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WR Kadarius Toney (4 Viewers)
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habsfan
Footballguy
Well if we're sharing in group therapy, Hi, I'm habsfan. I drafted this guy in the 11th round of my PPR redraft. If I'm being honest, he was a total enigma to me and I feel like someone who bought a stock they heard two strangers talking about in a bar. Now that he's on my roster, I'm trying to figure out what his deal is, which is entirely the wrong order to do things in.
rockaction
Footballguy
I honestly don't get this for redraft, but that's why there are champions and teams that draft like I drafted my sixteen-team league watching the champions.
I really did botch that draft. Oof.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Patience the best option with this guy or cut bait?
rockaction
Footballguy
Really depends on your league and who is out there. I'd preach patience, but his new coach seems to dislike his body of work. Not too many guys you could have drafted that late or pick up now that are as electrifying, but if somebody like Curtis Samuel is sitting on your wire, I'd think long and hard before probably dropping Toney.
But that's Samuel, and this is a long, long season.
The anti-ASB. He's my #3 WR, not cutting bait yet. The 19 yard run last week, weaving in traffic, in the 4th quarter, is yet another tease. Not gonna drop him yet, in a big league the likes of Chark and DPJ are the best on the waiver.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Already seeing Gage and Devonta Smith cut. Yeah I can drop this guy. I don't know how much lower on the depth chart he can go 
Always hurt, no sustained production any level, coaching staff that didn't draft him.
Always hurt, no sustained production any level, coaching staff that didn't draft him.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Banger
Footballguy
Ugh….2 plays early and then crickets the rest of the game. Cut bait unfortunately.
I knew cutting Cooper to keep Toney was gonna burn. Oh well….
oldmanhawkins
Footballguy
Pretty sure he had a 30+ yard catch called back for offensive pass interference (someone unintentionally set a pick). Caught the pass, stopped on a dime to elude defenders, and got a few more yards. I’m holding and still hopeful in dynasty.
metoo
Footballguy
He's improving.
Banger
Footballguy
agreed, a 2 catch for 0 yard game was the type of breakout I was hoping for.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
he did, Moose thought it was a bad PI call.
Banger
Footballguy
Deliberated for a while and ended up cutting Cooper after week 1 to pick up Samuel and kept Toney. I knew it was a risk and Cooper had a higher dependable floor but I was hoping for super high ceiling which I feel Toney has. I had Toney last year and he drove me insane but I fell in love with the ability. I would’ve cut him this week if there was something worth it…debated Goff but kept him one more week.
Such a disappointment as a player so far.
Such a disappointment as a player so far.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I thought I read that Toney started the game last game. If that is the case then the staff is at least making an effort with him and maybe the injury is playing the biggest role in him not seeing full time work. He did increase from 7 to 28 snaps from week 1 to 2. The way he is able to cut and accelerate is extremely rare. If he is able to figure out a way to stay healthy and takes to coaching then he still has massive upside. The likelihood of those two things happening however…
habsfan
Footballguy
I read a rumour somewhere that he doesn't like practice but no idea if there's anything to that or not. If he doesn't practice you'd think he wouldn't play, yet he does which doesn't seem entirely in line with the meritocracy they are operating. It also invites speculation on just how injured he is (or isn't). I think there's a combination of things going on with this guy.
I was listening to an interview the other day. Gmen are running a meritocracy and some bust their every day and will be hard to even beat out. Toney didn't give the effort they wanted and didn't play much week one. Golladay had cleaned out his locker in frustration and they had a meeting and all's good now. Golladay had a reasonable complaint that if he's not getting much practice time and even passes thrown his way then he can't sincerely participate in the meritocracy. Daboli was to rethink practice and playing time some, but he wasn't at all budging from rewarding effort of production.
The hosts were saying after he probably gives this many snaps as a minimum. Not cast in stone but general rule. Always opportunity on the scout team. Etc.
The hosts were discussing the goal, the end result Daboli wants too. Is it for Toney and Golladay to be starters? Or just productive practice players that can sub in well.
They were discussed as two the whole time while the other three were high effort gems.
Fear The Turtle
Footballguy
Not saying that Toney wouldn't be a pant load anyway, but look at the veteran example Golladay is setting for him.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Charlotte Carroll
"Giants had a walkthrough practice today so the injury report is a practice participation projection.
But one change is Kadarius Toney (hamstring) noted as a did not participate. He was listed as limited Thursday. Giants have practice again tomorrow before Monday’s game."
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lol at this guy
"Giants had a walkthrough practice today so the injury report is a practice participation projection.
But one change is Kadarius Toney (hamstring) noted as a did not participate. He was listed as limited Thursday. Giants have practice again tomorrow before Monday’s game."
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lol at this guy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Watch me….
-Kadarius
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
13.7m over 4 years plus a 7m signing bonus, more $$ than the average working stiff would see in 15+ lifetimes for this 
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
"WR Kadarius Toney (hamstring), WR Wan’Dale Robinson (knee), DL Leonard Williams (knee), CB Aaron Robinson (appendicitis), CB Nick McCloud (hamstring) and Justin Layne (concussion) won’t practice today. Seems pretty safe to rule that crew out for Monday."
zamboni
Footballguy
Shepard is probably going to get 10-15 targets on MNF.
-jb-
Footballguy
I mean......
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Banger
Footballguy
It’s why I fell for it again this year. Just cut him though. I’m done…critical time of year and you can’t waste roster spots waiting on far from a guarantee of anything. So far the only guarantee is injuries and drama. I’ll get back in at some point but not now
Monty Burns
Footballguy
it maybe has already been posted in this thread but I heard on one of the sports talk radio shows referring to him as Cadaverous Toney
packer_junkie
Footballguy
Sheppard done for the year--- Does Toney get a chance???
Hes on my wire
Hes on my wire
There’s rumors of Golladay being traded as well. I’m stuck with him. The minute I cut him loose he will go off. The mistake was drafting him in the first place. If there was anything decent on waivers I would have replaced him but there is not.
zamboni
Footballguy
On my wire too and thinking of picking him up in my keeper league (dropping Mooney).
Toney's talent is there, but the big issue beyond health is that Daboll and Co. just don't like him. Have to think Wan'dale will get his chances, but don't think Wan'dale is more than a smallish gadget player.
Toney's talent is there, but the big issue beyond health is that Daboll and Co. just don't like him. Have to think Wan'dale will get his chances, but don't think Wan'dale is more than a smallish gadget player.
sheerterror
Footballguy
It feels like if he just gets that 1 pop game, his value can get immediately restored to the point where you can dump him in dynasty. That's what I'm praying for at least.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
The Giants would take on an $18 million cap hit if they traded Golladay. They could split that up between this season and next, but they only have $6 million in cap space as currently constituted. They would have to rework / extend other contracts to get the numbers to work. Not impossible to facilitate, but there would be some steps to be taken before they could trade Golladay.
Then there's the issue that the acquiring team would have to be able to fit him under their own cap . . . and want to pay him $18 million a year for 3 seasons. KG has put up 39-543-0 in 17 GP with the Giants (while missing three games). I would guess not many teams will be interested in the player and that contract (unless the Giants eat a lot of the money . . . which they really don't have the cap space to deal with at the moment).
I own Toney, and I am not enthused at his prospects this season. Hard to get excited over a player that's only played 25% of his team's snaps between last year and this year (and still not getting a ton of reps and constantly injured).
Aznflyer14
Footballguy
Given his undeniably talents, he still is young and has to learn how to be pros. That's the message HC Daboll is sending to him and everyone. He'll not tolerate lack of efforts. Once Toney picks up, 
. Just need to exercise a little patience in him and his time will come.
. Just need to exercise a little patience in him and his time will come.
rockaction
Footballguy
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Sounds like the name of a Beastie Boys outtake.
