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WR Malik Nabers, NYG (2 Viewers)

Too early to discuss the potential impact on his dynasty/keeper value?

Substantially lower
Mostly due to the lost season of points this year, or is your outlook for him affected going forward?

It depends but he's coming off a torn acl so his season next year is probably mediocre (or at least start mediocre). Then you have the long term risk he just doesn't get it back. If you tried to trade him yesterday you would have gotten way more than if you tried to trade him now in dynasty
 
Too early to discuss the potential impact on his dynasty/keeper value?

Substantially lower
Mostly due to the lost season of points this year, or is your outlook for him affected going forward?

It depends but he's coming off a torn acl so his season next year is probably mediocre (or at least start mediocre). Then you have the long term risk he just doesn't get it back. If you tried to trade him yesterday you would have gotten way more than if you tried to trade him now in dynasty
That seems a bit overblown, most guys these days are close to normal after about a year if not sooner, and being 22 will help.
 
Too early to discuss the potential impact on his dynasty/keeper value?

Substantially lower
Mostly due to the lost season of points this year, or is your outlook for him affected going forward?

It depends but he's coming off a torn acl so his season next year is probably mediocre (or at least start mediocre). Then you have the long term risk he just doesn't get it back. If you tried to trade him yesterday you would have gotten way more than if you tried to trade him now in dynasty
That seems a bit overblown, most guys these days are close to normal after about a year if not sooner, and being 22 will help.

Most...but not all. And lots of them take the full year to recover. You hear it all the time
 
Too early to discuss the potential impact on his dynasty/keeper value?

Substantially lower
Mostly due to the lost season of points this year, or is your outlook for him affected going forward?

It depends but he's coming off a torn acl so his season next year is probably mediocre (or at least start mediocre). Then you have the long term risk he just doesn't get it back. If you tried to trade him yesterday you would have gotten way more than if you tried to trade him now in dynasty
That seems a bit overblown, most guys these days are close to normal after about a year if not sooner, and being 22 will help.

Most...but not all. And lots of them take the full year to recover. You hear it all the time
At least it was early in the year then.
 
The MetLife stadium stuff is very very bitter for older Giants fans.
Their whole WR corps tore their knees within like 18 months many years ago. They had a rock solid case to present to the NFL (as fans think) and the NFLPA was on board too.

But we're still in this situation
 
The MetLife stadium stuff is very very bitter for older Giants fans.
Their whole WR corps tore their knees within like 18 months many years ago. They had a rock solid case to present to the NFL (as fans think) and the NFLPA was on board too.

But we're still in this situation
I don't remember if OBJ
Steve Smith, Nicks, Barden...that group
 
That’s awful. I read a few of your comments and I am similar to one of you in that I drafted him on to a struggling dynasty squad that I have finally turned around and had become a top-four team.

I feel awful for him and for that 2024 class in general. MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, and Brian Thomas, Jr. have had their inordinate share of tribulations and tough tests to overcome.
 
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Will ESPN remove Nabers from the undroppable list? Otherwise as commish I'll have to remove all players from the undroppable list it seems. Opinions on if I can do that as commish by commish authority or do I need to get an OK from my league?
 
I don't have him in any long term leagues but I just wanted to post how much of a loss this is even for NFL fans who don't root for New York or have shares of him
He's entertaining and worth the price of admission, it just sucks to watch him go down this way
Not gonna pick on the franchise, wish this hadn't happened, NFL fans everywhere are robbed of a terrific talent

Sucks
 
Even bigger bummer since Dart brought so much life to the O.

Feel even worse for Nabers who's had to endure so much trash play at QB in his short career.
 
Will ESPN remove Nabers from the undroppable list? Otherwise as commish I'll have to remove all players from the undroppable list it seems. Opinions on if I can do that as commish by commish authority or do I need to get an OK from my league?
Don't do a thing
Never use commish powers
 
It's been like twenty years but when I was on that surface it was concrete with turf on top.

Every soul told me no no it's got this or got that and they did this and ...I played ball in the streets like every kid, I know what it's like to hit asphalt and how it feels and all that.

One of the other reporters was always adamant about stickball would be phenomenal there and with it NY history people would come and...that was his thing he discussed.

Ever since when I read and they say they did this and that and it's better. My head goes to my childhood again. We just played on grass. It was so obviously better we didn't point it out to each other.

I've always had a "yeah I don't believe you" thought in my head when they discuss it. I swear anyone that grew up before cellphones would feel the same way listening to them.

For me, also, I adored those old guys that tended to stadium fields and discussed the grass and watering and seeds and...no one doubted they knew what they were doing or that the field was in as good shape as can be
 
The game would be so much better if they got rid of artificial turf but of course they never will because it's a money-loser for the owners, and they generally don't give a damn about the players' health.
 
How is his dynasty value affected now? I’m sniffing around so I’m curious what this injury, this early in the season, does to his perceptive trade value for shareholders.
 
The game would be so much better if they got rid of artificial turf but of course they never will because it's a money-loser for the owners, and they generally don't give a damn about the players' health.
There was a big kerfuffle in my township a few years back when the one commissioner was pushing spending a surplus on turf soccer and football fields for the youth teams. I was surprised just how expensive the turf maintenance was in addition to the high install cost. From what I can see googling it still seems like it's generally slightly cheaper than grass for stadiums, but the delta is surprisingly small. Which just makes it seem like a solution in search of a problem for me - you get a less safe playing surface, there's been some talk about the little pellet things being carcinogenic, what are we even doing here?

Best I can come up with is that turf is always going to look flawless on TV, whereas with grass you'll get lots of grief when you have problem spots. I suppose it may also be tough to find top notch grass guys in 2025 versus 50 years ago. There was some head greens guy locally who wrecked a bunch of the greens at the one local public golf course, and then he moved to a different public course and wrecked those greens too.
 
How is his dynasty value affected now? I’m sniffing around so I’m curious what this injury, this early in the season, does to his perceptive trade value for shareholders.

It's tough because where I don't have him I want to buy at a discount, but where I do have him I have no interest in selling at a discount, so why should I expect other owners to do so?

I think it's going to come down to each individual league. It's going to take just the right owner that is a contender and values the current year highly matched up with a team where you have a piece that will legitimately help them and is a only a little older, but not a guy on his way to aging out.

I doubt the Nabers owner will have much interest in guys like Metcalf or anything. But maybe a guy like Lamb if he comes back and starts putting up numbers again would be a straight swap or a small cherry on top in your favor, whereas before you'd have been giving a small cherry to make that swap.
 
How is his dynasty value affected now? I’m sniffing around so I’m curious what this injury, this early in the season, does to his perceptive trade value for shareholders.
Is his ACL injury similar to Aiyuk? Or is there a chance/likelihood he is ready for week 1 next year? If the ladder, a clean tear,I think everyone would be interested. But if its a bad tear, i would be more cautious. But thats just me.

Who is going to get his snaps now, Beau Collins?
 
The game would be so much better if they got rid of artificial turf but of course they never will because it's a money-loser for the owners, and they generally don't give a damn about the players' health.
There was a big kerfuffle in my township a few years back when the one commissioner was pushing spending a surplus on turf soccer and football fields for the youth teams. I was surprised just how expensive the turf maintenance was in addition to the high install cost. From what I can see googling it still seems like it's generally slightly cheaper than grass for stadiums, but the delta is surprisingly small. Which just makes it seem like a solution in search of a problem for me - you get a less safe playing surface, there's been some talk about the little pellet things being carcinogenic, what are we even doing here?

Best I can come up with is that turf is always going to look flawless on TV, whereas with grass you'll get lots of grief when you have problem spots. I suppose it may also be tough to find top notch grass guys in 2025 versus 50 years ago. There was some head greens guy locally who wrecked a bunch of the greens at the one local public golf course, and then he moved to a different public course and wrecked those greens too.
A lot of it for these stadiums, especially one like MetLife smack dab in the middle of uber populated New York and New Jersey (and not far from Philly), is they want to double up as concert venues. Turf can withstands hundreds of thousands of people trouncing it week in and week out, and the highest traffic times are of course summer running right up to football season. Nice weather, school is out, summer vacations, etc. This is murder for the grass though and the cost of repair it, especially in a short amount of time if they still wanted to double up as a concert venue, is wild.

Chicago fans would know better than me, but I feel like every year I read about the scramble to get Soldier Field re-sodded and rooted prior to week 1 and a lot of times it looks like hell anyway. At this point I don't care what it looks like so long as it's safer for the players. Course they can't be playing on loose sod or uneven ground either lol. Really, IMO, stadiums should either not multipurpose as concert venues, or at the very least they should stop letting people on the field. At least stop it at some point their grounds crew says gives them enough window to rehabilitate it. But as with everything.... comes down to greed.
 
Fire up ur Wan’dales!
Anecdotal but Slayton seemed to be the beneficiary yesterday. Dart was first read and scramble, and he was looking at Slayton.
Yeah - unfortunately the switch to Dart seems to have completely killed Wandale's value. He was putting up pretty nice numbers with Russ

Looked like Wandale was finally breaking out. I was even trying to trade for him.
Giants are a wasteland for players. They either get hurt or get traded,then turn into great fantasy assets.
 
How is his dynasty value affected now? I’m sniffing around so I’m curious what this injury, this early in the season, does to his perceptive trade value for shareholders.

It's tough because where I don't have him I want to buy at a discount, but where I do have him I have no interest in selling at a discount, so why should I expect other owners to do so?

I think it's going to come down to each individual league. It's going to take just the right owner that is a contender and values the current year highly matched up with a team where you have a piece that will legitimately help them and is a only a little older, but not a guy on his way to aging out.

I doubt the Nabers owner will have much interest in guys like Metcalf or anything. But maybe a guy like Lamb if he comes back and starts putting up numbers again would be a straight swap or a small cherry on top in your favor, whereas before you'd have been giving a small cherry to make that swap.

as a Nabers owner and with a seemingly weak 2026 rookie class, I want full 2024 price on Nabers.
 
But maybe a guy like Lamb if he comes back and starts putting up numbers again would be a straight swap or a small cherry on top in your favor, whereas before you'd have been giving a small cherry to make that swap.
This is where I am at. I have Lamb and was wondering if a deal could be made here. It's a salary cap league and Lamb is expensive and subject to escalation (but the injury may mean that he doesn't) and Nabors is cost controlled through 2026.

Guy with Nabors also has Terry McLaurin, Reed, Tillman so his WR's have been hit hard. I have Egbuka, Jamo, and Meyers so I can whether losing Lamb for this year. It's an interesting thought.
 
OK on another tack sorry for Malik owners (and for him). ACLs suck. But in my world where I have no shares but a lame fantasy team always hungry for opportunity I want to know who is going to catch passes in NY now?
 
OK on another tack sorry for Malik owners (and for him). ACLs suck. But in my world where I have no shares but a lame fantasy team always hungry for opportunity I want to know who is going to catch passes in NY now?
I'd say Slayton and Wandale primarily, with an emphasis on Slayton in TD-heavy scoring and Wandale in PPR. Hyatt will emerge as the 3rd WR but I'd go after those two first (guessing Wandale is already rostered though).
 
The game would be so much better if they got rid of artificial turf but of course they never will because it's a money-loser for the owners, and they generally don't give a damn about the players' health.
There was a big kerfuffle in my township a few years back when the one commissioner was pushing spending a surplus on turf soccer and football fields for the youth teams. I was surprised just how expensive the turf maintenance was in addition to the high install cost. From what I can see googling it still seems like it's generally slightly cheaper than grass for stadiums, but the delta is surprisingly small. Which just makes it seem like a solution in search of a problem for me - you get a less safe playing surface, there's been some talk about the little pellet things being carcinogenic, what are we even doing here?

Best I can come up with is that turf is always going to look flawless on TV, whereas with grass you'll get lots of grief when you have problem spots. I suppose it may also be tough to find top notch grass guys in 2025 versus 50 years ago. There was some head greens guy locally who wrecked a bunch of the greens at the one local public golf course, and then he moved to a different public course and wrecked those greens too.
A lot of it for these stadiums, especially one like MetLife smack dab in the middle of uber populated New York and New Jersey (and not far from Philly), is they want to double up as concert venues. Turf can withstands hundreds of thousands of people trouncing it week in and week out, and the highest traffic times are of course summer running right up to football season. Nice weather, school is out, summer vacations, etc. This is murder for the grass though and the cost of repair it, especially in a short amount of time if they still wanted to double up as a concert venue, is wild.

Chicago fans would know better than me, but I feel like every year I read about the scramble to get Soldier Field re-sodded and rooted prior to week 1 and a lot of times it looks like hell anyway. At this point I don't care what it looks like so long as it's safer for the players. Course they can't be playing on loose sod or uneven ground either lol. Really, IMO, stadiums should either not multipurpose as concert venues, or at the very least they should stop letting people on the field. At least stop it at some point their grounds crew says gives them enough window to rehabilitate it. But as with everything.... comes down to greed.
Soldier Field is a dang mess early in the season because of all the concerts and events...and the city runs turf management (poorly).
 
Can any Giants homers chime in during yesterday's game vs. Chargers? Why called go-route for Nabers? Where were dig, curl, out, slant, or other? Every time I tuned to this game, I always see him taking go-route.
 

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