Dizzy
Footballguy
Thanks. This helps a lot. I'm keeping him in my line-up this weekend.
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Thanks. This helps a lot. I'm keeping him in my line-up this weekend.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I feel gross.
1-4 with third highest points. Currently in 10th. 8/12 make playoffs.
Had to send Jefferson, Kamara, Burrow (have Herbert) today for AJ Brown, Gibbs, Pitts and Roschon Johnson. We only start 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE and 3 Flex
1-4 with third highest points. Currently in 10th. 8/12 make playoffs.
Had to send Jefferson, Kamara, Burrow (have Herbert) today for AJ Brown, Gibbs, Pitts and Roschon Johnson. We only start 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE and 3 Flex
Biabreakable
Footballguy
There are other possibilities than what I have read posted here.
When Jefferson sought 2nd opinions about his diagnosis of the injury he may have been looking for one that would allow him to play sooner and not have to go on IR
When the coach is saying they wont rush Jefferson back, that they want to protect him, even from himself, those things suggest to me that Jefferson was trying to play through this if he could.
He is a competitor. All of these players are. I read similar things in regards to Kupps injury, that he was trying to play but the coaches and medical staff were being careful about that. Erring on the side of caution.
Now most of these comments spell doom and gloom and the possible timeline for Jeffersons absence keeps being extended by speculation.
I dont think anyone really knows. Just saying there is another way to look at it than what I have read here.
These folks like Scfeter and so on are motivated by what makes a bigger story. That gets them more views and helps their brand, whether they are right or not. A story speculating longer time frames and associated drama is going to generate more interest than saying something more positive will.
When Jefferson sought 2nd opinions about his diagnosis of the injury he may have been looking for one that would allow him to play sooner and not have to go on IR
When the coach is saying they wont rush Jefferson back, that they want to protect him, even from himself, those things suggest to me that Jefferson was trying to play through this if he could.
He is a competitor. All of these players are. I read similar things in regards to Kupps injury, that he was trying to play but the coaches and medical staff were being careful about that. Erring on the side of caution.
Now most of these comments spell doom and gloom and the possible timeline for Jeffersons absence keeps being extended by speculation.
I dont think anyone really knows. Just saying there is another way to look at it than what I have read here.
These folks like Scfeter and so on are motivated by what makes a bigger story. That gets them more views and helps their brand, whether they are right or not. A story speculating longer time frames and associated drama is going to generate more interest than saying something more positive will.
creepythinman
Footballguy
He was trying to get back in the game on Sunday. He's seeking 2nd opinions trying to stay off IR. Doesn't sound like a quiet quitter to me.
Willie Mays Hayes
Footballguy
If the Vikings are 2-7 when he is eligible to return, do you really think they’re going to rush him on the field? I was thinking about trading for him in redraft but hamstring injuries always concern me since they are known to linger. I can see where this becomes a wasted season for Jefferson.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
They are not going to "rush" him on the field. I think this has been stated by the HC pretty clearly that they wont clear him to play until he is fully recovered.
The Vikings have an extensive medical staff. Something I think the new GM has improved compared to the previous staff that was also pretty good, but did make some mistakes. Sharrif Floyd being the biggest example of mismanagement of injury from the previous staff, combined with some insensitive comments from Mike Zimmer regarding that and other injured players.
I digress, but the point is that the new medical staff has made an emphasis on protecting players health to the best of their ability.
They know that hamstring injuries can linger and the risk of reaggrivation of the injury if the player tries to do too much before full recovery.
I do not think the Vikings record has any bearing on this decision and I dont think if they trade Cousins that will matter as far as when Jefferson plays again either.
Jefferson wants to play, and will play once he is fully recovered.
As far as Jeffersons prospects when he returns IF the Vikings do trade Cousins away, well that has to be considered a downgrade.
The Vikings just put back up QB Nick Mullens on IR yesterday as well. He has a back injury, but no surgery required and they say he will return at some point this season.
Rookie Jaren Hall is being prepared as the back up QB now. I know nothing about him at the moment.
The Vikings signed Sean Mannion to their practice squad yesterday. He is not good, but he has been their back up QB before. He lost that job to Nick Mullens.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Just got offered DK Metcalf straight up for my Justin Jefferson.
Part of me says yes for immediate value and that Jefferson won’t come back strong.
Part of me says no… and he’s gonna come back and eat.
Part of me says yes for immediate value and that Jefferson won’t come back strong.
Part of me says no… and he’s gonna come back and eat.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
It’s tough with the new news of “possibly 6 weeks… and scans at week 4”
Sounds like his camp is signaling he may not come back at all this season if the Vikings aren't in contention. Given their current record and rumors they may be sellers at the trade deadline, that could be the case.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Not bad. As a Jefferson owner it’s hard to let go of his perceived 20+ points a game come playoff times.
But easy to see the possibility that he may be getting zeros.
It’s a really tough call.
Yeah gotta get to the playoffs first. My team wasn't good enough to win without him and I was 2-3 so I had no problem trading him. However I have him in another league and that team is good enough to win without him and I'm 3-2 so holding on to him there for now.
Well that's one Shefter report but honestly if players took off because their teams are not competitive would half the league not be saying see you next year in a few weeks? I mean we got a load of absolutely dog crap teams that no one is thinking has a shot at contention.
More I've thought about this I think there is nothing to the report of him not returning. He may not push it, but he'll return.
I think a return in week 12 is off the table but week 10 will be 5 weeks post injury and week 11 is the high mark of Shefters estimate as that's 6 weeks. I understand Shefter said his return will hinge on MRI results in 4 weeks but I'm a long way from thinking he's out till week 14 and would in fact bet on sooner.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Yeah. My team is somehow 5-0… but not deep at all and lost JJ and Achane and somehow surviving with Barkely out in the same week so I’m highly worried about the next 4-5 weeks and don’t want to fall back to earth.
Don’t ask me who I’m starting tomorrow or next week.
I feel like a desperate Icarus trying not to fall back to earth after flying too close to the sun off the backs of two studs.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
What do people think of his injury? Sounds like it's a 4-6 week thing at minimum, with a chance he gets shut down for the year potentially?
Is it worth the risk trading for him? The JJ owner noted he's available and Im not sure it would be an insane asking price.
Is it worth the risk trading for him? The JJ owner noted he's available and Im not sure it would be an insane asking price.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
I assume this is a redraft? There is much more risk in redraft and I would not do it in seasonal leagues—any keeper format you make a deal if you can.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Scroll back in the thread if you want more opinions about this as its been discussed plenty. This topic is related to Krk Cousins and the Vikings losing record so far as well.
As a Vikings fan my opinion is that Cousins will not be traded because he has a no trade clause in his contract. Jefferson will not be traded.
Jefferson is a competitor and wants to play. He will play as soon as the Vikings clear him to play. The Vikings will not clear him to play until he is recovered enough that they feel there is no risk of Jefferson reaggrivating the injury. He is too important to the team as their best player to do that. They will err on the side of caution here. It will be similar to how the Rams handled Cooper Kupp.
It depends on what you have to give up to get him but I would be in favor of trading for Jefferson in redraft formats as long as what you are giving up does not affect your ability to win too much over the next 3 weeks.
In other formats I would be willing to pay more to get Jefferson than redraft. Its a unique opportunity to trade for a player who otherwise would not be available at any price.
Jefferson is young so his recovery time should be quicker than it would be for an older player like Kupp.
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Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
Has a starting QB ever been traded mid-season? How long would it take a QB to learn a new system?I think this is more about the possibility of trading Cousins than it is the situation with JJ
ESPN’s Adam Schefter suggested Tuesday that Jefferson might not return to the field if the Vikings’ season is lost by November. In the meantime, KJ Osborn and Jordan Addison will function as the team’s top receivers.
-Hey Adam, how many others should just stay home the rest of the season? This is where he jumps the shark and why I pretty much detest the mere site of him.
It's like when Newman hears "Keith Hernandez" in the next room, my blood starts to boil immediately
Snoopy
Footballguy
Probable more recent examples, but John Hadl traded to the Packers in 1974 mid-season. Took the Packers a very long time to recover from that disaster.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Jefferson was coming back regardless as soon as he is cleared to do so. This talk about him shutting it down has been nonsense.
The Vikings winning a couple games without him is great of course and likely good for Cousins and the team overall that may have become too reliant on Jefferson before.
KOC and Kirk have better answers now for when teams try to take Jefferson away.
The head coach has said as much, that their game plans had become too focused on teams playing Jefferson this way. They have had to diversify the offense more now without him.
The Vikings winning a couple games without him is great of course and likely good for Cousins and the team overall that may have become too reliant on Jefferson before.
KOC and Kirk have better answers now for when teams try to take Jefferson away.
The head coach has said as much, that their game plans had become too focused on teams playing Jefferson this way. They have had to diversify the offense more now without him.
efactor
Footballguy
Thank you.
The bolded was complete idiocy. Guy wants to play and if he is healthy, he was playing regardless of the Vikings record
creepythinman
Footballguy
Vikings HC Kevin O'Connell says Justin Jefferson is feeling "a lot better than they initially thought he would" in his press conference.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Doesn't sound like JJ is immediately coming back off Injured Reserve
I hate media members imploring him to sit out the rest of the year, that entire line of thinking is wacky
Why would an NFL player not want to continue to stack their receptions, yds and TDs, he's on track for a possible Hall of Fame career.
88/1,400
108/1,600
128/1,800
I don't know if I've ever seen a 3 year start to a career like that
I hate media members imploring him to sit out the rest of the year, that entire line of thinking is wacky
Why would an NFL player not want to continue to stack their receptions, yds and TDs, he's on track for a possible Hall of Fame career.
88/1,400
108/1,600
128/1,800
I don't know if I've ever seen a 3 year start to a career like that
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Who are you listening to that makes it sound like Jefferson won't be back once he is cleared from IR?
Last we have heard KOC is optimistic about his recovery and if this holds true he may play as soon as the 4 games for temporary IR are completed.
Maybe he won't start right away after the 4 games. That remains to be seen.
Don't listen to MeShawn Johnson or whoever about this though. They don't know and are speaking for themselves with that type of speculation.
Jefferson is a competitor and will play as soon as he is medically cleared to do so. Of course he needs to practice a bit first so they can be sure he has no set backs and they will be careful with him. But he is not resting on his laurels or letting the contract affect his decision. That's something MeShawn would do sure. Doesn't mean Jefferson will.
eagles 123
Footballguy
You have to keep in mind the article was written after Kirk was deemed out for season and before the last game where Dobbs stepped in and looked very good.
Vikings are alive and window is now. If Dobbs builds momentum next game you have to believe at the very latest Jefferson will be back week 11.
Vikings are alive and window is now. If Dobbs builds momentum next game you have to believe at the very latest Jefferson will be back week 11.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Well this article to me just covers all the possibilities and doesn't really lean one way or another on it.
creepythinman
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
That sounds like possibly Week 11 or 12, NP
-MoP has somehow acquired JJ in redraft leagues, one way or the other. Some desperate folks literally cut him when he went to IR
If you can't throw pocket JJ and QQ away pre-flop on occasion you are screwed at a high stakes tournament and that's what I feel Redraft is like, there's no 2024
And in 14-16 man roster leagues non-PPR, you can only carry so many guys on IR
As long as he takes the field at some point this season, all good
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I traded him away in redraft because I thought I was screwed over the next 4-6 weeks and immediately regretted it.
And I’m still regretting it because the piece I added has done NOTHING.
Me too. Traded him for Ridley. Still went 1-3 and the one win Ridley scored 1 pt
Sounds like a long shot to play this week, but next week sounds promising.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Yeah just have to see how it goes in practice. They will be careful with him of course.
It is possible if he has a full practice he might play but I would guess the following week as well.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Dobbs.
Remains to be seen. Lots of things have changed since Jefferson last played.
He is still one of the best WR in the league though. That hasn't changed.
We have seen a lot of great wrs go flat with poor QB play however. Dobbs is exciting and runs and keeps plays alive which is helpful but he isn't going to fire 35 passes out there a game into tight windows
Rookiefever
Footballguy
Agree with you 100% but… dobbs could very well Chuck it Jefferson 8x a game even if he is covered. Minn might be a fun offense to watch ros
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I don't know any better than anyone else how Dobbs will play or who he favors in games going forward.
This will be his first week of practicing with these players after all. He should know their names by now.
Cousins used to lock in on Thielen a bit then Jefferson. Dobbs might not do that.
Dobbs ability to run adds a new wrinkle to the offense as well. Maybe that means fewer passing attempts compared to Cousins, sure.
The offense I think has evolved somewhat with Jefferson out. They likely were relying on Jefferson too much before.
Jefferson is great though and great players get the ball.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
All good points, and I cant imagine in his life Dobbs has ever had a guy like Jefferson to throw to.I don't know any better than anyone else how Dobbs will play or who he favors in games going forward.
This will be his first week of practicing with these players after all. He should know their names by now.
Cousins used to lock in on Thielen a bit then Jefferson. Dobbs might not do that.
Dobbs ability to run adds a new wrinkle to the offense as well. Maybe that means fewer passing attempts compared to Cousins, sure.
The offense I think has evolved somewhat with Jefferson out. They likely were relying on Jefferson too much before.
Jefferson is great though and great players get the ball.
Really rooting for these guys as fantasy pieces but as a team overall. Lot of fight in them
