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107 pagesWheelsUp said:
Man, I was all ready to start Ginn until watching that clip. Now I’m on the fence again. My playoff life is on the line.Soulfly3 said:
3 catches for 45 yards and no touchdowns sounds like they think he's going to pick up right where he left off in the last three regular season games he played.
He played his record breaking 2013 season under the influence also. Perhaps by 2014, the damage was done.
I don't recall, but perhaps he had Soufly3 throwing to him in 2014?
Gabbert is arguably playing better than Alex Smith right now.
A sober for the first time ever on the field Josh Gordon should be a better player than a Josh Gordon impaired by alcohol and weed. Watch out league!
It’s a tough call for sure. You know Smith is going to take deep shots to Hill, because that’s pretty much all Hill is good for these days. That and the occasional run for a 4 yard loss.
That is a tough question to answer. First, those are big ifs in staying clean and returns to form after an almost what is it 3 year layoff? Certainly his value will spike from today but if you are ever going to sell I think it's an almost given you would have to apply a risk of relapse price adjustment. Even if he came in and put up WR1 numbers the rest of the season I would have a hard time paying a top 10 rookie pick for him. I think his rookie pick value might fall in the late round 1 to a strong team willing to take a chance on him to something later and that again is if he came in and put up WR1 numbers from here to the end of the season.
Also context matters.
One time to say this today. And this goes for everyone too. If you want to post here, make your point and stop the shots at the people who don't agree with you.
Fitz is Fitz and even in a bad game he was still targeted eight times. He is the first, second and last option in the passing game for Arizona and in a PPR he should pretty much be an auto-start regardless of who the QB is...unless it's Kizer.
Maybe so but that's a broad brush that includes everything from heroin to gambling. From homeless junkies thrown into county lock-up and forced to clean out their systems to people with resources and strong support groups. From Cris Carter to Justin Blackmon.
Agreed it's a complex dynamic. Few addicts have the support Gordon has. Few addicts have the financial incentives to stay sober as well. Although it's not unprecedented. On the flip side, few addicts are presented with the temptations and opportunities to get back off track as Gordon. It's the blessing / curse of money sometimes.
Damage was done? You focus a ton on his last few games he played in 2014 but the damage that was already done did not stop him from 8/120 and 7/75 the first two games he returned that season. I guess you think all the damage that was done to him did not bother him weeks 12 and 13 of that season but all those years of hard living just finally caught him right at week 14?
I don't know man. I played my best basketball when I was in that sweet spot. I called it "Basketball High". It's like really really high, but not too high. I was unguardable.
Sorry to go off course here but everytime I see those Browns practice video's I find myself fascinated by the houses, with the easy views of practice. I would think a lot of teams that don't practice indoors have some kind of vantage point that someone could seek out to see practice, not all but a lot, but is there another team in the NFL where people can sit just sit upstairs in their house with a nice view of practice? Has there ever been a concern that other teams could spy on their practice with ease? I'm far from a Browns fan but I think it would be awesome, like living in Wrigleyville during baseball season, to be able to just sit around my house watching an NFL team practice, but maybe it's just me.
