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WR Jaylen Waddle, MIA (4 Viewers)
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Cowboysfan8
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joey
Footballguy
+1
Started E Moore WR Cle , who had been on a tear, over Waddle this week. And of course, Thursday night game on the west coast so it’s not like I had time to really research the weather or anything since, like, some of us work.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Actually still started him in one dynasty league as didn’t have any alternative, and benched him in my re-draft league where I’ll probably lose. Still… signs of life is at least good
So I have seen the Offensive line issues addressed in this thread and we all can do the math on a Tua injury valley (for the whole offense) but are there any Miami fans here that have heard about anything underlying that ties to Waddle's performance? Nagging injury, philosophical dispute, no motor once the big contract was signed, etc...? I'm trying to tie a read onto a metric and this one just feels enigmatic right now.
TartanLion
Footballguy
So I have seen the Offensive line issues addressed in this thread and we all can do the math on a Tua injury valley (for the whole offense) but are there any Miami fans here that have heard about anything underlying that ties to Waddle's performance? Nagging injury, philosophical dispute, no motor once the big contract was signed, etc...? I'm trying to tie a read onto a metric and this one just feels enigmatic right now.
Personally I just think they have lent on getting the ball out quick to Jonnu Smith and Achane, plus they prioritise getting Hill the ball downfield. For what it’s worth Matt Harmon says Waddle is still amazing but they don’t design specific plays for him like they do Hill so he just gets what he gets when Tua sees he’s open on standard routes. Work ethic is there ( see Tua and Waddle interview after his good game a few weeks ago ). I’ve also seen games where they have tried to get him involved and it doesn’t quite show up on the box score as the plays haven’t quite come off
-jb-
Footballguy
Defenses are playing them back a bit, which limits Hill and Waddles chances on the more impactful plays. I guess within McDaniel's system, that opens things up more for Jonnu. That said, I would call that poor adjustments on his part. Wouldn't you rather the YAC come from Hill/Waddle over Jonnu? They're faster and more explosive. Run more bubble screens or quick slants whenever you see the DBs playing back. I honestly haven't watched enough to see what adjustments are being made, but if you think about how the Chiefs were using Rice once DBs were consistently playing back it would be the question in Miami.So I have seen the Offensive line issues addressed in this thread and we all can do the math on a Tua injury valley (for the whole offense) but are there any Miami fans here that have heard about anything underlying that ties to Waddle's performance? Nagging injury, philosophical dispute, no motor once the big contract was signed, etc...? I'm trying to tie a read onto a metric and this one just feels enigmatic right now.
Personally I just think they have lent on getting the ball out quick to Jonnu Smith and Achane, plus they prioritise getting Hill the ball downfield. For what it’s worth Matt Harmon says Waddle is still amazing but they don’t design specific plays for him like they do Hill so he just gets what he gets when Tua sees he’s open on standard routes. Work ethic is there ( see Tua and Waddle interview after his good game a few weeks ago ). I’ve also seen games where they have tried to get him involved and it doesn’t quite show up on the box score as the plays haven’t quite come off
I think you are spot on and things are not going a lot better for Hill. I've been saying for awhile I don't think this has anything to do with protecting Tua from hits.Defenses are playing them back a bit, which limits Hill and Waddles chances on the more impactful plays. I guess within McDaniel's system, that opens things up more for Jonnu. That said, I would call that poor adjustments on his part. Wouldn't you rather the YAC come from Hill/Waddle over Jonnu? They're faster and more explosive. Run more bubble screens or quick slants whenever you see the DBs playing back. I honestly haven't watched enough to see what adjustments are being made, but if you think about how the Chiefs were using Rice once DBs were consistently playing back it would be the question in Miami.So I have seen the Offensive line issues addressed in this thread and we all can do the math on a Tua injury valley (for the whole offense) but are there any Miami fans here that have heard about anything underlying that ties to Waddle's performance? Nagging injury, philosophical dispute, no motor once the big contract was signed, etc...? I'm trying to tie a read onto a metric and this one just feels enigmatic right now.
Personally I just think they have lent on getting the ball out quick to Jonnu Smith and Achane, plus they prioritise getting Hill the ball downfield. For what it’s worth Matt Harmon says Waddle is still amazing but they don’t design specific plays for him like they do Hill so he just gets what he gets when Tua sees he’s open on standard routes. Work ethic is there ( see Tua and Waddle interview after his good game a few weeks ago ). I’ve also seen games where they have tried to get him involved and it doesn’t quite show up on the box score as the plays haven’t quite come off
On one hand I want to be critical of McDaniel for failing to adjust. I want to say stuff like if I'm Stephen Ross I want answers to why I'm paying two WR's over $60m a year if you are just going to allow teams to mitigate them without much of a fight.
The counter to all of that is the offense has been working. I'm sure some of these a defensive scoring TD in here but since Tua returned they've scored 27,27,23,34, 34 and 17 points. One sub 23 point game in a very cold weather Thursday game. I can't really quibble with the end results.
-jb-
Footballguy
just wild stuff right here.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Consistent signs of life now !!
daveR
Footballguy
If I were the DC, I'd play MIA like teams are playing KC. That would turn Jonnu into Kelce.Defenses are playing them back a bit, which limits Hill and Waddles chances on the more impactful plays. I guess within McDaniel's system, that opens things up more for Jonnu. That said, I would call that poor adjustments on his part. Wouldn't you rather the YAC come from Hill/Waddle over Jonnu? They're faster and more explosive. Run more bubble screens or quick slants whenever you see the DBs playing back. I honestly haven't watched enough to see what adjustments are being made, but if you think about how the Chiefs were using Rice once DBs were consistently playing back it would be the question in Miami.So I have seen the Offensive line issues addressed in this thread and we all can do the math on a Tua injury valley (for the whole offense) but are there any Miami fans here that have heard about anything underlying that ties to Waddle's performance? Nagging injury, philosophical dispute, no motor once the big contract was signed, etc...? I'm trying to tie a read onto a metric and this one just feels enigmatic right now.
Personally I just think they have lent on getting the ball out quick to Jonnu Smith and Achane, plus they prioritise getting Hill the ball downfield. For what it’s worth Matt Harmon says Waddle is still amazing but they don’t design specific plays for him like they do Hill so he just gets what he gets when Tua sees he’s open on standard routes. Work ethic is there ( see Tua and Waddle interview after his good game a few weeks ago ). I’ve also seen games where they have tried to get him involved and it doesn’t quite show up on the box score as the plays haven’t quite come off
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Jaylen Waddle, Weeks 1-11: 8.0 PPR points per game
Weeks 12-14: 20.2 PPR points per game
Weeks 12-14: 20.2 PPR points per game
nittanylion
Footballguy
At one point, Waddle had 100 yards receiving on MFL, which is a 3-point plateau in my local high-stakes League.
For some reason, it was adjusted to 99 at some point later.
I lost a big game (bye week playoff seeding on the line), by 1 point.
Anyone know what happened?
For some reason, it was adjusted to 99 at some point later.
I lost a big game (bye week playoff seeding on the line), by 1 point.
Anyone know what happened?
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Seriously- massive headache of a fantasy player to have
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah, I am done with this guy. One of the most overrated fantasy players in recent memory.
