WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba, SEA (1 Viewer)

[kutta]

I’m kind of hoping he has some average/bad games to end the year so I can get him cheaper next year.

what are you looking give? as a JSN owner I'm giving him away but I will listen to offers. He turns 23 and just seems to be coming into his own.

I mean in redraft. He’s already on my dynasty roster and I’m holding there.

 

[Faust]

Dave Kluge
Jaxon Smith-Njigba played primarily in the slot because they had DK Metcalf.

There are obviously overlapping traits between Cooper Kupp and JSN. But JSN has the elasticity to move out wide where he can get more valuable targets in Klint Kubiak’s offense.

This is good for JSN.

https://x.com/davekluge/status/1900685774724702496?s=61

The can play out of base 11 personnel.

Kupp will help in the run game as a blocker from the slot.

Marquez Valdes-Scantling will be their flanker.

JSN gets the vaunted “X role in a McDaniel offense.”

Why are people upset?

https://x.com/davekluge/status/1900685776767332643?s=61

 

[-OZ-]

Dave Kluge
Jaxon Smith-Njigba played primarily in the slot because they had DK Metcalf.

There are obviously overlapping traits between Cooper Kupp and JSN. But JSN has the elasticity to move out wide where he can get more valuable targets in Klint Kubiak’s offense.

This is good for JSN.

https://x.com/davekluge/status/1900685774724702496?s=61

The can play out of base 11 personnel.

Kupp will help in the run game as a blocker from the slot.

Marquez Valdes-Scantling will be their flanker.

JSN gets the vaunted “X role in a McDaniel offense.”

Why are people upset?

https://x.com/davekluge/status/1900685776767332643?s=61

I’m a fan. He might be the best WR from Ohio State this year.

 

[fatness]

How do you think adding Kupp affects JSN?

 

[ghostguy123]

How do you think adding Kupp affects JSN?

Not much. They had to add SOMEbody

 

[kutta]

I’ve been on the JSN bandwagon from day 1. Last year was a mini breakout. This year he’ll enter stud territory.

 

[menobrown]

How do you think adding Kupp affects JSN?

Negative especially in the context of you removed a field stretcher in DK and adding another WR that will condense the field.

 

[Birdie048]

Who is OC in Seattle? Legit Question. Hard to keep track on all the coaching carousel changes…
Will Kupp be used for more Walker/Charb runs in a Run First offense scheme?
Kupp was very run blocker on screens & RB in the flat IIRC.
So depending on OC schemes, yes it could impact JSN but not in the target volume concerns unless Darnold works magic with Kupp

 

[osubuckeyeman]

I think they have a plan. There is no reason to panic on JSN.

JSN creates his own space and is an elite route runner. JSN will get his. I would see this as an opening to trade for JSN. The only risk I see here is Sam Darnold, and I think he is a capable QB, so I'm not overly worried. You can not predict how two players mesh, and there is always a chance Darnold won't mesh with JSN or any receiver. You don't know till you know.

 

[travdogg]

Who is OC in Seattle? Legit Question. Hard to keep track on all the coaching carousel changes…
Will Kupp be used for more Walker/Charb runs in a Run First offense scheme?
Kupp was very run blocker on screens & RB in the flat IIRC.
So depending on OC schemes, yes it could impact JSN but not in the target volume concerns unless Darnold works magic with Kupp

Klint Kubiak (Shanahan Tree)

 

[menobrown]

Who is OC in Seattle? Legit Question. Hard to keep track on all the coaching carousel changes…
Will Kupp be used for more Walker/Charb runs in a Run First offense scheme?
Kupp was very run blocker on screens & RB in the flat IIRC.
So depending on OC schemes, yes it could impact JSN but not in the target volume concerns unless Darnold works magic with Kupp

Klint Kubiak (Shanahan Tree)

The guy who annoyed a lot of Olave owners last year by featuring ,or at least running an offense that threw to Shaheed more then Olave in their games together.

 

[-OZ-]

Who is OC in Seattle? Legit Question. Hard to keep track on all the coaching carousel changes…
Will Kupp be used for more Walker/Charb runs in a Run First offense scheme?
Kupp was very run blocker on screens & RB in the flat IIRC.
So depending on OC schemes, yes it could impact JSN but not in the target volume concerns unless Darnold works magic with Kupp

Klint Kubiak (Shanahan Tree)

The guy who annoyed a lot of Olave owners last year by featuring ,or at least running an offense that threw to Shaheed more then Olave in their games together.

So, MVS is the play here?
Although shaheed is better.

 

[Kiddnets]

How do you think adding Kupp affects JSN?

Negative especially in the context of you removed a field stretcher in DK and adding another WR that will condense the field.

if this can give any kind of discount on a trade Ill be running to get JSN. Hes gonna be a WR1 next yr IMO

 

[crushedspirit]

His route tree is expansive and we all saw it last season when DK was unavailable. With DK out of the way JSN can easily be deployed at X and be very productive.

 

[menobrown]

How do you think adding Kupp affects JSN?

Negative especially in the context of you removed a field stretcher in DK and adding another WR that will condense the field.

if this can give any kind of discount on a trade Ill be running to get JSN. Hes gonna be a WR1 next yr IMO

He might be but I still don't view losing DK and gaining Kupp as a net positive. He'll carry a lot more unknowns in general then most of the top 15 or so WR's when you add in the unknown impact of new QB and new OC and to me more unknowns equal maybe a bigger reward but also increased odds of disappointing.

All that being said I got him just outside the top 12 WR's, not far. I'm not eviserating his value, it's just a little down to me from where we started this off-seaon.

Real life recent redraft example. I'm in a slow draft right now with a 6 hour clock, drafting from the 2 hole and on deck for my pick in round 2. Team picking 3 had been OTC for a few hours the night they signed Kupp. I went into my queue and put in 5 players, knowing I was guaranteed to get two of these players with my second and third round picks. JSN was in that list for me. When I saw they signed Kupp I pulled him out of the list but he'd only have been moved back like 3 players. I'm not doing full on rankings right now but looking at my draft board I'd probably list him as WR14.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

I can't help but think of Amon-Ra St. Brown's career trajectory when I think of JSN.

After his 2nd season, ARSB had established himself as a legit #1 WR, but as I recall...the draft community somewhat undersold him a bit as his TD production was not great (11 thru 2 seasons). But Year 3 saw him become the go-to WR in that offense. While that was Laporta's rookie season, the WR2 in that offense was Josh Reynolds.

I do wonder if we see the same jump for JSN, a similarly sized and profiled player.

 

[FarFromHome]

No Metcalf. No Lockett. Dudes gonna have a million targets. Gonna also start getting serious attention from defenses. He is good enough to overcome that. I'm penciling him in as a top 10 wr this year.

 

[jm192]

Coming off 100 catches. Lost Lockett and Metcalf. I've got him at WR12.

Darnold can support him as an elite pass catcher. I'm sure Seattle wants to run and play defense. But they're projected win total is at 7.5. They're going to end up throwing the football plenty.

 

[Faust]

2025 Seattle Seahawks training camp: Latest intel, updates

Excerpt:

Camp recap: Who has been your standout performer of camp?

WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba. The third-year receiver has reached that level of excellence where highlight plays feel almost routine, but his strong camp shouldn't be overlooked.

He has consistently looked like the Seahawks' best offensive player over the past two weeks, and the touchdown catch he made at the end of practice Monday while falling out of the side of the end zone was just one example.

While mostly known for his work out of the slot over his first two seasons, Smith-Njigba continues to show he can win from the outside as well. That may be more of a necessity this season with DK Metcalf gone and Cooper Kupp filling the WR2 role.

 

[Faust]

Mike Spofford
Smith-Njigba having a day for Seahawks. 2 TDs in RZ 7 on 7. You’d think he and Darnold have played together for longer than a few months. Not like he’s wide open, but dude just makes plays vs decent Packers coverage.

https://x.com/mikespofford/status/1958572695454417264?s=61

 

[FarFromHome]

Took some time, but today i finally landed my first Jaxon share for this year. Giddy up.

 

[barackdhouse]

Is quietly one of my favorite picks in the 3rd round. No barrier to #1 target domination.

 

[elmanx]

No barrier to #1 target domination.

Kupp seems like at least a minor barrier to domination. Are we even sure that he's washed?

 

[Desert_Power]

No barrier to #1 target domination.

Kupp seems like at least a minor barrier to domination. Are we even sure that he's washed?

No, but McVay seemed to be.

 

[FarFromHome]

No barrier to #1 target domination.

Kupp seems like at least a minor barrier to domination. Are we even sure that he's washed?

No, but McVay seemed to be.

Without looking it up who is Seattle's #3 wr? I think as a Jaxon owner I don't want Kupp to be washed.

 

[Desert_Power]

No barrier to #1 target domination.

Kupp seems like at least a minor barrier to domination. Are we even sure that he's washed?

No, but McVay seemed to be.

Without looking it up who is Seattle's #3 wr? I think as a Jaxon owner I don't want Kupp to be washed.

I think the rookie Horton will get the 3rd spot.

 

[barackdhouse]

No barrier to #1 target domination.

Kupp seems like at least a minor barrier to domination. Are we even sure that he's washed?

No, but McVay seemed to be.

Without looking it up who is Seattle's #3 wr? I think as a Jaxon owner I don't want Kupp to be washed.

In my opinion it's going to be Kupp until he completely washes out. I think Horton will be the number 2 by midseason. All teams have WRs that catch passes. Kupp and Horton and others will catch passes. But I don't see either commanding anything that threatens JSN share. I expect it to be shockingly high. Darnold and the LACK of other weapons to draw attention is my biggest concern.

 

[FarFromHome]

No barrier to #1 target domination.

Kupp seems like at least a minor barrier to domination. Are we even sure that he's washed?

No, but McVay seemed to be.

Without looking it up who is Seattle's #3 wr? I think as a Jaxon owner I don't want Kupp to be washed.

In my opinion it's going to be Kupp until he completely washes out. I think Horton will be the number 2 by midseason. All teams have WRs that catch passes. Kupp and Horton and others will catch passes. But I don't see either commanding anything that threatens JSN share. I expect it to be shockingly high. Darnold and the LACK of other weapons to draw attention is my biggest concern.

Good post. I agree for the most part. I am under the mindset where the wr1 of team does better when he has a decent wr2 next to him. So as long as Kupp or Horton at least can keep the defense honest I'm good as a Jaxon owner. JSN's target share and numbers jumped pretty good from year 1 to year 2. I see another slight uptick heading into year 3. Just feels like 150 targets is his floor here.

 

[barackdhouse]

No barrier to #1 target domination.

Kupp seems like at least a minor barrier to domination. Are we even sure that he's washed?

No, but McVay seemed to be.

Without looking it up who is Seattle's #3 wr? I think as a Jaxon owner I don't want Kupp to be washed.

In my opinion it's going to be Kupp until he completely washes out. I think Horton will be the number 2 by midseason. All teams have WRs that catch passes. Kupp and Horton and others will catch passes. But I don't see either commanding anything that threatens JSN share. I expect it to be shockingly high. Darnold and the LACK of other weapons to draw attention is my biggest concern.

Good post. I agree for the most part. I am under the mindset where the wr1 of team does better when he has a decent wr2 next to him. So as long as Kupp or Horton at least can keep the defense honest I'm good as a Jaxon owner. JSN's target share and numbers jumped pretty good from year 1 to year 2. I see another slight uptick heading into year 3. Just feels like 150 targets is his floor here.

1 billion percent yes on the bolded. And find it hard to convey to many around here. I do think it hurts JSN to have weakness around him. I am hoping Arroyo becomes that big weapon that acts like a WR2. But if it is simply the JSN show then I do think that hurts him in terms of quality targets and TD upside. But the volume and accumulation of stats will be a boon IMO in that scenario.

And that all seems like a floor description to me. If Kupp/Horton/Arroyo is worth a dang then the TD upside should be there too.

 

[eighsse2]

No barrier to #1 target domination.

Kupp seems like at least a minor barrier to domination. Are we even sure that he's washed?

No, but McVay seemed to be.

Without looking it up who is Seattle's #3 wr? I think as a Jaxon owner I don't want Kupp to be washed.

In my opinion it's going to be Kupp until he completely washes out. I think Horton will be the number 2 by midseason. All teams have WRs that catch passes. Kupp and Horton and others will catch passes. But I don't see either commanding anything that threatens JSN share. I expect it to be shockingly high. Darnold and the LACK of other weapons to draw attention is my biggest concern.

Good post. I agree for the most part. I am under the mindset where the wr1 of team does better when he has a decent wr2 next to him. So as long as Kupp or Horton at least can keep the defense honest I'm good as a Jaxon owner. JSN's target share and numbers jumped pretty good from year 1 to year 2. I see another slight uptick heading into year 3. Just feels like 150 targets is his floor here.

1 billion percent yes on the bolded.

I have no idea what historic statistics bear out, but I generally don't agree. Unless "better" means "better production per target". Better for fantasy? Give me an alpha surrounded by a bunch of nobodies.

 

[FarFromHome]

Give me an alpha surrounded by a bunch of nobodies.

I get it. I just prefer my alpha to have other guys around him that can get 1st downs when my alpha is double teamed. I like the offense to keep getting redzone chances for my alpha. My alpha likes tds. Ha ha

 

[Desert_Power]

No barrier to #1 target domination.

Kupp seems like at least a minor barrier to domination. Are we even sure that he's washed?

No, but McVay seemed to be.

Without looking it up who is Seattle's #3 wr? I think as a Jaxon owner I don't want Kupp to be washed.

In my opinion it's going to be Kupp until he completely washes out. I think Horton will be the number 2 by midseason. All teams have WRs that catch passes. Kupp and Horton and others will catch passes. But I don't see either commanding anything that threatens JSN share. I expect it to be shockingly high. Darnold and the LACK of other weapons to draw attention is my biggest concern.

Good post. I agree for the most part. I am under the mindset where the wr1 of team does better when he has a decent wr2 next to him. So as long as Kupp or Horton at least can keep the defense honest I'm good as a Jaxon owner. JSN's target share and numbers jumped pretty good from year 1 to year 2. I see another slight uptick heading into year 3. Just feels like 150 targets is his floor here.

I'm pretty bullish on Horton and Kubiak. We'll see how Darnold can do.

 

[The Goose is Loose]

Any JSN owners concerned that Seattle could turn to Jalen Milroe in second half if season starts to get away from them?

 

[The Future Champs]

Any JSN owners concerned that Seattle could turn to Jalen Milroe in second half if season starts to get away from them?

Not really. I mean it could happen, just like JSN could get hit by a random meteorite, but it’s not something to worry about.

 

[kutta]

No barrier to #1 target domination.

Kupp seems like at least a minor barrier to domination. Are we even sure that he's washed?

No, but McVay seemed to be.

Without looking it up who is Seattle's #3 wr? I think as a Jaxon owner I don't want Kupp to be washed.

In my opinion it's going to be Kupp until he completely washes out. I think Horton will be the number 2 by midseason. All teams have WRs that catch passes. Kupp and Horton and others will catch passes. But I don't see either commanding anything that threatens JSN share. I expect it to be shockingly high. Darnold and the LACK of other weapons to draw attention is my biggest concern.

Good post. I agree for the most part. I am under the mindset where the wr1 of team does better when he has a decent wr2 next to him. So as long as Kupp or Horton at least can keep the defense honest I'm good as a Jaxon owner. JSN's target share and numbers jumped pretty good from year 1 to year 2. I see another slight uptick heading into year 3. Just feels like 150 targets is his floor here.

1 billion percent yes on the bolded. And find it hard to convey to many around here. I do think it hurts JSN to have weakness around him. I am hoping Arroyo becomes that big weapon that acts like a WR2. But if it is simply the JSN show then I do think that hurts him in terms of quality targets and TD upside. But the volume and accumulation of stats will be a boon IMO in that scenario.

And that all seems like a floor description to me. If Kupp/Horton/Arroyo is worth a dang then the TD upside should be there too.

I don't necessarily agree with this.

Kupp had his record setting season with no one around him. Lamb was the number one WR a couple years ago with no one else there. Chase has great games even when Higgins is out. Mike Evans consistently produces great when Godwin is out.
In fact, I cant think of a time when an uber stud suffered because he didn't have good WR's around him.

 

[-OZ-]

Better for fantasy? Give me an alpha surrounded by a bunch of nobodies.

The top 3 WRs last year all had good 2s, and a solid to great third option.

 

[eighsse2]

Better for fantasy? Give me an alpha surrounded by a bunch of nobodies.

The top 3 WRs last year all had good 2s, and a solid to great third option.

I guess I just remember CeeDee Lamb helping me win it all in 2023, when they didn't have a lot else. But, that's literally only one data point. But it was the best WR season I've ever had.

 

[Aznflyer14]

Any JSN owners concerned that Seattle could turn to Jalen Milroe in second half if season starts to get away from them?

Not really... Even if Milroe ends up being starting QB in latter end of the season, he would be smart enough to target JSN frequently to his reliable hands and precise route-running.

 

[TampaMike19]

Is this a matter of targets vs target quality? I am not sure he will get enough targets to pay off at ADP and his targets have historically been low quality. Maybe they utilize him down the field some more as Kubiak loves him a strong play action game, but who benefits down the field in this offense? Do they have any burners?

 

[Max55]

JXN was WR10 last year that included DK who missed some time, and the forever Tyler Lockett.

I don’t see much likelihood of JXN being targeted less than 2024.

If we want to argue Geno > Darnold then so be it but Darnold was QB7 last year. Yes he had JJ and a friendlier offensive scheme but still…..

 

[FarFromHome]

182 vacated targets. Added Kupp. Drafted Horton in the 5th as the 22nd wr off the board. Math for targets checks out. Wr1 locked and loaded.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

Rumor is Kupp looks good but I'm not buying him as a disruptor to JSN's target dominance. In fact, the best way to sell Kupp is to buy JSN and Horton, both of which I've done. FWIW, I'm hoping we can squeak JSN's ADOT up a little and Horton being able to be like MVS but with catching the ball, this will be a decent investment.

Between those two and KW3 who I bought in FBG home league #4, I have a lot of eggs in Seattle's basket. I'm telling myself that I'm not nervous about this. Not at all.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Any JSN owners concerned that Seattle could turn to Jalen Milroe in second half if season starts to get away from them?

Not really... Even if Milroe ends up being starting QB in latter end of the season, he would be smart enough to target JSN frequently to his reliable hands and precise route-running.

I would be surprised if we saw Milroe this season (starting anyhow). The SEA defense should be good enough to keep them in the mix the majority of the season, possible playoffs if Darnold can be adequate. Milroe really needs a year (or two) to develop.

 

[steelerfan1]

Better for fantasy? Give me an alpha surrounded by a bunch of nobodies.

The top 3 WRs last year all had good 2s, and a solid to great third option.

I love a good #2

 

[rockaction]

I think it would be already a nadir if Milroe was taking snaps for Seattle this year. He ain’t ready. There’s no coaxing wins out of him yet.

 

[KellysHeroes]

JXN was WR10 last year that included DK who missed some time, and the forever Tyler Lockett.

I don’t see much likelihood of JXN being targeted less than 2024.

If we want to argue Geno > Darnold then so be it but Darnold was QB7 last year. Yes he had JJ and a friendlier offensive scheme but still…..

I would happily draft last yrs WR10 around WR15

3rd Yr Breakout myth
Better QB
Lesser competition for targets (sorry Kupp fans)

only negative is the staff wants to run more... but 97% of the teams say this and still put up Madden numbers

 

[-OZ-]

Better QB

Are you actually convinced of this or just hopeful?

 

[greenmountaingoat]

Better QB

Are you actually convinced of this or just hopeful?

Not to answer for KH but for me, I consider them a wash. Both have plenty of arm to air it out and would theoretically fit well in a play action scheme. I think Geno probably deals with pressure a little better but that's more from not having heard the same narratives that have haunted (patriots fan representing-- boo lol) Darnold.

Simmons had the ringer ff guys on his pod and Danny K (Seahawks fan) was discussing that the rookie LG seems to have made a big difference up the middle. All of that is to say that if the interior of Seattle's line can be a little more stout, this should in theory offset some of the potential for Darnold to be a legit downgrade from Geno. If Seattle can't protect Darnold, we all know where this is going.

 

[Aznflyer14]

Any JSN owners concerned that Seattle could turn to Jalen Milroe in second half if season starts to get away from them?

Not really... Even if Milroe ends up being starting QB in latter end of the season, he would be smart enough to target JSN frequently to his reliable hands and precise route-running.

I would be surprised if we saw Milroe this season (starting anyhow). The SEA defense should be good enough to keep them in the mix the majority of the season, possible playoffs if Darnold can be adequate. Milroe really needs a year (or two) to develop.

Agreed on the need for him to sit and learn behind the veteran starters. He may be mostly physically-talent player but his QB skills are still raw. He has much to learn and he openly admitted it. I have no doubt on his supreme work ethic.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Any JSN owners concerned that Seattle could turn to Jalen Milroe in second half if season starts to get away from them?

Not really... Even if Milroe ends up being starting QB in latter end of the season, he would be smart enough to target JSN frequently to his reliable hands and precise route-running.

I would be surprised if we saw Milroe this season (starting anyhow). The SEA defense should be good enough to keep them in the mix the majority of the season, possible playoffs if Darnold can be adequate. Milroe really needs a year (or two) to develop.

Agreed on the need for him to sit and learn behind the veteran starters. He may be mostly physically-talent player but his QB skills are still raw. He has much to learn and he openly admitted it. I have no doubt on his supreme work ethic.

Not to derail too much, but his quick release is at a rare level. If he can ever put it all together he will be a blast to watch. JSN seems like a safe pick this year, not confident Kupp can stay healthy for the year. Not sure if that is good or bad for JSN, but more reason to like Horton.