eighsse2
Footballguy
I like how everyone assumes he's worried about the incentive bonus. I would be more about the streak.
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WR Mike Evans, TB (1 Viewer)
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
It did feel a bit like that to me. The guy who picked him up after he motioned just ran backwards like 10 yards after the ball was snapped. It might have been part of a coverage but seems hard to imagine
pinequick
Footballguy
I wonder if Mark Gastineau will be pissed about this, too?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m sure it’s a bit of both.
I only brought up the $ as a comparison to Jerry Jones cheap BS.
But yeah, that was history. I don’t think any defender wanted to mess up any of it.
What I was pulling for.
And I was also thinking of how much more drama that last play would have been if Lattimore was still a Saint. He'd be the one guy in the league who would have gave everything to stop him. Would have been entertaining.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Totally agree on all counts. Gotta love a red a$$,
lol
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Happy for the dude. I also politely disagree defensive players would be happy for him as well. Can't believe they let him or wanted him to get that pro athletes are competitive. Imo
I doubt they cared, it's not like they're trying to break up a perfect game or something.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
Here’s the play, it took execution, he ran a route, he just didn’t turn around for an easy pass.
Evans Catch to Reach Milestone and $$$
Geez...I hope things are as easy for all of us tomorrow at work.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
manipulating this stuff is hollow. It was particularly egregious given the situation.Smack Tripper
Footballguy
tremendous point
Chaka
Footballguy
No.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
The Saints had no incentive to contest the play, but they didn’t just lay down like Favre did for Michael Strahan to get his sack. The player covering Evans did give him a cushion, no question. Watch the play, they rush Mayfield and did put a decent amount of pressure on him. I just don’t think that was a gimme pass for Mayfield, the pass rush was on him pretty quick.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
No.
its not an accomplishment, its the nfl equivalent of letting the equipment manager score a td while both teams escort him down the sideline
Chaka
Footballguy
NoNo.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
He told them before the play he’d give each of them $100k to let him get it.
Insein
Footballguy
Except maybe Lattimore
Doug B
Footballguy
It's a very small number of Saints fans ... but some of our fans are irate that the Saints "let Evans get this record!"
Former Saints LB Scott Shanle fanning the flames on X:
Scott Shanle58
Evans and Buccaneers Nation can take pride in having elicited some childish butthurt out of some on the Saints side this past Sunday. To me, the Saints and us fans aren't in position to say anything meaningful about Evans' catch. The game wasn't in the balance, the Saints season had long been done, etc. This is the kind of thing a loser fan base harps on. Shaddap -- eyes on 2025.
Former Saints LB Scott Shanle fanning the flames on X:
Scott Shanle58
@scottshanle
The guys I played for would have doubled that dude Mike Evans like it was a punt return....no way he's getting that record on us
3:21 PM · Jan 5, 2025
Evans and Buccaneers Nation can take pride in having elicited some childish butthurt out of some on the Saints side this past Sunday. To me, the Saints and us fans aren't in position to say anything meaningful about Evans' catch. The game wasn't in the balance, the Saints season had long been done, etc. This is the kind of thing a loser fan base harps on. Shaddap -- eyes on 2025.
Capella
Footballguy
You would’ve rather seen that than a team take a risk to reward a great player and keep a great record going? Lol why are some of you like this?
jtd13
Footballguy
Well if we can't trust a guy from the 2009-2012 saints defense on the right way to play defense, who can we trust?Scott Shanle58
@scottshanleThe guys I played for would have doubled that dude Mike Evans like it was a punt return....no way he's getting that record on us3:21 PM · Jan 5, 2025
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That was the most joyful play I watched all season. I thought it was pretty crazy to attempt it - but I was so happy for him and Baker after the catch.
jm192
Footballguy
He'll turn 32 around the start of the season.
17 game pace: 134 targets, 90 catches, 1219 yards, 13 TD's. Important to note: He probably benefited some late in the season due to no Godwin.
Dude just ages like fine wine. I assume he'll get pushed down some due to age. It'll be hard for me not to draft him everywhere next year if he slides.
17 game pace: 134 targets, 90 catches, 1219 yards, 13 TD's. Important to note: He probably benefited some late in the season due to no Godwin.
Dude just ages like fine wine. I assume he'll get pushed down some due to age. It'll be hard for me not to draft him everywhere next year if he slides.
eighsse2
Footballguy
It was kind of an artificial thing. You don't normally do something in a meaningful game just to help a player hit a milestone.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
This is what I'm thinking....like who has a problem with Mike Evans? Lol
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Josh Allen played one snap to keep his consecutive games started streak going.
These things happen all the time.
NickRocks
Footballguy
I thought many teams tried a little to help players achieve contract milestones. See Lions getting Williams a late catch last night to get to 1000+ yards too.
eighsse2
Footballguy
That's at least a little better than running a play in a kneel-down scenario.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Why? Both are “artificial” - but one actually took place on the field while the other was basically a gimmick. Allen didn’t really play in that game but his streak continues.
I mean 995 yards out of the 1,000 were “legit”.
eighsse2
Footballguy
True, both are artificial, but one isn't a risk. The risk in this case was so slim, but if I imagine my Bengals did that and it resulted in missing the playoffs ... jeez man, that would be a tough one to ever get over.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I agree it was risky - as I said - which I think made the moment even more special. I wouldn’t be shocked if this gives the Bucs some momentum in the playoffs.
jm192
Footballguy
I have ZERO qualms with getting him that last catch.
First and foremost, record aside, he had a 3 million dollar incentive tied to it. He's been such a huge part of that franchise and community. You absolutely get that guy his $$.
Second: He missed 3 games. We wouldn't even be talking about it if he had played 1 more game. As it stands, it took 1 garage time throw in his 14th game. He didn't use the 17th game to do it. He didn't even use 16, which was the old norm. He did it in 14. C'mon now.
First and foremost, record aside, he had a 3 million dollar incentive tied to it. He's been such a huge part of that franchise and community. You absolutely get that guy his $$.
Second: He missed 3 games. We wouldn't even be talking about it if he had played 1 more game. As it stands, it took 1 garage time throw in his 14th game. He didn't use the 17th game to do it. He didn't even use 16, which was the old norm. He did it in 14. C'mon now.
Capella
Footballguy
Mike Evans is a top tier human. Does a ton in the community. Sports are supposed to be cool and fun. If a top person getting a cool record in a fun scenario doesn’t work for you why are you even watching sports. It simply is not that serious. That play brought a lot of people a LOT of joy. Try to experience it. 
-OZ-
Footballguy
NOMike Evans is a top tier human. Does a ton in the community. Sports are supposed to be cool and fun. If a top person getting a cool record in a fun scenario doesn’t work for you why are you even watching sports. It simply is not that serious. That play brought a lot of people a LOT of joy. Try to experience it.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Let me preface this post by saying that this is what PFF has players rated at, and not me. So don't shoot the messenger. They have Evans as their 47th ranked WR in HOF Monitor Score. They have a formula, and that's where he ranks. I can't tell if this includes or excludes this season or not. Here are scores for current WR . . .
Tyreek Hill - 90.16 (22nd)
DeAndre Hopkins - 76.14 (34th)
Davante Adams - 71.72 (40th)
Mike Evans - 68.49 (47th)
Keenan Allen - 52.72 (68th)
Stefon Diggs - 51.31 (69th)
(Only current players above a score of 50.00.)
Others that retired since the past few seasons:
Julio Jones - 108.60 (13th)
Antonio Brown - 104.48 (14th)
Larry Fitzgerald - 141.09 (4th)
Where do people feel Evans should rank all-time? Top 50? Top 25? Top 10? Do folks feel he has had a better career than the guys listed higher than him here? Put another way, rank the following players: Hill, Hopkins, Adams, Evans, Jones, Brown, Fitzgerald.
Tyreek Hill - 90.16 (22nd)
DeAndre Hopkins - 76.14 (34th)
Davante Adams - 71.72 (40th)
Mike Evans - 68.49 (47th)
Keenan Allen - 52.72 (68th)
Stefon Diggs - 51.31 (69th)
(Only current players above a score of 50.00.)
Others that retired since the past few seasons:
Julio Jones - 108.60 (13th)
Antonio Brown - 104.48 (14th)
Larry Fitzgerald - 141.09 (4th)
Where do people feel Evans should rank all-time? Top 50? Top 25? Top 10? Do folks feel he has had a better career than the guys listed higher than him here? Put another way, rank the following players: Hill, Hopkins, Adams, Evans, Jones, Brown, Fitzgerald.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I have deja vu.
Capella
Footballguy
I think he just copy and pastes that post lol.
I’ll say the same thing I say every time I see that post. Computers aren’t voting for the hall. People who cover the sport do. He’s going to the hall.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I am not saying he isn't going to the Hall. How do you think his career compares to the other players PFR ranks ahead of him: Hill, Hopkins, Adams, Jones, Brown, Fitzgerald.
Capella
Footballguy
I truly don’t care. He’s my favorite player, is awesome in the community, won a Super Bowl for my favorite team. Who cares how he compares against Julio Jones.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Found it.
Edit:
He's up to 24th all time in yards. He needs 1,019 to pass Julio Jones. He's already 9th in TDs. 11 next year would tie him with Antonio Gates for 7th most all time. He's 16 behind Fitz who also played 16 years... If Mike plays two more seasons he'll probably pass him.
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
You nailed it.
FairWarning
Footballguy
Fitz is a good comp.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Tied with Jeudy for most in the league these last 7 weeks since TB’s bye.
They were on a mission.
rockaction
Footballguy
To Anarchy’s point, he’s awfully close to Hopkins and Adams, and if he has another year like this and Hopkins has another year like this, I expect Evans to overtake him.
Is Evans a HoF guy? Depends on the list of who is out. He’s not Julio Jones. Almost nobody is. He’s not Antonio Brown. Again, same thing. Larry Fitzgerald?
Those are three locks for the Hall.
What your list gives me hope for is my dynasty team. I roster Adams and you can bet he’ll be dead set on a situation that gets him the most fed.
Feed him.
Is Evans a HoF guy? Depends on the list of who is out. He’s not Julio Jones. Almost nobody is. He’s not Antonio Brown. Again, same thing. Larry Fitzgerald?
Those are three locks for the Hall.
What your list gives me hope for is my dynasty team. I roster Adams and you can bet he’ll be dead set on a situation that gets him the most fed.
Feed him.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Shouldn’t the fact that there was a risk make it less artificial?
