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WR Josh Gordon, KC (5 Viewers)
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Todem
Footballguy
He will be done by week 8 and that is a stretch.
And he has been given too many chances. It's ridiculous. I am sorry. So many other players that work their ### off and walk the line straight....and they keep giving this kid chances. He needs to focus on simply staying clean. Handling the pressures of being a professional athlete is way beyond his wiring IMO.
Good luck to him in his life. His NFL football life will be over shortly. Matter of time. Ticking time bomb.
If he proves me wrong it will be a hell of a story.
And Callaway is also another.......matter of time. He will be out of the league in no time as well. 2 cent head.
And he has been given too many chances. It's ridiculous. I am sorry. So many other players that work their ### off and walk the line straight....and they keep giving this kid chances. He needs to focus on simply staying clean. Handling the pressures of being a professional athlete is way beyond his wiring IMO.
Good luck to him in his life. His NFL football life will be over shortly. Matter of time. Ticking time bomb.
If he proves me wrong it will be a hell of a story.
And Callaway is also another.......matter of time. He will be out of the league in no time as well. 2 cent head.
Todem
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
So glad I avoided this train wreck in both my leagues. Good luck to anyone who failed to dodge that bullet.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
If “TDs” is gordon’s nickname for bong hits, give me the over.
Jokes aside, how’s the hammy?
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I mean it depends on how you define shortly. He'll be turning 28 this year, he probably only has 2-3 years left to prove himself regardless.
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
Is it possible that his hamstring isn't really injured? Is it possible that the Browns are playing possum with the Steelers? Their arch rivals....Imagine Josh Gordon with single coverage
oh lord... it's game over for these fools.
Because of "injury" there's no film on Josh Gordon playing football since last year.
We know he is playing at 30 pounds lighter than last year. Burleson compared Gordon to Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson. What does Nate Burleson know? He played with both Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson.
Hamstrings are tricky. Often reoccurring. Gordon plays on the edge of disaster.
The suspense on how he is going to perform is fantastic!
3 TDs first game against the Steelers....
Soulfly3
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Haley implies that he's not waiting on Gordon in the latest episode of Hard Knocks. I wonder if Gordon can turn 100 targets into 1,000 yards.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I-i don’t know if I can handle this topic for another season, man.
jokes aside, I do hope Gordon has gotten his life together. No matter what he’s done off the field in the past, ya gotta respect the transformation. It’s quite a story.
jokes aside, I do hope Gordon has gotten his life together. No matter what he’s done off the field in the past, ya gotta respect the transformation. It’s quite a story.
JuniorGong
Footballguy
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greedygoat
Footballguy
Snagged him at 5.08 over the weekend.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
i wonder if part of his success was being on drugs. I think part of his success was getting high in his free time to clear his mind so he could perform on the field.
Without herb he might not be able to handle things. The mental part of the NFL is huge. Now that he can't get high he might never be able to perform at the level he did when he was toking up.
Without herb he might not be able to handle things. The mental part of the NFL is huge. Now that he can't get high he might never be able to perform at the level he did when he was toking up.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It’s been posited here before. It’s certainly possible.
What it sounds like is he has / had some mental instability and was self-medicating with drugs &’alcohol.
For Gordon’s sake, I hope he’s getting the help he needs & is learning to get by in life without doing drugs, regardless of how well he plays football or not.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Took him at 5.04. I’m in!!!
He was going higher when he was MIA. Now that cloud has blown away and we're left with a gimpy WR so out of shape he couldn't finish a 1/2 a week of practice without fullypulling a hammy. His ADP seems to be drifting higher. Honestly Gordon was a lot more valuable when suspended. You couldn't start him and usually had multiple guys on the bench who would out produce him.
matuski
Footballguy
I don't believe Josh was ever lauded for his football smarts. He was lauded for being bigger stronger faster than everyone else. By all reports that is still the case. Unless a football flying through the air is going to make him think of his favorite brownies and induce crying... he should be good.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Survivor7700
Footballguy
Josh Gordon has so much talent. I hope he can stay on the field and showcase it.
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I am actively trying to unload him before the next situation occurs. Nobody is biting though....
Soulfly3
Footballguy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Grabbed him at 5.01 Friday night in a 12-team PPR. I had finished a dynasty draft and was feeling some withdrawal, so jumped into a random public ESPN league. Took Ingram at 4.12 and Gordon at 5.01, and Bell at 1.01. NO RISK NO REWARD.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Marijuana has been used for it’s calming effect for those who suffer forms of anxiety, and is also used to combat depression.
Many who self medicate with harder drugs or alcohol are doing so in attempt to mitigate these issues, but end up compounding them with addiction to depressants (pills/alcohol/etc).
because marijuana is non-addictive, and does not impair coordination it’s a much more desirable alternative to some of the prescription medications used for the same, though the “legal/illegal” designation, depending on what state one lives in is used as the determining factor for prescription.
My concern for Gordon on this topic is that perhaps he’s been prescribed a pharmacological antidepressant - in which case there may be side effects that could impact his on-field play.
This is purely speculative - I’m speaking in generalities as I have no idea whether Gordon is on anything or completely clean. I’ve known folks who’ve gone to rehab & required a pharmacological solution for their depression/anxiety. I’ve known others who turned to yoga or meditation as a solution.
I’m just saying it’s not out of the question that Gordon’s performance is impacted by his newfound sobriety.
Football aside, I continue to root for this young man’s recovery. I wish pot were legal nationally so Gordon (and others) could have a relatively harmless treatment available without the liver-trashing & other physiological side-effects of pills.
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Keith1
Footballguy
Neither of these statements are true.Hot Sauce Guy said:
Marijuana is most certainly psychologically addictive, and there are absolutely physical withdrawal symptoms when chronic users quit cold turkey. As for it not impairing coordination, if you have ever driven a car when stoned, you would know that is not correct.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Marijuana is not physically addictive.
you have your opinions. Not facts.
I’ve driven plenty of times baked back when I was younger - coordination is just fine. If anything I slowed down and drove more carefully & focused. I haven’t done it in more than a decade, but I smoked plenty back in my day.
And I also played fingerstyle blues & ragtime guitar, shot pool semi-professionally, and played tons of video games. Coordination is not impaired in the slightest.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about here. But you’re welcome to your (incorrect) opinion.
Keith1
Footballguy
LMAO. OK. My "opinions" are based on personal, first-hand experience. I smoked daily for 30+ years (maybe I missed 10-15 days a year) and then quit cold turkey 18 months ago. If you don't think your coordination is impaired while driving stoned, well then there is not much I can say to change your mind. Just because you drive slower and THINK you are being more careful, does not make it so. And I can assure you, there absolutely were physical reactions when I stopped. That said, best thing I ever did in my life. But the first 2-3 weeks when I went cold turkey were hell. If you had a different experience, well then I congratulate you.Marijuana is not physically addictive.
you have your opinions. Not facts.
I’ve driven plenty of times baked back when I was younger - coordination is just fine. If anything I slowed down and drove more carefully & focused. I haven’t done it in more than a decade, but I smoked plenty back in my day.
And I also played fingerstyle blues & ragtime guitar, shot pool semi-professionally, and played tons of video games. Coordination is not impaired in the slightest.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about here. But you’re welcome to your (incorrect) opinion.
For what it’s worth, it took only a minute or two reading results of a google search on “marijuana impaired driving” to find ample links to legitimate peer-reviewed journals asserting that marijuana does impair basic motor function.
The primary caveat in some is that, because it has less effect on one’s self-awareness than alcohol, users are better able to self-adjust driving behavior to lessen risk when under the influence of canabis. (HSG’s anecdotal accounts of changing his driving habits when baked is an excellent example of this.)
But it seems that calling the idea that there is impairment “not a fact” requires an odd definition of facts. (Please don’t turn that last phrase into a political debate...)
The primary caveat in some is that, because it has less effect on one’s self-awareness than alcohol, users are better able to self-adjust driving behavior to lessen risk when under the influence of canabis. (HSG’s anecdotal accounts of changing his driving habits when baked is an excellent example of this.)
But it seems that calling the idea that there is impairment “not a fact” requires an odd definition of facts. (Please don’t turn that last phrase into a political debate...)
massraider
Footballguy
It's not addictive. The end.
Psychologically addictive? To who? You?
Who cares.
When talking addiction, you can talk nicotine, heroin, sugar, alcohol.
I'm sure the two weeks you were a little more on edge was 'hell' ?, but coming off real addiction is something different.
rockaction
Footballguy
I love stories about risk and reward and valuing the values. Two shining examples.Long Ball Larry said:
Mine: 5th or 6th round in Summerpalooza 16-teamer.
3rd rd. in Anarchy League number 6
Main Event comes the fifth for my main league.
LET'S GO!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Medical science disagrees with you.
Paychological addiction, maybe.
No one is physically addicted. I smoked for 20 years - got a job where I got tested. Quit cold turkey for 6 mo’s with ZERO impact.
But we’re all wired differently.
my point though was that it’s a better alternative than pills. You clearly missed that.
Have a nice day.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
We all have our experiences - you can also find plenty of evidence & medical opinion that it doesn’t impair motor skills.
remember that some of what you google has a bias - with regard to THC it’s often because the pharma industry would rather put you on pils.
So there’s a lot of bull#### out there, even published in medical journals.
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Shawnky
Footballguy
mnmplayer
Footballguy
The problem with your assertion is the lack of controlled experiment. To know for sure if you were impaired to a detrimental effect, you would need an identical twin to play the same video game or test drive or shoot pool or whatever assertion you are trying to make (while you were impaired by the way. Sorry bud, your argument can't hold water. a 3rd party would be required to measure results vs being non impaired, not first hand experience.Marijuana is not physically addictive.
you have your opinions. Not facts.
I’ve driven plenty of times baked back when I was younger - coordination is just fine. If anything I slowed down and drove more carefully & focused. I haven’t done it in more than a decade, but I smoked plenty back in my day.
And I also played fingerstyle blues & ragtime guitar, shot pool semi-professionally, and played tons of video games. Coordination is not impaired in the slightest.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about here. But you’re welcome to your (incorrect) opinion.
It may be that you would have play4ed even better semi-pro pool if you were not high. Drunk drivers that make it home ok and claim they can drink safely and drive use the same mantra. Just cos you made it home doesn't mean it was a safe or wise decision to drive drunk, and is certainly not an argument for "driving drunk safely".
pantherclub
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I think this thread immolated somehow and I'm confused -- like a dog.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
It actually is. Many people suffer physical withdrawal symptoms when they stop cold. That is factual based on evidence. Also based on what I have seen first hand.
You just learned something new, so now you dont have to sound so ignorant while trying to trash others on this subject.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Oh, and I am not trashing marijuana here. I think it should not only be legal but ENCOURAGED in many cases rather than other substances.
But, as an RN in the field of psychiatry and drug/alcohol rehab, you are mistaken if you think marijuana is not both psychologically and physically addictive for many people out there.
Levels of withdrawal vary from person to person with a huge range of severity of symptoms.
But, as an RN in the field of psychiatry and drug/alcohol rehab, you are mistaken if you think marijuana is not both psychologically and physically addictive for many people out there.
Levels of withdrawal vary from person to person with a huge range of severity of symptoms.
