I looked at it the same way you, and everyone else did (I took him earlier than anyone in the four FGBs home leagues) but, I never considered for even a second what the Lions may have been looking for when they extended him. In hindsight, I have to believe that we're seeing exactly what they were looking for when they extended him.

And, he'll, stubbornly, be in my lineup(s) all year regardless.
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IIRC you said you’d take him well ahead of Worthy. Still of that opinion?
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You really want to litigate this before Rice gets back?
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I’m just asking questions man.
 
It seems like Tesla is taking away from Jameson.

from JJs late round

Jameson Williams in 2024:

  • 3.9 receptions per game
  • 66.7 receiving yards per game
  • 0.5 TD per game
  • 14.2 PPR PPG
Jameson Williams in 2025:

  • 2.2 receptions per game
  • 44.6 receiving yards per game
  • 0.2 TD per game
  • 7.9 PPR PPG
According to PFF, Isaac TeSlaa ran a route on 54% of Detroit's drop backs in Week 5. That was a season high. His previous high was 38%.
 
Chaka said:
eighsse2 said:
He had 20 targets over his first four games, that's pretty decent usage, no not WR1 usage though. Only catching half of them though could lose him targets eventually (like game 5). But even top receivers have the occasional inexplicable low target game. I don't think it's doom and gloom yet.
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His ADOT is 20.8 yards, which is ridiculous and explains the 52% catch rate.
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So much for the expanded route tree…
 
tigerz said:
It seems like Tesla is taking away from Jameson.

from JJs late round

Jameson Williams in 2024:

  • 3.9 receptions per game
  • 66.7 receiving yards per game
  • 0.5 TD per game
  • 14.2 PPR PPG
Jameson Williams in 2025:

  • 2.2 receptions per game
  • 44.6 receiving yards per game
  • 0.2 TD per game
  • 7.9 PPR PPG
According to PFF, Isaac TeSlaa ran a route on 54% of Detroit's drop backs in Week 5. That was a season high. His previous high was 38%.
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Not defending Jamo, but TeSlaa is getting one target a game. That's not cutting into Jamo. It might in the future, but it was Kalif Raymond's time plummeting Sunday.

No biggie. i just don't think the suggestion or implication is accurate. Jameson had more snaps on offense than anybody but LaPorta and Goff and ran more routes (24) than anyone but Amon-Ra (25). Detroit did not lavish a new contract on him to not play him. And that contract? Wow, is it team-friendly. They are not cutting Jamo unless there's a huge mistake.

Numbers came out around Sept. 9th or so. It's all team options.

sports.yahoo.com

Jameson Williams' contract details have dropped, and they make the Lions look really, really smart and ready to get other big deals done

The Detroit Lions surprised some when they signed Jameson Williams to a big three-year extension that pays up to $83 million ahead of the season as opposed to after it. With some of the drama surrounding Williams during the 2024 season, the expectation was that they would wait to see if he could ...
sports.yahoo.com sports.yahoo.com

  • $30.58M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2025 salary + 2026 compensation)
  • $16M 2027 compensation fully guarantees the 3rd league day of 2026 (injury guaranteed at sign)
  • $8M 2028 compensation fully guarantees the 3rd league day of 2027 (injury guaranteed at sign)
  • Additional $12M of 2028 salary fully guarantees the 3rd league day of 2028 (injury guaranteed at sign)
  • 2026 Option Bonus: $10.278M
  • 2027 Option Bonus: $12.74M
  • 2028 Option Bonus: $16.695M
  • 2029 Option Bonus: $28.565M
  • 2026-2029 Per Game Active Bonus: $100,000 ($1.7M)
 
If the Lions score 4 TDs a game, the pecking order is St. Brown, Gibby, Monty, LaPorta then Williams is the last dog at the bowl.

Now add in the big WR Tessla in the red zone.

Still think Williams will get some long ones but doubt he will be a reliable FF WR.
 
Leroy Hoard said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Maybe the question should be “where’s Jamo getting traded at the deadline?”
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Yeah you know that's not happening. He stretches the defense and blocks down field for everyone else. As someone already said better real life than fantasy.
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He definitely isn't getting traded, and I have been critical of Jamo many times so you can take this with a grain of salt.

You dont pay a wide receiver 28 million a year on an extension after trading up to 12 in the draft to get him for just a speed guy that can block. You are expecting this guy to be a top 20 wr in the league. You can go out and find a blocking version of MVS, Kenny Stills, etc for a third of the price.
 
Part of the issue is the reshuffling of the line - it takes time for his routes to develop, and the Lions don't fully trust the interior of the line to hold up for longer routes. You saw it against the Browns where several of Goff's deep targets to Jamo were affected by defenders in his space.

I expected them to use the Cinci game to get some kinks worked out, but then their left tackle got hurt and they were forced to start their 3rd string project left tackle, who had a tough time against Hendrickson. Once Taylor Decker gets back, I'd expect Jamo's participation to go up significantly.
 
nysfl2 said:
Part of the issue is the reshuffling of the line - it takes time for his routes to develop, and the Lions don't fully trust the interior of the line to hold up for longer routes. You saw it against the Browns where several of Goff's deep targets to Jamo were affected by defenders in his space.

I expected them to use the Cinci game to get some kinks worked out, but then their left tackle got hurt and they were forced to start their 3rd string project left tackle, who had a tough time against Hendrickson. Once Taylor Decker gets back, I'd expect Jamo's participation to go up significantly.
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I would agree, but all summer we were told Jamo has expanded his route tree and he isn't just running deep routes.
 
msudaisy26 said:
I would agree, but all summer we were told Jamo has expanded his route tree and he isn't just running deep routes.
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Yep - by teammates, the OC, beat writers, etc, etc, etc. This topic is littered with quotes, links to players and coaches saying it.

And like, not one part of that has manifested.

The timing sucked as I drafted 2 startup leagues & prioritized Jamo as one of my bargains - blew a 5.11 on him in one league & a 5.09 in another.

Long season but the return on my investments is rough. In one league Egbuka went 1 pick later, naturally.
 
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eighsse2 said:
He had 20 targets over his first four games, that's pretty decent usage, no not WR1 usage though. Only catching half of them though could lose him targets eventually (like game 5). But even top receivers have the occasional inexplicable low target game. I don't think it's doom and gloom yet.
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Last year, Jamo was 2nd on the team in targets, even with 2 missed games. This year he has dropped below LaPorta and Gibbs. I think people were expecting a decent amount more. In the last 9 weeks of 2024, he had at least 5 targets in every game.
 
nysfl2 said:
Part of the issue is the reshuffling of the line - it takes time for his routes to develop, and the Lions don't fully trust the interior of the line to hold up for longer routes. You saw it against the Browns where several of Goff's deep targets to Jamo were affected by defenders in his space.

I expected them to use the Cinci game to get some kinks worked out, but then their left tackle got hurt and they were forced to start their 3rd string project left tackle, who had a tough time against Hendrickson. Once Taylor Decker gets back, I'd expect Jamo's participation to go up significantly.
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Decker may not be back anytime soon:
Yahoo sports link

He could be back sooner than later but that article makes it sound really doubtful for this weekend. I have to drop this guy.
 
Bye weeks and a short bench means I have to either play this dude or go and get someone like Mooney off waivers. It's a no-win situation right now.
 
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