If they were to, it would have made more sense to do it immediately after Julio's diagnosis and going into the BYE so that Gordon would have a chance to get semi up-to-speed and integrated into the offense. I suppose it's not outside the realm of possibility, but it has already been denied by the organization.Could anyone see Atlanta jumping in?
I was at the buffalo game, first noticed it, but I was half in the bag, been looking for it since.The last two games were disgusting efforts.Is this the first time people have seen Gordon dogging it?
I've noticed the same the last few weeks.calls for the sideline before a key third down, short arms the desperation fourth down, not focusing falling down over and over again, jogs off the line on runs and screens not to him, quits on the play when weeden is forced to scramble.Ability only matters if you care.I don't, but I will second what MAC said. His body language looked terrible the entire game. You never know if someone has personal issues going on, or maybe they just aren't feeling well, but it looked like he would have rather been anyplace else.You have any linkage for the slacking issues you've mentioned?will he start playing harder somewhere else?Can any situation be better than Cleveland? Or could he be traded somewhere where his value will actually go down?
Don't think he is being moved <_<A source tells ProFootballTalk that a Josh Gordon trade is "possible" but not "probable."
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Chudzinski news conf: Campbell will start at QB
I didn't think Campbell's arm was that great. He's basically a poor version of Captain Checkdown.https://twitter.com/viccarucci/status/393027273664004096
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Chudzinski news conf: Campbell will start at QB![]()
ETA: While I think Campbell has the arm and vertical game to keep Gordon in the WR2 status, it just can't be good for him to keep switching QB's... chemistry and all. We'll see... honestly, it's probably for the best. Weeden would have been murdered by the KC defensive front 7.
He checks down a lot, but he can get the ball down field too. If I remember correctly his read progression is often down field then where's the bail out. He chooses option #2 too often, but he chooses option #1 enough to make the big play threat useful.I didn't think Campbell's arm was that great. He's basically a poor version of Captain Checkdown.https://twitter.com/viccarucci/status/393027273664004096
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Chudzinski news conf: Campbell will start at QB![]()
ETA: While I think Campbell has the arm and vertical game to keep Gordon in the WR2 status, it just can't be good for him to keep switching QB's... chemistry and all. We'll see... honestly, it's probably for the best. Weeden would have been murdered by the KC defensive front 7.
hes not accurate for the deep ball, he has the arm but he will look like freeman out there.. im expecting Cameron to be his favorite target at least for this weekHe checks down a lot, but he can get the ball down field too. If I remember correctly his read progression is often down field then where's the bail out. He chooses option #2 too often, but he chooses option #1 enough to make the big play threat useful.I didn't think Campbell's arm was that great. He's basically a poor version of Captain Checkdown.https://twitter.com/viccarucci/status/393027273664004096
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Chudzinski news conf: Campbell will start at QB![]()
ETA: While I think Campbell has the arm and vertical game to keep Gordon in the WR2 status, it just can't be good for him to keep switching QB's... chemistry and all. We'll see... honestly, it's probably for the best. Weeden would have been murdered by the KC defensive front 7.
Coming out of Auburn in 2004, yeah.Didn't Campbell have one of the strongest arms in the league at one point?
Browns CEO Joe Banner was noncommittal on the possibility of a Josh Gordon trade, but insisted he'd be "completely shocked" if Gordon were dealt before the October 29 deadline.
The deadline is next Tuesday at 4PM ET. "If you’re in this long enough, you learn to never say anything absolute, because then something comes up and you look like you lied," Banner said. "I personally — and I think anybody here — would be completely shocked if we ended up trading him. Josh is playing great. He’s working his butt off." National media reports generally say a Gordon trade is possible, but likely will not happen. We still wouldn't bet against it.
Source: Akron Beacon-Journal
ESPN's Adam Caplan also posted this yesterday --- "On #Browns WR Josh Gordon, he's been on the trade block for several weeks, source said. Banner wants him out, very clear, source said."Rotoworld:
Browns CEO Joe Banner was noncommittal on the possibility of a Josh Gordon trade, but insisted he'd be "completely shocked" if Gordon were dealt before the October 29 deadline.
The deadline is next Tuesday at 4PM ET. "If you’re in this long enough, you learn to never say anything absolute, because then something comes up and you look like you lied," Banner said. "I personally — and I think anybody here — would be completely shocked if we ended up trading him. Josh is playing great. He’s working his butt off." National media reports generally say a Gordon trade is possible, but likely will not happen. We still wouldn't bet against it.
Source: Akron Beacon-Journal
I think it's clear what's happening here....The Browns want to trade Josh Gordon. It seems like they're leveraging and posturing to try and get the best deal that they can.... But that's just me.ESPN's Adam Caplan also posted this yesterday --- "On #Browns WR Josh Gordon, he's been on the trade block for several weeks, source said. Banner wants him out, very clear, source said."Rotoworld:
Browns CEO Joe Banner was noncommittal on the possibility of a Josh Gordon trade, but insisted he'd be "completely shocked" if Gordon were dealt before the October 29 deadline.
The deadline is next Tuesday at 4PM ET. "If you’re in this long enough, you learn to never say anything absolute, because then something comes up and you look like you lied," Banner said. "I personally — and I think anybody here — would be completely shocked if we ended up trading him. Josh is playing great. He’s working his butt off." National media reports generally say a Gordon trade is possible, but likely will not happen. We still wouldn't bet against it.
Source: Akron Beacon-Journal
HELL yes. Crabtree looked like a bust when Smith was his QB. When Kap took over, he bordered on STUD status.Do you guys think 49ers would bode well for his fantasy outlook?
As a Gordon owner.... Yuck.Rumor
Jets are offering a 3rd and DB Kyle Wilson.
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Will never happen. Insulting offer.As a Gordon owner.... Yuck.Rumor
Jets are offering a 3rd and DB Kyle Wilson.
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Browns OC Norval Turner believes trade rumors could be affecting Josh Gordon's play.
"I would hope not, but I’m realistic to know that it does," Turner said Thursday. "He’s a young guy. He’s not very experienced. He wasn’t the go-to guy as a young player, so this is all a new thing for him. I think when you add those things to it, it can affect him. Obviously, we’re doing our best to focus and let him understand that he’s our guy, and we want him to be as good as he can get." Gordon is coming off his first dud of the season, but Brandon Weeden's play was the culprit. The Browns' switch to Jason Campbell has fantasy owners nervous, but averaging 16.7 yards per catch and 90 yards per game, Gordon is still very much a WR2.
Source: Akron Beacon-Journal
Ha, what about going from Hoyer to Weeden and now to Campbell? A downgrade each time, plus the loss of timing and synergy between Gordon and his QB.Rotoworld:
Browns OC Norval Turner believes trade rumors could be affecting Josh Gordon's play.
"I would hope not, but I’m realistic to know that it does," Turner said Thursday. "He’s a young guy. He’s not very experienced. He wasn’t the go-to guy as a young player, so this is all a new thing for him. I think when you add those things to it, it can affect him. Obviously, we’re doing our best to focus and let him understand that he’s our guy, and we want him to be as good as he can get." Gordon is coming off his first dud of the season, but Brandon Weeden's play was the culprit. The Browns' switch to Jason Campbell has fantasy owners nervous, but averaging 16.7 yards per catch and 90 yards per game, Gordon is still very much a WR2.
Source: Akron Beacon-Journal
It's more than likely leaked by Schefter IMOLOL @ the Jets.
guaranteed that was leaked by the Browns to show potential suitors offers they are PISSING on.
nice moveJust traded AP and Gordon for JCharles in a redraft league. Saw a chance to get out of two potential train wrecks.