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WR Keenan Allen, LAC (2 Viewers)

With Henry going down, Keenan may catch 150 balls this year (only slightly over-exaggerating).

Now he just has to make it through the season two years in a row. :fingerscrossed:

 
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I don't think the Henry injury would change my expectations for Allen much. Henry caught 45-579-4 last year so nothing outstanding for a TE. Bring back Gates or bring in a guy like Fleener and you get someone who probably pretty much replaces those targets.

 
Warhogs said:
I don't think the Henry injury would change my expectations for Allen much. Henry caught 45-579-4 last year so nothing outstanding for a TE. Bring back Gates or bring in a guy like Fleener and you get someone who probably pretty much replaces those targets.
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I suspect Henry was in for an expanded role this season, so while it may not improve Allen's numbers from last seasson, which were awesome, it may help to keep them close to the same - which should make Allen owners very happy.

 
Warhogs said:
I don't think the Henry injury would change my expectations for Allen much. Henry caught 45-579-4 last year so nothing outstanding for a TE. Bring back Gates or bring in a guy like Fleener and you get someone who probably pretty much replaces those targets.
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Henry and Gates combined for 114 targets and now they're both gone and the replacement options available don't look very good. It won't be crazy, but there will be a few more targets to go around. 

 
FF Ninja said:
Henry and Gates combined for 114 targets and now they're both gone and the replacement options available don't look very good. It won't be crazy, but there will be a few more targets to go around. 
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Agreed, although the overall passing attempts will of course be a function of how good/bad the Chargers' defense is. If Rivers isn't forced to chuck the ball as much, it might be a wash in terms of incremental targets among all the receivers.

 
zamboni said:
Agreed, although the overall passing attempts will of course be a function of how good/bad the Chargers' defense is. If Rivers isn't forced to chuck the ball as much, it might be a wash in terms of incremental targets among all the receivers.
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Very true. He attempted 575 passes last season which doesn't seem like much in this day and age. As a team they were 8th in attempts with 584. Median was 541. Typically (although not always) when you have an above average QB, you thrown an above average amount of passes... so I don't expect much change in his pass attempts this season. The last time Rivers threw less than 570 times was 2013. Either way, this feels like over analyzing. Keenan was a likely candidate for 150 targets before and after the Henry injury. In the last half of the year he had 86 targets for 62/845/5.  :shock:

 
2018 NFL Supplemental Draft offers value; Keenan Allen's secret

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1) Whether anyone realizes it or not, Keenan Allen is one of the game's best players. If the Los Angeles Chargers are going to make a run at the AFC West title, Allen will have to play at an All-Pro level. Despite Philip Rivers' presence, No. 13 is the engine that really makes the Chargers' offense go. Don't believe me? Just take a look at the 2017 campaign.

After starting off the season at 3-6, the Bolts rampaged to six wins in their final seven games. During those six victories, Allen posted five 100-yard games and scored five touchdowns. He became the first player in NFL history to post 10-plus catches, 100-plus yards and at least one touchdown in three straight games during the wins over Buffalo, Dallas and Cleveland. Allen quietly finished the season with 102 receptions and 1,393 receiving yards, earning his first Pro Bowl berth and the NFL Comeback Player of the Year Award.

I bet you didn't realize that Allen's numbers put him in the neighborhood of Antonio Brown (101 catches for 1,533 receiving yards) and Julio Jones (88 catches for 1,444 receiving yards), but the Chargers star is worthy of being included in the discussion as one of the top receivers in the game.

"Allen is a freakish route runner," an AFC offensive assistant told me. "He is a big receiver who runs routes like a little guy. He has some crazy releases and stems that you typically don't see from a receiver of his size.

"He's like a streetball basketball player with the moves, but he's disciplined and detailed. It's hard to find big guys with those skills."

To that point, Allen is one of the most dynamic route runners in the league. He displays exceptional stop-start quickness, balance and body control while slipping past defenders at the line against press coverage. In addition, Allen will use a variety of fakes and wiggles at the top of routes to create separation from defenders out of his breaks. Although he's not regarded as a blazer, based on the reported 4.71 40 time at his pro day back in 2013, Allen is a deceptive playmaker capable of winning on intermediate and vertical routes on the perimeter.

"He's a dog!" an NFC scouting assistant told me. "He's one of the top pass catchers in the game, but people rarely talk about him. I love his game. ... He's special."

Looking at the Chargers' offensive personnel, Allen must be the No. 1 option for the team to succeed in a highly competitive AFC West. The lack of an established playmaker over the middle, due to Hunter Henry's season-ending injury, puts more responsibility on Allen to spit out 100-yard games on a routine basis. Sure, the team has high hopes for Mike Williams, Travis Benjamin and Tyrell Williams as complementary threats, but the passing game begins and ends with No. 13 and his remarkable talents.

With Rivers poised to post another 4,000-yard season in an offense that operates with a pass-first premise, Allen could carry the Chargers to a postseason berth and put up MVP-caliber numbers as one of the best-kept secrets in the game.
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Keenan is proven as a top WR and has relatively little competition for balls in a very solid offense, he'll be a target hog, perhaps the #1 targeted receiver in all of the NFL.

I'm targeting Keenan in most formats at his current ADP.

 
VikingFrog said:
Just showed up as questionable on my yahoo app but didn’t hear any news?
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He was not present for the media portion of practice...

Chargers WR Travis Benjamin was practicing in an open media session for the first time since, at the latest, Friday. WR Keenan Allen not practicing but Anthony Lynn said on Mon. he thought Allen wasn't banged up.
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https://twitter.com/Sam4TR/status/1045055854829957120

Wednesday rest day, possibly, but his snap count percentage was down last week (mid seventies instead of eighty five +) and was seen limping, and the suspicion was he was dealing with some kind of injury and might miss some practice this week.

 
Ilov80s said:
So I assume nobody really knows, right? Seems likely to be a veteran rest day, right?
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The decreased snap count and late game limping signals it might be slightly more than a veteran rest day, but yeah no one really knows. I expect a limited practice tomorrow with Friday being the real indicator, so I don't expect any real news until then.

 
Moonshine said:
The decreased snap count and late game limping signals it might be slightly more than a veteran rest day, but yeah no one really knows. I expect a limited practice tomorrow with Friday being the real indicator, so I don't expect any real news until then.
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Not that it means anything but I thought I read a quote from the HC Sunday saying he didn’t think it was anything significant. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Not that it means anything but I thought I read a quote from the HC Sunday saying he didn’t think it was anything significant. 
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I wouldn't trust anything HC Lynn says about injuries. He has been proven to understate them for multiple players in his limited time with the Chargers.

 
cantstop1999 said:
Could be a tooth problem, could possibly practice tomorrow 
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Good catch, I just saw they listed him on the injury report with knee and tooth problems.

Who the hell really knows, I guess.

 
With sherman our if Allen is playing, I'm playing him. 

May no point did the Chargers sound concerned about this injury, and he played through it Sunday.

sounds like a “veteran maintenance week” kinda thing to me - he’s had knee problems, why run him around all week.

that’s my hope.

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
With sherman our if Allen is playing, I'm playing him. 

May no point did the Chargers sound concerned about this injury, and he played through it Sunday.

sounds like a “veteran maintenance week” kinda thing to me - he’s had knee problems, why run him around all week.

that’s my hope.
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I was at the game and near the end zone. It happened very late.  I don't think he played through much

 
Maybe reason for optimism.   :shrug:

Allen's status is worth tracking all the way up to the release of the Chargers' Week 4 inactives prior to the team's 4:25 PM ET kickoff Sunday, but coach

Anthony Lynn noted Friday that he believes Allen will be fine this weekend. The wideout practiced in a limited fashion Friday.
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From The Sporting News:

Allen (knee, tooth) is expected to play on Sunday against the 49ers, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Whether he'll see his usual amount of snaps/targets is another story, but as long as Allen is active, it's tough to not have him in your lineup -- especially with San Francisco missing two starters in its secondary. 

 
Where are we at on this guy?  Seems like a great buy low.  Is the knee still bothering him?  

On pace for 96 1100 and 3.  Surely he'll find some more TD's along the way.

 
jm192 said:
Where are we at on this guy?  Seems like a great buy low.  Is the knee still bothering him?  

On pace for 96 1100 and 3.  Surely he'll find some more TD's along the way.
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Going into week 11 last year he had only 1 TD.  His second half last year was amazing, by far the top WR in the game the second half of last year (62 for 845 and 5 in 8 games).

 
matttyl said:
Going into week 11 last year he had only 1 TD.  His second half last year was amazing, by far the top WR in the game the second half of last year (62 for 845 and 5 in 8 games).
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This is technically correct, but somewhat meaningless to fantasy football players.  Allen had a massive Week 17, which vaulted him way over the rest of the WRs in the stretch of games from Week 9 through Week 17.

However, if we end our stats at Week 16 (which is more relevant to fantasy players), the PPR point totals  for weeks 9-16 are as follows.

1  DeAndre Hopkins HOU 164.20

2  Antonio Brown PIT 149.80

3 Keenan Allen LAC 149.10

And it's worth pointing out that Antonio Brown put up all but 4.4 of that total in Weeks 9 through 14.  He was injured early in Week 15 and didn't play another down the rest of the regular season.

From Weeks 9-14, the totals looked like this:

1  Antonio Brown PIT 145.40

2  DeAndre Hopkins HOU 129.70

3  Keenan Allen LAC 127.40

 
tangfoot said:
This is technically correct, but somewhat meaningless to fantasy football players.  Allen had a massive Week 17, which vaulted him way over the rest of the WRs in the stretch of games from Week 9 through Week 17.

However, if we end our stats at Week 16 (which is more relevant to fantasy players), the PPR point totals  for weeks 9-16 are as follows.

1  DeAndre Hopkins HOU 164.20

2  Antonio Brown PIT 149.80

3 Keenan Allen LAC 149.10

And it's worth pointing out that Antonio Brown put up all but 4.4 of that total in Weeks 9 through 14.  He was injured early in Week 15 and didn't play another down the rest of the regular season.

From Weeks 9-14, the totals looked like this:

1  Antonio Brown PIT 145.40

2  DeAndre Hopkins HOU 129.70

3  Keenan Allen LAC 127.40
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I’ll be fine if he’s just a top 3 fantasy WR second half of the season.

 
Ilov80s said:
I’ll be fine if he’s just a top 3 fantasy WR second half of the season.
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He will have to massively improve his performance to get there.  Over the last half of 2017, he had the 3rd highest ppg in the league, a total that would 5th in the NFL this year.  He's currently the 28th WR in the league by ppg.

He's got the talent and QB and team to do it, it's really just a question of game scripts.

 
tangfoot said:
He will have to massively improve his performance to get there.  Over the last half of 2017, he had the 3rd highest ppg in the league, a total that would 5th in the NFL this year.  He's currently the 28th WR in the league by ppg.

He's got the talent and QB and team to do it, it's really just a question of game scripts.
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they are successfully running the ball better this year. Limited possessions, D needs Bosa back. The Bills game they were up big early so curious when they play more divisional games.  

 
tangfoot said:
He will have to massively improve his performance to get there.  Over the last half of 2017, he had the 3rd highest ppg in the league, a total that would 5th in the NFL this year.  He's currently the 28th WR in the league by ppg.

He's got the talent and QB and team to do it, it's really just a question of game scripts.
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I’ll take 5th or even 10th rest of season. But yeah I’m thinking of trying to package him with a low RB2 for Julio. The Julio owner has awful RBs and now Freeman is out.

 
Ilov80s said:
I’ll take 5th or even 10th rest of season. But yeah I’m thinking of trying to package him with a low RB2 for Julio. The Julio owner has awful RBs and now Freeman is out.
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Julio owner should be adding to get Keenan from you.  Frankly, this feels like the best possible time to buy Julio low.  TDs have to regress back to respectability, right?

 
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