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WR Jarvis Landry, Saints (1 Viewer)

Bojang0301 said:
John Dorsey did, that’s all I’m saying. Obviously, we agree. 
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You honestly think Dorsey thinks Landry is the same type of dominant WR1 as JJ or AB? That's ridiculous, of course he knows the difference. Doesn't have anything to do with the contract he gave him, that's a market value thing imo.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
You honestly think Dorsey thinks Landry is the same type of dominant WR1 as JJ or AB? That's ridiculous, of course he knows the difference. Doesn't have anything to do with the contract he gave him, that's a market value thing imo.
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Remember when Dez came in and they asked him who it was he was seeing that day that was one of top TD catching WR’s of the last three years and he said Landry? Yes I do believe he thinks/thought that. 

Edit: Dorsey was asked who had the most TD catches since 2012, answer being Dez, and he said Landry. Landry ranked at 50 beneath Coby Fleener, Micheal Floyd and Ted Ginn.

 
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I'm worried now more than ever - Landry is the defacto #1 across many boards this week. hat to buck the trend but am I the only one thinking this is Duke Johnson's coming out party for 2018? Landy doubled, Chubb zero targets so far this year - DJ all the way to the bank..

 
I should have never backed off my stance. He’s reverted back to what he is: an unathletic slot WR with bizarre usage in the modern NFL.

 
What the - previous post was from the end of October. Unless there’s another thread being used. 

Love the runs he is getting. Really need him next week. The targets have always been there, but Mayfield has been looking at others more as the season goes on. 

 
What the heck happened this season?

140 Targets.  That's tied with Michael Thomas, ahead of Diggs, Mike Evans, , Hill, Wood.  

Yet still only 76 catches.  54%

He caught 69% last season.  

 
jm192 said:
What the heck happened this season?

140 Targets.  That's tied with Michael Thomas, ahead of Diggs, Mike Evans, , Hill, Wood.  

Yet still only 76 catches.  54%

He caught 69% last season.  
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Rookie QB. How many drops did he have? I would assume not many. He has great hands. Again...rookie QB missing a lot of throws I wreakin.

 
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Where does everyone see him going into next season?  

I feel like he'll have pretty goo positive regression.  The volume was there as previously mentioned in this thread.  Just didn't turn it into production.  And yet he still barely missed 1,000 yards.  I've got him around WR20 going into next season.  I feel like he could be solid value after a disappointing season.  Baker seems legit, I feel like the offense will continue to improve--and as they say rising tides lift all ships

 
Jarvis Landry is a solid WR two for fantasy football who has been close to a WR one due to the high volume of receptions hes had and PPR scoring.

Landry has never been lower than 66% catch rate until this season where he caught 54% of his targets. I agree with Todem that this is mostly due to playing with a rookie QB. First year with the team, coaches fired during the season, lots of instability around also perhaps contributing to that somewhat. I would project Landy to catch 67% of his targets which is is career catch rate at this point (it fell due to the 2018 season).

Landrys yards per receptions was 12 which was similar to the 2016 season for him, this is when Jay Ajayi had a big season. There are some similarities with Chubb and Ajayi where the offense may be run through these RB and Landry gets to benefit more from play action.

130 targets 87 receptions 1043 yards 6 TD is what I would project for him next season.

 
Not sure what happened last year but his catch rate was horrendous. Kept waiting for all of those targets to turn into WR1 production and it never happened. 

 
Thoughts on him in dynasty?

Tempted to move on, but also feel like he's at a bit of a low.  

Obviously Beckham will be the go to guy.  However, I think the Browns will have a very potent offense and have more plays overall.  

Leaning towards holding onto him until the first few weeks and looking for a sell high opportunity.

 
jm192 said:
Thoughts on him in dynasty?

Tempted to move on, but also feel like he's at a bit of a low.  

Obviously Beckham will be the go to guy.  However, I think the Browns will have a very potent offense and have more plays overall.  

Leaning towards holding onto him until the first few weeks and looking for a sell high opportunity.
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Do you see his stats going up from being the #1 last year, to now being behind Beckham?  Sure, the pie may be bigger overall, but he's going to be getting a smaller slice of it. 

 
matttyl said:
Do you see his stats going up from being the #1 last year, to now being behind Beckham?  Sure, the pie may be bigger overall, but he's going to be getting a smaller slice of it. 
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I actually could see his stats going up with an improved offense. He will no longer be going against the other teams #1 CB which should free him up a little. I can definitely see his TD total going up.

 
People seem all over the place with his ranking? Do we think Landry can be a WR2 for fantasy  this season?

 
Obviously Beckham has more speed and big play ability than Landry has. He also has great hands but so does Landry.

These guys did play together in LSU and Landry actually outperformed Beckham slightly in their 3rd season together by 18 receptions 41 yards and 2 TD.

Their QB Zach Mettenberger was so bad that he caused a lot of contested catch situations for these WR to show off their hands and ball skills. I think Beckham has the tools to benefit more from good QB play than Landry has, but Landry catches everything. He is somewhat QB proof. Look at his career so far.

As a Vikings fan the duo really reminded me of Randy Moss and Chris Carter. Beckham has the score from anywhere ability like Moss while Landry is the clutch player to go to on 3rd down.

I think both will thrive playing together again. I think Beckham really compliments Landry by drawing coverage away from him. 

Of course I would prefer to have Beckham, but I think Landry will do well too. 

While it is reasonable to expect that Beckham will lead the team in targets Landry has two seasons of over 80 receptions with 112 targets in 2014 and with 131 targets in 2016. If Landry is getting higher quality targets due to weaker coverage (because of Beckham) then he won't need as many to still have a lot of receptions. 

Landry doesn't score a lot of TD and his ADOT is usually very low thus the lower yardage totals, but he hasn't missed a game or had a season under 80 receptions yet.

 
Casting Couch said:
I would feel more comfortable with Landry as a fantasy 3, it seems more realistic. He's wildly inconsistent, always has been.
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He was one of the most stable and reliable players in the league for years in Miami.  You're trying to rewrite history.

 
tangfoot said:
He was one of the most stable and reliable players in the league for years in Miami.  You're trying to rewrite history.
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Yep.  In his 4 years in Miami, he only had 2 games with less than 3 catches.  His first game ever and one game in 2015 with 2 receptions.  In 2017, he didn't have a game with less than 5 receptions.

I am a little concerned about how Jarvis ended last year.  The Browns and Baker did great over their last 7 games but Landry was pedestrian.  He had 26/398/2 over those last 7 games.  That projects to 59/909/4.5 over 16 games.  I wonder how many of his receptions in Miami came against a soft defense when they were playing from behind.  Hopefully, the coverage that OBJ demands will also soften defenses up for Landry.

 
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tangfoot said:
He was one of the most stable and reliable players in the league for years in Miami.  You're trying to rewrite history.
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( You are right, Tang,  my mistake, it's more of JL's recent history, the past 2 seasons )

Standard scoring leagues :

2018 -  9 games at 7 points or less / 6 games of double digit scoring

2017 -  6 games a 7 points or less / 9 games of double digit scoring

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Consistency with TDs ( 4 or 5 per season in 4 of his first 5 seasons)

 
Casting Couch said:
( You are right, Tang,  my mistake, it's more of JL's recent history, the past 2 seasons )

Standard scoring leagues :

2018 -  9 games at 7 points or less / 6 games of double digit scoring

2017 -  6 games a 7 points or less / 9 games of double digit scoring

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Consistency with TDs ( 4 or 5 per season in 4 of his first 5 seasons)
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2018 was crap, agree completely.

But I thought 2017 was both his most consistent and best season of his career.  He kinda #### the bed in Week 16, but in my league he put up 13.70, 13.95, 18.75, 13.00, 9.70, 23.05, 17.40 from weeks 9 through 15. He averaged just under one TD per game from weeks 5 though 14, as well. 

It must just stick out because he helped win my league that year.

 
tangfoot said:
I mean, they weren't world beaters, but Miami's record over those 4 years was 30-34.  They were average and competitive.
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Yeah, I had thought the Dolphins were worse than that.  One thing Landry did benefit from was a lack of competition from other offensive weapons on the Dolphins.  DeVante Parker had physical traits that had to be respected by the defense but he wasn't a receiver a quarterback would trust to throw to often.  Kenny Stills was a good deep threat that garnered defensive attention but deep threats don't garner many targets.  Landry also didn't have much competition from tight ends in the short passing game.  In a sense, the Dolphins offense was built around Landry.  The Browns offense will not be built around Landry.

So why would Landry be a 60-catch receiver in the second half of last year?  Baker was rolling and Landry didn't have much competition from other receivers.  Baker's height could be one reason.  Being a short quarterback makes the quick 3-step drop throws over the middle more difficult.  Baker prospers when he rolls out and doesn't have tall offensive linemen blocking his vision and throws.  Slot receivers have often prospered with tall, statue quarterbacks throwing quick, timed passes.  Also, Baker's mobility gives him the time to wait for a receiver to be completely open.  Landry's lack of physical attributes means he isn't often going to be completely open.  He is a strong receiver in traffic with strong hands who can be a security blanket for an immobile quarterback.  Baker isn't that quarterback.

 
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Jarvis Landry caught 3-of-7 targets for 32 yards in the Browns' Week 2 win over the Jets.

Landry is a distant second fiddle in this offense with Odell Beckham now in the picture. Through two games, Landry has 99 yards on seven grabs. He's tough to trust as anything more than a WR4 for a Browns offense that is playing extremely slow and has yet to hit its stride under first-time coach and play-caller Freddie Kitchens. Landry gets a tough date with the Rams next Sunday night for Week 3.

Sep 16, 2019, 11:39 PM ET
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I still don't know what to make of him

Had 9 targets in week 3.  He's got 23 targets through 3 weeks.  The volume is seemingly there.  Yet he keeps not doing anything with the targets.  I've had him in 1 league for 3 years now, and I'm ready to give him up for anything.  

 
Jarvis Landry remains in the concussion protocol.

Landry should be considered questionable for Monday night's matchup against the 49ers. It remains to be seen if Antonio Callaway will walk into a starting role fresh off suspension, particularly if Rashard Higgins (ankle) manages to return to action. Damion Ratley is a threat to steal snaps either way. Landry is set up well in the slot if active against K'Waun Williams.

SOURCE: Mary Kay Cabot on Twitter.

Oct 3, 2019, 10:43 AM ET
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Jarvis Landry caught 4-of-6 targets for 75 yards in the Browns' Week 5 loss to the 49ers.

Cleared from a Week 4 concussion, Landry easily led the Browns in receiving on a night Baker Mayfield threw for just 100 yards. Landry's first catch actually came from Odell Beckham for 20 yards. Landry has by far been the most reliable Browns wideout to date but will remain a WR3 next week against the Seahawks.
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Jarvis Landry (shoulder) remained "limited" on Thursday.

Landry's status was never in doubt, but coach Freddie Kitchens said he looked better on Thursday than Wednesday. With Odell Beckham likely to draw Chris Harris' shadow against the Broncos, Landry sets up as an interesting volume-based WR3.

Oct 31, 2019, 4:05 PM ET
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Jarvis Landry caught 6-of-13 targets for 51 yards and a touchdown in Cleveland's Week 9 loss to the Broncos.

Landry's performance seemed like more of the same at first as Baker Mayfield started 0-for-4 targeting him out the gates. Fortunately Mayfield went 6-for-9 in Landry's direction the rest of the way, seeing the 26-year-old snap his seven-game touchdown drought and break a tackle from nine yards out to record his first score of 2019. With 23 targets in his last two contests, Landry's floor is arguably returning to that of last season when he totaled 149 looks as the team's primary slot wideout and safety blanket underneath. He'll be ranked as a high-floor WR3 in Week 10 despite being involved in a much tougher matchup against the Bills.

Nov 3, 2019, 9:28 PM ET
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Jarvis Landry caught 9-of-10 targets for 97 yards and a touchdown in the Browns' Week 10 win over the Bills.

For his 17-yard score, Landry beat Levi Wallace 1-on-1. As has been the case more than once this season, Landry's big day felt fueled in part by the opposing No. 1 corner (Tre'Davious White in this instance) shadowing Odell Beckham. Although he's drawn at least 10 targets in three straight games, Landry will be a low-ceiling WR3 for Week 11 vs. the Steelers.
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Jarvis Landry caught 4-of-7 targets for 43 yards and a touchdown in the Browns' Week 11 win over the Steelers.

Landry has now scored in three-straight games, though tonight was the first time in four contests he was held below 10 targets. His touchdown was a one-yarder where he was left uncovered. Landry could have to spend more time on the outside now that Antonio Callaway has been waived, which would lower his floor in PPR leagues. Either way, he will be a rock solid WR3 for Week 12 against the Dolphins.
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Jarvis Landry caught 6-of-11 targets for a team-high 76 yards in Cleveland's Week 13 loss to the Steelers.

Odell Beckham (3/29) played second fiddle again with six looks. It's the fourth time Landry's seen double-digit targets in his last five games and the only outing in that span in which he didn't reach the end zone. He did arguably make the catch of the year, though, dancing along the sideline for a 15-yard acrobatic gain in the first half (that was initially ruled incomplete but later overturned). Baker Mayfield also looked to Landry on the team's final throw but ultimately ended up hitting Joe Haden to move the Browns to 5-7 and on the outside looking into the AFC playoff picture. At this point, it's clear Landry's earned status as Cleveland's unequivocal No. 1 wideout for fantasy reasons moving forward. He'll rank as a top-15 option in Week 14 against the Bengals.

Dec 1, 2019, 6:28 PM ET
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Jarvis Landry caught 4-of-7 targets for 76 yards in the Browns' Week 14 win over the Bengals.

Landry has at least seven targets in 11-of-13 games this season with at least 50 yards in all but three games. He paces the Browns in receiving pretty much every week with Odell Beckham struggling through his first season in Cleveland. Landry will be a strong WR2 with upside next week against the Cardinals.
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Jarvis Landry (hip) remained limited at Thursday's practice.

Landry was limited with the same injury last week before he was ultimately removed from Cleveland's final report. We'd expect the same outcome this week. On the cusp of his third career 1,000-yard receiving campaign, Landry belongs on the WR1/2 borderline for Sunday's showdown with the Cardinals, who have yielded a league-high 294.2 passing yards per game this season.

SOURCE: Darren Urban on Twitter

Dec 12, 2019, 4:31 PM ET
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NFL Network's Mike Silver reports Jarvis Landry is one of "multiple" Browns players who yelled "Come get me" to the Cardinals' sideline on Sunday.

It's the same line Odell Beckham reportedly shouted at various teams earlier this year. Landry was shown in a heated spat with coach Freddie Kitchens on the sideline Sunday but the latter downplayed the scene in his weekly press conference, stating it "doesn't surprise him" since he likes the "energy" and "passion the guys plays with." The 6-8 Browns have been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster, having any bright blips consistently overshadowed by off-field issues and unwarranted drama. Whether it's Kitchens' fault or not doesn't matter since the team will still undoubtedly hold onto him for another year to avoid admitting their own mistake. The Browns cap off their underwhelming 2019 campaign against AFC North foes Baltimore and Cincinnati.

SOURCE: Mike Silver on Twitter

Dec 16, 2019, 2:48 PM ET
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Better get rid of Kitchens and Monken fast. The place is a sewer.

There are a ton of clowns coaching in the NFL that have no business there.

 
Mike Silver, Hue's buddy? Yeah I'll believe this when others report it. Should be tons of reports, if Browns players were really screaming that at the Cardinals bench. Would be a huge story, not a scoop from a third tier guy like Silver with an axe to grind for his friend. 

 
Speaking Wednesday, Jarvis Landry vehemently denied NFL Network's Mike Silver's report that stated Landry yelled "come get me" to the Cardinals sideline in Week 15.

"I would never look to another team during a game especially that we’re losing and say ‘come get me’ with a worse record than we have," Landry said. "Don’t try to slander my name." Landry got into a sideline spat with coach Freddie Kitchens in the loss at Arizona, but he denies Silver's report. The Browns just need this season to end, put it behind them, and move forward with eyes on a 2020 bounce-back. Of course, Landry hasn't been the problem, as he's posted his third 1,000-yard season and first with the Browns to go with five touchdowns.

SOURCE: Nate Ulrich on Twitter

Dec 18, 2019, 1:54 PM ET
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Jarvis Landry caught 7-of-8 targets for 74 yards in the Browns' Week 16 loss to the Ravens.

Landry worked as Baker Mayfield’s primary target. Still, none of the yardage was easy with Marlon Humphrey providing plenty of resistance from the slot for most of the afternoon. Landry has been the more consistent WR compared to Odell Beckham this season, but the limited ceiling of the offense in general has hurt the fantasy value of both players. The good news for Landry is a prime explosion spot in Week 17 against the Bengals’ porous secondary.
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