I'm a fan and defender of Gordon but I would not be at all surprised if he tried.Maybe so but hard to believe something saying he was trying to outrun a drone at 45 MPH.
Nice avatarBingo. I mean some of these people are clearly investing waaaay too much of themselves on this hobby. For instance, there are people with 48,460 posts and counting on a fantasy football message board for crissakes.
I get paid by the warning pointsI get paid by the post.
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Aaaaaaand...you can never go home again?No way. He's from Texas
I was going to say this....for 658 yards and 2 TDs in 11 games. I'm a Browns fan too. I'm sure he'll be my sandwich artist soon.488 pages about a dude who has caught a grand total of 43 passes since 2013. Why are you guys doing this to yourselves?
He was drafted in the second round of one of my leagues. By someone who is a good, solid, knowledgeable owner. I guess I just don’t get it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯I was going to say this....for 658 yards and 2 TDs in 11 games. I'm a Browns fan too. I'm sure he'll be my sandwich artist soon.
Hurts. It can only hurt.This is nuts.
I just finished up my festival for the day/night, check the news and this?
Wonder if this helps or hurts Tyrod Taylor’s outlook tomorrow.
I think it actually might help. All I've heard on local radio all week is how the guy never runs the right routes and this was before whatever happened yesterday. He only had 3 targets last week.This is nuts.
I just finished up my festival for the day/night, check the news and this?
Wonder if this helps or hurts Tyrod Taylor’s outlook tomorrow.
lolHurts. It can only hurt.
He could put up 500 yards & 5 TDs tomorrow and we would all know with absolute certainty that with Gordon it would have been 10,009 yards and 642TDs.
Schefter is reporting he’s not subject to waivers because he is a vested veteran.He's subject to waivers, everyone is until they are vested veterans (4 accrued seasons, so anyone that's reached UFA status). Media/people tend to use released/waived interchangeably when it's not entirely accurate.
We all know where this winds up. It's sad. I spend months planning for FF, so you can say I'm invested in his recovery. He's on every one of my rosters. I pull for the guy. But that emoticon is the only one we need right now.
Yep. That's what Roto, who cited Schefter, is reporting.Schefter is reporting he’s not subject to waivers because he is a vested veteran.
We’re still talking about the Browns right?So am I to believe that it is actually a possibility that Gordon has not failed a drug test and the Browns just got tired of being concerned about his potential for a relapse AND THEN instead of trying to put out trade feelers under the radar and create a market for him they publicly announced they were going to release him on Monday and then let the bidding war begin? On a Saturday afternoon/evening?
I guess a bidding war is a bidding war but it seems odd that they would self impose a deadline and limit their options like that.
Get better quality and you'll work your way up to by the word status.I get paid by the post.
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No clue why he would be, vested veterans are those that have 4 accrued seasons, which would have also made him a UFA after last season and not the ERFA he's been widely publicized about being saddled with. Unless there's an obscure provision of the CBA in play here (one was recently brought up to me about players for which the team gets a roster exemption) I don't see why this would be the case.Schefter is reporting he’s not subject to waivers because he is a vested veteran.
This guys career the last few years has been an obscure provision. I'm not surprised that his FA situation is unclear.No clue why he would be, vested veterans are those that have 4 accrued seasons, which would have also made him a UFA after last season and not the ERFA he's been widely publicized about being saddled with. Unless there's an obscure provision of the CBA in play here (one was recently brought up to me about players for which the team gets a roster exemption) I don't see why this would be the case.
First, no matter how you cut it up, as far as Cleveland goes, it is a shame and a disappointment.It seems like it would be in his best interest to retire from football and get out of the spotlight. Seek long term help and focus on his creative side (seems to have talent in that category).
He didn't fail a drug test. He was late for a meeting and pulled a hamstring (allegedly).Cannabis is less addictive than sugar. He just didn't care enough about football, and maybe the millions he will never see. That's not a tragedy. It's a waste. Big deal.
The hope of some Josh Gordon fans is some of the strongest hope in the world.First, no matter how you cut it up, as far as Cleveland goes, it is a shame and a disappointment.
However.
He is going to be traded. According to Schefter, there are "at least" 5 teams that were immediately interested in trading for him.
We are all talking as if he failed a drug test, but he did not. In the right structure, in the right situation (lets say, not a team that hasn't won in 2 years), Josh Gordon can still rebound. As long as all this change doesn't result in a relapse.
But I ain't cutting him off my roster just yet. If he lands in, lets say NE, his boom side goes higher. If he only runs two routes, then NE will only use him for two routes. And they have the structure, discipline and accountability that he may need at this point of his rehabilitation.
Schefter is on now.
One, we don't know for sure what happened but it does not sound conclusively like it was drug or alcohol related.There's going to be a rising tide of:
"Don't dance on someone's grave/this is an addiction/he needs help" yada yada yada.
We need to beat that down. For one thing, the Schadenfreude is directed at owners who held this dummy for FIVE years, or keep drafting him. Not towards Gordon. Well, there will be some people that will feel that way, but that'll be the usual ####heads.
Cannabis is less addictive than sugar. He just didn't care enough about football, and maybe the millions he will never see. That's not a tragedy. It's a waste. Big deal.
Gordon is not a tragic character. He's a dummy. He can go on and raise a family, maybe he'll be giving pep talks to high schools in a few years. Have a great life, no reason he can't.
So spare us the bleeding heart Behind the Music script. This story is about Gordon wasting good talent, and the owners who spent half a decade wasting resources on him.
He didn't fail a drug test. He was late for a meeting. He isn't out of the NFL. He is off the Browns.The hope of some Josh Gordon fans is some of the strongest hope in the world.
Addiction to Josh Gordon, however, is unkickable.He didn't fail a drug test. He was late for a meeting and pulled a hamstring (allegedly).Cannabis is less addictive than sugar. He just didn't care enough about football, and maybe the millions he will never see. That's not a tragedy. It's a waste. Big deal.
Ok so after re-reading the CBA I think I agree with this. If anyone is as OCD/anal retentive as I am wants to know why, just PM me so I don't bore the vast majority here, but it looks like Gordon would not be subject to waivers even though he's not UFA eligible.Schefter is reporting he’s not subject to waivers because he is a vested veteran.
???.One, we don't know for sure what happened but it does not sound conclusively like it was drug or alcohol related.
If he injured himself filming a hype video, I can certainly understand CLE reaching a boiling point. But to announce plans to release him without even entertaining trade offers seems reactionary. Now that trade offers are coming in they're considering them. That tells me it was a knee jerk move.
Don't be surprised to see him suiting up for a new team at his rookie salary, ready to prove the world wrong, when his hamstring is healed. Thinking Philly would love to have him.
Soulfly?He didn't fail a drug test. He was late for a meeting. He isn't out of the NFL. He is off the Browns.
By not warming up.How do you pull a hamstring during a photo shoot?
I am not saying to bump his projections. Just not thinking he has no value either.Good things it’s Josh Gordon with a hamstring injury. With most players we would be worried about it lingering all year, with Josh it’s just a reason to bump his projections
You have to add Buffalo to this list.Gordon is eyeing a trade to either the Dallas Cowboys or San Francisco 49ers, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports.
When it includes a droneHow do you pull a hamstring during a photo shoot?