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WR Julio Jones, Retired (1 Viewer)

just_want_2_win said:
JJ admits can barely run and is a decoy (Why would you admit you're a decoy? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?)

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution's D. Orlando Ledbetter said Julio Jones (hip, questionable) "can barely run" and would be a "decoy" if he does play.
Ledbetter went on to say he does not think Jones will be active Week 15 against the Steelers. Jones' playing status likely will not be determined until Sunday morning, but it appears Jones will be at far less than 100 percent even if he suits up. Jones is shaping up as a player to avoid even in an excellent matchup against the Steelers' leaky secondary.
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Great. Last year I had Gronk blow out his knee in week 14. The next week I lost in the semifinals 177-174 because Pita put up a dud. Now, I'm looking at Julio getting injured in week 14 as well.

 
I went to Orlando Ledbetter's twitter page to see if he elaborated on his source or the basis for his information. Someone tweeted him regarding the reports that JJ was running fine, and he responded that "they won't waste him in a game they don't need." If that is the only basis for his claim that JJ won't play, it seems pretty arbitrary to me.

“@_KingVaughn_: they said Julio was running fine ....why do you think he won't play”<-They won't waste him in a game they don't need
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White Lightning said:
I went to Orlando Ledbetter's twitter page to see if he elaborated on his source or the basis for his information. Someone tweeted him regarding the reports that JJ was running fine, and he responded that "they won't waste him in a game they don't need." If that is the only basis for his claim that JJ won't play, it seems pretty arbitrary to me.

@_KingVaughn_: they said Julio was running fine ....why do you think he won't play<-They won't waste him in a game they don't need
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So did this dude actually see Julio run? Or is he making Shiit up?

 
What's interesting about this whole debate is we really don't have much informaiton on this injury. Someone said "hip flexor" but that was just some speculation from a guy who didn't evaluate him.

As usual, into the void there are speculations about, folks in the media proclaming that he won't play or that he'll be a decoy at best. That may be true, but honestly, how do they know that? They could just be giving JJ maximum rest on a short week late in the season. I'm not saying I know what's going to happen, I don't. It's just all speculation. That's what is frustrating about this.

I think if you have a really good back up,then maybe you should sit him. But if your back up is a scrub and you are going against a formdible playoff opponent, then I agree with teh dude that said, "go big or go home."

Better to lose your playoff game going for the win vs. conceding defeat by playing a scrub just to make it look respectable.

 
SteelerMurf said:
White Lightning said:
I went to Orlando Ledbetter's twitter page to see if he elaborated on his source or the basis for his information. Someone tweeted him regarding the reports that JJ was running fine, and he responded that "they won't waste him in a game they don't need." If that is the only basis for his claim that JJ won't play, it seems pretty arbitrary to me.

@_KingVaughn_: they said Julio was running fine ....why do you think he won't play<-They won't waste him in a game they don't need
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So did this dude actually see Julio run? Or is he making Shiit up?
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My thoughts exactly. I believe this same reporter proclaimed JJ out from the very first day that he was injured. That said, he's a local beat guy, so maybe he did see him run. Or it coudl be from "anonymous sources."

 
MikeApf said:
SteelerMurf said:
White Lightning said:
I went to Orlando Ledbetter's twitter page to see if he elaborated on his source or the basis for his information. Someone tweeted him regarding the reports that JJ was running fine, and he responded that "they won't waste him in a game they don't need." If that is the only basis for his claim that JJ won't play, it seems pretty arbitrary to me.

@_KingVaughn_: they said Julio was running fine ....why do you think he won't play<-They won't waste him in a game they don't need
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So did this dude actually see Julio run? Or is he making Shiit up?
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My thoughts exactly. I believe this same reporter proclaimed JJ out from the very first day that he was injured. That said, he's a local beat guy, so maybe he did see him run. Or it coudl be from "anonymous sources."
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The other thing I honestly wonder about is the "decoy argument." If a guy is truly injured, how long can he honestly serve as a decoy. Julio normally gets thrown to a lot. If, after the first quarter, he's not getting any balls and looks injured, do you honestly think the defense continues to be "fooled". I know these reporters love to throw out the "decoy" label but not sure how much it really works on the NFL level.

 
Don't trust anyone named "Orlando Ledbetter" who "tweets". IMOP :homer:

From The Falcons official website:

Smith did reveal that Jones has been running on the side this week, working with the Athletic Performance staff. He remains confident that Jones still may be a go on Sunday.

"I want the doctors to say he's ready to go," Smith said. "It's not going to be decision I'm going to make. It's not going to be a decision that Julio is going to make. They are going to evaluate it and make that decision."

 
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Waiting for the Steelers to confirm that they have been informed Julio will in fact be used as a decoy. Expect them to counter by doing the same with Antonio Brown.

 
"running fine" -- like jogging? or sprinting and making cuts? If it was the latter, it sure seems that detail would be making news.

 
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players are rarely used as decoys. seems to make more sense to put a guy out there that can actually make plays. so, if he plays, i gotta think hes healthy enough to make plays. i mean, why put a decoy out there and, on many plays, essentially have a 1 or 2 wr options. if he plays, im starting him. ofc, i dont have beastly options like the rest of yall.

 
cvnpoka said:
players are rarely used as decoys. seems to make more sense to put a guy out there that can actually make plays. so, if he plays, i gotta think hes healthy enough to make plays. i mean, why put a decoy out there and, on many plays, essentially have a 1 or 2 wr options. if he plays, im starting him. ofc, i dont have beastly options like the rest of yall.
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calvin, graham, and torrey were all used as decoys this year
 
cvnpoka said:
players are rarely used as decoys. seems to make more sense to put a guy out there that can actually make plays. so, if he plays, i gotta think hes healthy enough to make plays. i mean, why put a decoy out there and, on many plays, essentially have a 1 or 2 wr options. if he plays, im starting him. ofc, i dont have beastly options like the rest of yall.
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It's not uncommon for superstars to be used as decoys to draw attention away. Megatron, Graham and Marshall are a few that come to mind already this year.Shady :hifive:

 
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MikeApf said:
MikeApf said:
SteelerMurf said:
White Lightning said:
I went to Orlando Ledbetter's twitter page to see if he elaborated on his source or the basis for his information. Someone tweeted him regarding the reports that JJ was running fine, and he responded that "they won't waste him in a game they don't need." If that is the only basis for his claim that JJ won't play, it seems pretty arbitrary to me.

@_KingVaughn_: they said Julio was running fine ....why do you think he won't play<-They won't waste him in a game they don't need
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So did this dude actually see Julio run? Or is he making Shiit up?
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My thoughts exactly. I believe this same reporter proclaimed JJ out from the very first day that he was injured. That said, he's a local beat guy, so maybe he did see him run. Or it coudl be from "anonymous sources."
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The other thing I honestly wonder about is the "decoy argument." If a guy is truly injured, how long can he honestly serve as a decoy. Julio normally gets thrown to a lot. If, after the first quarter, he's not getting any balls and looks injured, do you honestly think the defense continues to be "fooled". I know these reporters love to throw out the "decoy" label but not sure how much it really works on the NFL level.
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You must not have owned Calvin Johnson in any league this year.

 
shadyridr said:
cvnpoka said:
players are rarely used as decoys. seems to make more sense to put a guy out there that can actually make plays. so, if he plays, i gotta think hes healthy enough to make plays. i mean, why put a decoy out there and, on many plays, essentially have a 1 or 2 wr options. if he plays, im starting him. ofc, i dont have beastly options like the rest of yall.
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calvin, graham, and torrey were all used as decoys this year
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good point, starting to sense that he isn't even gonna play, the decoy stuff is smoke and mirrors to get the other team thinking. Im gonna have to roll out Harry Douglas, who has been impressive when White was out. Hopefully he gets monster numbers/targets this week as Julio looks like a situation to stay away from. I bet he sits and plays last 2 for division.

 
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Kwai Chang Caine said:
MikeApf said:
MikeApf said:
SteelerMurf said:
White Lightning said:
I went to Orlando Ledbetter's twitter page to see if he elaborated on his source or the basis for his information. Someone tweeted him regarding the reports that JJ was running fine, and he responded that "they won't waste him in a game they don't need." If that is the only basis for his claim that JJ won't play, it seems pretty arbitrary to me.

@_KingVaughn_: they said Julio was running fine ....why do you think he won't play<-They won't waste him in a game they don't need
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So did this dude actually see Julio run? Or is he making Shiit up?
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My thoughts exactly. I believe this same reporter proclaimed JJ out from the very first day that he was injured. That said, he's a local beat guy, so maybe he did see him run. Or it coudl be from "anonymous sources."
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The other thing I honestly wonder about is the "decoy argument." If a guy is truly injured, how long can he honestly serve as a decoy. Julio normally gets thrown to a lot. If, after the first quarter, he's not getting any balls and looks injured, do you honestly think the defense continues to be "fooled". I know these reporters love to throw out the "decoy" label but not sure how much it really works on the NFL level.
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You must not have owned Calvin Johnson in any league this year.
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AND SEE Torrey Smith last week. Also What about Roddy White all last season. He was basically a decoy every game.

 
Kwai Chang Caine said:
MikeApf said:
MikeApf said:
SteelerMurf said:
White Lightning said:
I went to Orlando Ledbetter's twitter page to see if he elaborated on his source or the basis for his information. Someone tweeted him regarding the reports that JJ was running fine, and he responded that "they won't waste him in a game they don't need." If that is the only basis for his claim that JJ won't play, it seems pretty arbitrary to me.

@_KingVaughn_: they said Julio was running fine ....why do you think he won't play<-They won't waste him in a game they don't need
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So did this dude actually see Julio run? Or is he making Shiit up?
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My thoughts exactly. I believe this same reporter proclaimed JJ out from the very first day that he was injured. That said, he's a local beat guy, so maybe he did see him run. Or it coudl be from "anonymous sources."
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The other thing I honestly wonder about is the "decoy argument." If a guy is truly injured, how long can he honestly serve as a decoy. Julio normally gets thrown to a lot. If, after the first quarter, he's not getting any balls and looks injured, do you honestly think the defense continues to be "fooled". I know these reporters love to throw out the "decoy" label but not sure how much it really works on the NFL level.
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You must not have owned Calvin Johnson in any league this year.
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Believe it or not, I drafted Johnson, stayed with him, and still have him now.

I believe he slumped due to being injured but that it was not a deliberate move to use him as a decoy. I don't believe a professional football team puts a guy out there with just zero intent of ever using him. It would be better to put the backup in.

This decoy talk comes from media types and FFL "reporters" -- not actual football people.

Just My Opinion.

 
If "decoy" is a realistic designation, you do not HAVE to start him as people usually say about studs. I'd rather roll with Keenan Allen or Landry or Hurns or Douglas, that spectrum of guys. I have him in both leagues where I'm still in the playoffs and its a killer having him gimpy.

 
Sitting him for Kenny Stills as of now unless I read some glowing reports about him tomorrow. I know how bad the Steelers secondary is and I wish I could play him so badly.

 
You gotta be able to run to be a decoy. Players with upper-body injuries can run routes to shift defenses, but what good could he do if he can't run? If the Falcons think he can run well enough to start him, I'm starting him.

 
Going on the other side of the ball and playing Martavis Bryant. Atl got burned by GB last week, and Pit can put up the passing numbers.

 
Jeff Darlington @JeffDarlington · 13m 13 minutes ago
Patience with Julio Jones, as difficult as it might be. Team stressing this is a very legitimate gametime decision. He'll test hip pregame.

Jeff Darlington @JeffDarlington · 12m 12 minutes ago
I'm here, in the Georgia Dome, on the sideline. I'll let you know how Julio looks -- and any decisions -- once he gets out here to test hip.

 
Damn it. Now I have to start Gordon, hope he can run a correct route, and root for Johnny F-ing Manziel to throw a decent pass. Man this sucks.

 
No idea who this doctor is, but Evan Silva re-tweeted:

Evan Silva retweeted
David J. Chao, MD ‏@ProFootballDoc 18m18 minutes ago San Diego, CA
Surprised if JULIO JONES @Atlanta_Falcons is active today as more than decoy. I suspect hip flexor injury which is hard to play through.
 
Adam Levitan ‏@adamlevitan 3m3 minutes ago
On ESPN, @Edwerderespn said a source told him that Julio Jones (GTD, hip), is "unlikely" to play in today's game against the Steelers.
 
@JeffDarlington: Julio Jones just arrived at Georgia Dome. He's still planning to test hip to see if he can play. Team sources stressing no decision yet.

This was at 10:28 am.

Seems like a lot of people jumping the gun. Nice to know ESPN and those other clowns ruled him out before he even showed up.

 
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Well, I guess if he's ruled out, then that makes decisions easier. Sucks. But at least we can all set our lineups confident that we're starting the best option.

 
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