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WR Keenan Allen, CHI (1 Viewer)
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bolldpt
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Realistically, the only thing that matters right now is what he does in weeks 9 - 16. You can average in his first 7 games and get horrible "on pace" stats if that helps you rationalize dropping him (if you did). But I'm inclined to bet that he picks up the pace in the second half of the season. It happens all the time.
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LittlePhatty
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Widbil83
Footballguy
babydemon90
Footballguy
I benched him as well, with 0 td's to date, he wasn't an auto in. Denver has been rough on WR'a
zamboni
Footballguy
rjv
Footballguy
This is a just a uneducated comment. Allen has been awful for the 1st 7 weeks and benching him was a mistake? I'm glad he did something to show he has a pulse and Rivers knows he is on his team, but he is no stud so benching him wasn't a mistake.
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Franknbeans
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benching him was the right call. Now next week, that's another story.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Or an educated person who could say that starting Keenan Allen against a team he had scored 6 touchdowns against in only three games prior to Thursday night was the smart move. Yes, it's easy to say now, but when a player has had that kind of success against a particular team, you cannot ignore that, improved Broncos D or not.
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rjv
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So throw away the past 7 weeks of stinkers, and hope he does well against a very improved DEN D.Ghost Rider said:
Let me explain the reasoning behind my comment:
For the 1st 7 weeks Allen has played ARI,SEA,BUF,JAX,NYJ,OAK,KC. Before DEN, SD faced 2 below average passing Def and he performed well in only 1, Jax he went 10/135. DEN is a much more improved team and you think it would be a good start over other better options if you had any?
He finally broke out against a good team, but if you sat him, like i did, it wasnt a bad decision unless you take this from a 20/20 hindsight perspective.
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Ghost Rider
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Averaging nearly 10 points a week (from weeks 1-7) in PPR = stinkers?
For his value and where he was drafted, sure, but he was still a solid WR3 play this week generally speaking (naturally, it depends on your league and what your roster looks like).
And I was someone who thought Allen would be somewhat of a bust this year - I didn't think he would match what he did last year - but he was getting enough targets to where a breakout game was only a matter of time.
For his value and where he was drafted, sure, but he was still a solid WR3 play this week generally speaking (naturally, it depends on your league and what your roster looks like).
And I was someone who thought Allen would be somewhat of a bust this year - I didn't think he would match what he did last year - but he was getting enough targets to where a breakout game was only a matter of time.
rjv
Footballguy
I agree with you here, the targets were there but he wasnt performing better than a lot of other WRs drafted along side of him and lower. All I'm saying is that sitting him last week wasn't a bad decision if you had better options.
You saying "it was only a matter of time", was what a lot of us owners were hoping for and last week was it, didn't think it would happen against DEN let alone on a Thurday night game where blowouts happen, sure but who would of thought it would be SD and not DEN, I sure didn't. Besides SD beat DEN last season at Mile High buy "running the ball". Why would this week be any different?
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LittlePhatty
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Allen finally strung together a couple of halfway decent games. The two lost fumbles are troubling though. I didn't watch, we're the fumbles big hits or were they more Allen's fault?
zamboni
Footballguy
Sophomore slump talk can be quieted down now.
He's already had one more reception than all of last year, and on pace for 96 catches. The yards and TDs are merely on pace with last year, with the lower YPC this year due to the underneath routes he's being asked to run. Notably, he's been targeted at least 9 times in each of the last 6 games.
Unfortunately, he's up against the Pats secondary next week.
He's already had one more reception than all of last year, and on pace for 96 catches. The yards and TDs are merely on pace with last year, with the lower YPC this year due to the underneath routes he's being asked to run. Notably, he's been targeted at least 9 times in each of the last 6 games.
Unfortunately, he's up against the Pats secondary next week.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Wasn't my worst pick of the year, but it's in the top 3.
Sir Psycho
Footballguy
Benched him for Jo Brown !!!!
Never again....
Never again....
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Blind Tiger
Footballguy
So, does Allen get Revis this week?
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
That's my fear as well. Can't imagine Revis would cover anyone else.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
maybe Keenan is one of these late season bloomers
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
OU#1
Footballguy
I brought the topic up last week in the Jordy Nelson thread. Theee have been only a couple of #1 WRs that have had success against NE: E Sanders and D Thomas from DEN. I pulled stats from data dominator for all WRs against NE and it wasn't pretty for #1/2 WRs. The stats don't lie; it won't be pretty for Allen this week. The #3 WR types have been better...so maybe Royal this week will have some luck.
greedygoat
Footballguy
Benching him for Kenny Stills this week. Revis scares me.
steveski
Footballguy
I had him in my lineup in the beginning of the year for all of his bad games. That's why he'll stay on my bench even when he succeeds. It's punishment.
(Also I have better options)
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
Traded K.Allen straight up for Hopkins in my PPR dynasty league earlier in the year and feel pretty good about it. However, that trade seems like a win-win for both guys, just like Hopkins' ceiling more.
IF Gates hadn't cooled considerably, I could see BB having Revis cover Gates. With his recent poor play, however, I think he'll probably be on Allen.
Any NE homers know whether Revis has been locked on a WR this year, or if NE uses him in zone coverage?
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Thinking about Landry over him at FLEX. Maybe Crowell. I just don't like this matchup.
He's been playing one side of the field from what i've seen, but i dont claim to be an expert.
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
Yeah, I know last week sometimes he was matched on Cobb and sometimes he was matched on Jordy.
ratbast
Footballguy
The Pats secondary is too tough here, even if Revis isn't covering Allen, he'd probably have to deal with 2 solid dbacks.
If the Pats get the pass rush going it might be a long day. There is a chance for garbage time.
I am very surprised he is getting decent projections this week. Sits this week for me and looking at his schedule he is not a "plug and play".as my #2 wr ros.
That said I am psyched he is even an option after this season.
If the Pats get the pass rush going it might be a long day. There is a chance for garbage time.
I am very surprised he is getting decent projections this week. Sits this week for me and looking at his schedule he is not a "plug and play".as my #2 wr ros.
That said I am psyched he is even an option after this season.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Allen is my toughest call this week, but I think I have to start him because he's on a roll.
The matchup against NE has me worried, but I'm letting home field advantage tip the scale in his favor - I'm with you there zamboni.
The matchup against NE has me worried, but I'm letting home field advantage tip the scale in his favor - I'm with you there zamboni.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
I'm in a situation where I have to start 2 out of Isaiah Crowell, Keenan Allen, Torrey Smith, and Jeremy Maclin.
Also have Percy Harvin versus his former team and Marqise Lee as the likely top option versus a terrible secondary, but I'm not strongly considering them.
I'm actually leaning towards Crowell and Smith right now and leaving Allen and Maclin on the bench because of matchups. I don't think either are matchup proof. But I'm terrible at picking these things.
Also have Percy Harvin versus his former team and Marqise Lee as the likely top option versus a terrible secondary, but I'm not strongly considering them.
I'm actually leaning towards Crowell and Smith right now and leaving Allen and Maclin on the bench because of matchups. I don't think either are matchup proof. But I'm terrible at picking these things.
modogg
Footballguy
Not so sure about that. from rotoworld:
In this game, I'd expect Allen to get the Darrelle Revis treatment, though it's worth noting Reggie Wayne (5-91), Golden Tate (4-97), and Randall Cobb (7-85) all got the Revis treatment the past three weeks and were pretty productive.
obviously depends on what options you have but i don't think Allen is useless just because Revis may be on him for majority of the game
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
they don't really play exclusively anything.
if I had to guess, I'd think the bulk of the game allen will get revis
if they were to use a corner on gates it'd more likely be browner
Yeah, but that's RW. They aren't always on the ball. I thought that Revis spent a significant amount of the last game (just from watching it) covering Nelson, but I could be wrong.
Thanks for the insight! Always good to get some info from a homer that is based on watching the team, rather than looking at the numbers after the fact, like RW seems to do.
SD finally wised up and made K. Allen a focus.
No doubt Bill B. recognizes this. And I'd bet a lot he puts a stop to it.
And oh by the way, J. Nelson wouldn't have done a hell of a lot if it wasn't for that big play before the half. And do you think Revis is a bit PO'd by that? You bet.
I'd expect K. Allen to be shut down this week and for E. Royal to be this week's D. Adams (although not sure Royal can pull it off).
No doubt Bill B. recognizes this. And I'd bet a lot he puts a stop to it.
And oh by the way, J. Nelson wouldn't have done a hell of a lot if it wasn't for that big play before the half. And do you think Revis is a bit PO'd by that? You bet.
I'd expect K. Allen to be shut down this week and for E. Royal to be this week's D. Adams (although not sure Royal can pull it off).
JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo
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I'm considering Jarvis Landry as my flex instead of Allen.
