efactor
Footballguy
Agree, but why on 3rd and 7 is he out of the game and friggin MVS is in? Incomplete of course
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WR Khalil Shakir, BUF (1 Viewer)
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EBF
Footballguy
5 for 54 on a night when Allen threw 19 passes seems like a small W.
This game just wasn't competitive after halftime.
Allen so far has thrown 23 and 19 passes in the two games.
Last season he averaged 34 attempts per game. This whole passing attack is in first gear at the moment.
This game just wasn't competitive after halftime.
Allen so far has thrown 23 and 19 passes in the two games.
Last season he averaged 34 attempts per game. This whole passing attack is in first gear at the moment.
ilianawindfae
Footballguy
In a different game script, he would have gone for 100 yards. I was surprised he caught another pass after Tua's pick-six.
efactor
Footballguy
He’s really good. Unfortunate the Dolphins were so bad that the Bills didn’t need to throw the ball the entire 2nd half. Could have easily been a 9/100 game if it was competitive
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
I'm just waiting for the week Allen finally goes off for 400 yards passing, 4 TDs and Shakir is on the end for a lot of those.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Coleman is droppable IMO. (ETA: context = redraft, 12-team)
He’s an afterthought behind Shakir, Cook, & Kincaid.
Maybe he has a big week once or twice - I’m just not seeing it. But then I’ve not been a fan of Coleman since before they drafted him. I feel like his draft capital / landing spot elevated his FF value more than most.
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VikingFrog
Footballguy
He was an afterthought in game 2. Which was game scripted out a bit after a strong rushing start.
He was not an afterthought in game 1 with 5 targets.
I’m not faulting anyone for dropping him, but still makes it tough for me personally.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That's fair, though 4/51 isn't much to write home about.
Like I said, he could have some big weeks. He's more of a BYE week/wait and see on the bench kinda guy for FF purposes. I wouldn't be confident starting him anywhere.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Fair enough.
I was not confident starting him last week and got a zero.
I am confident I am not starting him this week.
ilianawindfae
Footballguy
I'd love to pickup Coleman off waivers. He's a rookie who struggled on a short week.
Tua coughed it up 3 times and even gave the Bills 6 points. Monday Night Football, I think he puts a stamp on the game.
Another dud and sure, but I'll give the rookie or head coach a pass for not forcing the rookie into the gameplan on a short week. And MNF is the ultimate litmus test, that's where the stars come to play.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Oh I fully concede that I could be wrong.
And of course I’m talking strictly redraft, 12 team league.
Larger leagues & dynasty he’s a hold all day.
So Coleman is a star coming to play on the big stage of MNF is the fantasy advice here?
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
A little voice just told me…..get Khalil Shakir active
This is the week. 8/93/2
This is the week. 8/93/2
ilianawindfae
Footballguy
ahartig
Footballguy
6 / 72 and 1 TD at halftime. Just need the jags to make it competitive. His TD was another work of art.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Might be starting him over Aiyuk going forward.
Traded Waddle for him to get me the stack with Josh Allen. Might regret that move later on this season if Miami figures out their QB or Tua returns, but it worked out this week at least, got my a win that would’ve been a loss otherwise. Bills offense > Dolphins was my logic. Dude is 100% on catches this year, and led the league last year as well (85% catch rate). If the Bills are ever forced to play more than half a game, look out.
zamboni
Footballguy
That is an impressive stat that is probably being overlooked by most outside of the Bills organization - among Allen's last 59 targets to Shakir, he's caught 53 of them.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
He's really good. If he ever got the snaps that ASB got, he would be a monster. Did he get dinged up last night? Saw that Hollins and MVS out snapped him. Don't really understand why he's in the 60% snap count range for the year.
zamboni
Footballguy
I turned it off last night, so didn't see if he got hurt. Maybe it was game script related in a blowout - not sure.
As far as his usage through three games, just a guess that he comes off the field a lot when they run the ball in "12" personnel in favor of Hollins (who's known as an extremely good blocker). And they've been running the ball a lot so far in these positive game scripts.
efactor
Footballguy
He took a decent hit on his last catch but don't see any injury reports on him.
As someone who needed 10 points out of Shakir last night, I paid a lot of attention and noticed they ran a lot of 3 WR sets with Hollins and MVS on the field without Shakir. Mainly running plays or short passes to Cook or Samuel where Hollins and MVS were mainly blockers. Shakier didn't have any targets in the 2nd half, but think that was more due to the blowout. Shakir had 6 targets, Hollins 2 and MVS 2. Had the game been competitive, I bet Shakir would have hit 10 targets. Same the week before against the Dolphins in another blowout. Looks like they don't have him in the game on plays they know he won't get the ball.
Football Jones
Footballguy
They benched Keon for the 1st quarter, then rotated him the rest of the game for being late. Everyone else got more snaps than they typically would so it's hard to glean much info from this game.
efactor
Footballguy
Guy is really good. Amazes me they play Hollins and MVS as many snaps as they do. Hollins is kind of taking the Gabe Davis role so I get that, but MVS? Other than the occasional long pass, he's not good.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
I've got AJ Brown, ARSB and Kupp as my top 3 WR. For some reason he's still out there in our league. My 4th WR is Shaheed. Looking to drop him for Shakir. What's a good FAAB amount to bid? Looking to block others and secure Shakir to get through bye weeks and injuries
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I like him a lot.
But he’s a guy I’d put it all on him.
He hasn’t even realized close to his potential. And the Bills have only been playing offense for 8 quarters really.
The guy has caught every single target thrown his way, and those targets continue to grow.
Week 1- 3/3, 42 yrds and a TD
week 2 - 5/5, 54 yrds
Week 3 - 7/7, 72 yrds and a TD
Do with that what you will. But I’d be throwing all my FAAB at a guy that is an easy WR2 on a really strong offense that could easily turn into a true alpha WR1.
Can you only carry 4 WR's? I'd hate to drop Shaheed for Shakir, that feels like a sideways move at best, and likely a downgrade.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
That's kinda where I'm at. Seems like a lateral move or maybe a slight upgrade. I think the advantage Shakir offers over Shaheed is consistency. Those zero games will kill you. I could drop Steele but I like RB depth.
Agree. Can’t deal with a zero. Kills the week. Dropping Shaheed for Shakir.
ahartig
Footballguy
Bills receiver Khalil Shakir has caught a record-tying 27 consecutive targets
On Monday night against the Jaguars, Bills receiver Khalil Shakir caught all six passes thrown to him, continuing a remarkable streak.
www.nbcsports.com
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BlackCrowes
Footballguy
granted, a lot of those are screens and/or thrown behind the LOS. Still impressive.
ahartig
Footballguy
True, but he has taken some monster hits on these and held onto the ball, I can think of three catches at least where I was surprised he held on
LawFitz
Footballguy
Since last season, his highlights and efficiency metrics are off-the-charts good. All he needs is more volume to explode IMO. And that seems to be slowly but surely ticking upward, save for the Bills getting up big and resting him. He was one of the guys I laser targeted and reached for, not one, but multiple rounds early in drafts, which prompted snickers and laughs from most and some notable groans and sighs from others.
Since the start of the season, I've received a bunch of low-ball offers for him, which is funny because people saw me reach for this dude and yet somehow think I don't realize what I might have here.
Godspeed, to the young Padawan... Force (and good health) be with him ROS!
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
I do think that the 'everybody eats' mantra that the Bills are embracing in the post-Diggs era is likely not producing a WR1. And Allen seems committed to executing this moving forward.
While the Bills have the look of a downright scary productive and efficient offense, Allen's pass attempts AND rush attempts are down as the Bills have averaged 37 PPG. So far this year, he has 26 2nd half pass attempts.
To the extent that the Bills can keep this up...TBD, but Shakir is on pace for 79/952/11 on an offense that largely isn't passing the ball in the 2nd half (3/35/1 for Shakir). If/when the offense has to play a full 60 minutes...I have to think Skakir eats even more than he has been.
While the Bills have the look of a downright scary productive and efficient offense, Allen's pass attempts AND rush attempts are down as the Bills have averaged 37 PPG. So far this year, he has 26 2nd half pass attempts.
To the extent that the Bills can keep this up...TBD, but Shakir is on pace for 79/952/11 on an offense that largely isn't passing the ball in the 2nd half (3/35/1 for Shakir). If/when the offense has to play a full 60 minutes...I have to think Skakir eats even more than he has been.
ahartig
Footballguy
Sounds like we are aligned 100%. My co-teammates in my FFPC were not happy when I insisted we take him in the 8th, but I held my ground. Best kept little secret.
The hit he took after that TD scamper, WOW. I was sure he wasn't getting up from that one....
As a life-long Bills fan it has been weird not stressing these past two games, I am happy we can rest our main guys the last quarter, but the fantasy side of me is a bit sad that we can't see a full game of Allen and Shakir goodness. The D needs to stop being so good. Sunday night against the Ravens is gonna be fun.
Terpman22
Footballguy
If he keeps up the pace, he is damn near close to a WR1 rate. 240.2 PPR points would have had him at WR14 last year
Chaka
Footballguy
FTR I was in the "groans and sighs" group.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Maybe. He's WR 17 in both of my PPR leagues and Allen has thrown 23, 19 & 30 passes. He has a total of three pass attempts in the fourth quarter in the last two games combined. Only twelve second half attempts in the last two games.
If we assume they continue to steamroll the league like this RoS then Shakir won't be a WR1 but if they start seeing some competitive games (they have road games at Bal, Hou, MYJ & Sea over the next five weeks) then I think Shakir could easily be more involved and move into WR1 territory.
Chaka
Footballguy
How was I to know you weren't into lesbian quarterbacks? (hat tip to @massraider for that one).
LawFitz
Footballguy
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