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WR Mike Williams, Retired (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter Faust
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Just for clarity, I think you're misusing the word "elite" here. Williams was considered to be a prototypical franchise receiver a la Julio, AJ Green, etc. But "elite" receivers come in all shapes and flavors (Hopkins, Brown, etc).
If that's what you're trying to say then I agree.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Pretty much all respected scouting sites had him as a top level prospect.
A lot of FF people didn't view him that way though.
I recall reading some scouts saying it was a bad reach for the chargers. I mostly recall the talking heads hyping him just as they always hype key players on championship teams.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
1st Round talent playing like a 1st Round talent. Shocking, I know.
The shores are littered with the remains of guys who flashed a bit here and there but never made the leap to stardom. The most common reason that happens is injury, but there's plenty of other reasons as well.
We all get overly excited when one of the guys we draft goes off on a huge stretch. You want to ride it out thinking you've got the next Julio, but the odds are actually better that you've got the next Ruben Randall.
From a pure profit-taking perspective, right now is a tremendous time to get a healthy return. I refuse to own any player named Mike Williams (as a long-time beaten down, suffering Lions fan), but even I'd put it about 2/1 that his value will still increase going forward. The biggest obstacle he has going forward (from a dynasty perspective) is the healthy return of Hunter Henry.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
So Keenan and Benjamin will play. How do we feel about Mike at this point?
My feeling is that Williams is still a fairly strong play against a weak pass D and hopefully Keenan can at least distract coverage and not be able to fully get open.
My feeling is that Williams is still a fairly strong play against a weak pass D and hopefully Keenan can at least distract coverage and not be able to fully get open.
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Steelers4Life
Footballguy
I'm about ready to flip a coin between him and Callaway at my 2nd flex spot. Benjamin being back and the chance that the Chargers get up big and the 49ers can't move the ball have me leaning towards Callaway at this point.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
From what I have seen, Rivers seems like he is getting pretty locked in on his first read and/or going to Gordon. But I may have that wrong.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Just seems like there are too many other targets here for Mike to be a reliable start. Big fan here and will roll him out there in a flex with bye weeks coming, as needed.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
So this week he's got the Raiders, who have a poor pass D and have been particularly susceptible to big plays. Their safeties are old and slow. Benjamin is out.
I am leery about rolling him out after getting squat last week and leaving Ridley and Davis on the bench, but I am getting quite tempted to put him in again.
I am leery about rolling him out after getting squat last week and leaving Ridley and Davis on the bench, but I am getting quite tempted to put him in again.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Sitting him this week for Alshon & Dede
Faust
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in2win
Footballguy
Hes a WR3 in an offense that is very pass heavy. Weapons in an Offense with Rivers at the helm are league winners. Unfortunately for MW Gordon is eating healthy and Allen is and has been Rivers favorite WR target. Fortunately Gates is is at the end of the road so there is some room for MW.
Its going to take some time but he is the most talented WR 2 Rivers has had and should be a very good WR for years to come. Last game he was getting his looks and there was a missed TD hookup if i'm not mistaken
If anyone were to miss some time in the offense that is eating targets currently.....look out
Its going to take some time but he is the most talented WR 2 Rivers has had and should be a very good WR for years to come. Last game he was getting his looks and there was a missed TD hookup if i'm not mistaken
If anyone were to miss some time in the offense that is eating targets currently.....look out
Chaka
Footballguy
Pulled him at the last minute last week. 
Of course I proceeded to roll with Kenyan Drake instead :X
He's not really an option for me this week even with the Benjamin news. Unless he truly explodes with high volume and efficiency he is likely on my bench all year behind Josh Gordon and Mark Ingram. If he keeps up with low volume/high TD then maybe he will have value as part of a trade.
Of course I proceeded to roll with Kenyan Drake instead :X
He's not really an option for me this week even with the Benjamin news. Unless he truly explodes with high volume and efficiency he is likely on my bench all year behind Josh Gordon and Mark Ingram. If he keeps up with low volume/high TD then maybe he will have value as part of a trade.
Futz
Footballguy
My biggest problem with him are his criminal lack of targets (6,2,7,3). He may be talented but it's all about pecking order. I felt the same way about Tyrell when I owned him in the past but I think Mike is well beyond Tyrell as a complete receiver at this stage.
I'm starting him this week over Shepard @ Carolina only because of match ups.
I'm starting him this week over Shepard @ Carolina only because of match ups.
Chaka
Footballguy
Just traded him and Chris Carson for Henry.
12 team PPR super-flex redraft wr/te combined.
Steep price IMO but @Futz hit it for me. He seems very underutilized. And I think Tennessee is quitely turning the corner. No one is really talking about how they defeated two of the top four finishers from last year.
12 team PPR super-flex redraft wr/te combined.
Steep price IMO but @Futz hit it for me. He seems very underutilized. And I think Tennessee is quitely turning the corner. No one is really talking about how they defeated two of the top four finishers from last year.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Yeah I ended up leaving him on the bench mainly for these reasons. The targets still just seem too volatile, so while I think his upside is as really upper echelon any given week, his EV is just not quite there for me right now.
Futz
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Oh #### I just embarked on a Danube river cruise today. No Sunday Ticket access. Did I miss something? Because I thought I was complimenting you.
Futz
Footballguy
mozzy84
Footballguy
I wanna say the rest of the year will be like this. Up and down, Never comfortable starting.
Flying Elvis
Footballguy
Definitely too many mouths to feed in this offense. Tyrell Williams & Melvin Gordon are both final year of contract but it'd be pretty surprising to see Gordon leave via FA... if he does Ekeler doesn't have the size you'd normally see for a true workhorse. BMW owners need to see T. Williams leave and it wouldn't hurt to see Benjamin cut (final year 2019 cap hit @ 6+M and only 1+ penalty). Keenan is signed to a very reasonable deal so he's likely to play that out (10M per for 2019 & 2020). Hunter returning will hurt, too... It really needs to be a 3 man show without a stud RB for me to feel really positive about BMW as anything more than a high-upside, low floor WR that isn't P.Riv's favorite binky. A breakout, game-dominating performance maybe puts him in Rivers' crosshairs more? Tough situation... good offense with lots of weapons making the pieces a lot like the Rams - own the QB/RB or suffer the weekly variance.
packer_junkie
Footballguy
Agreed with everything until you mentioned the rams. Offenses aren't close. Rams have 5 guys you can comfortably start every week. Chargers have 3.
Flying Elvis
Footballguy
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
Gordon out. Bump?
dcgangstas
Footballguy
It will probably be next year for BMW. Tyrell clearly appears to have re-established himself as the #2 WR in LA.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
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BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
Fantastic. Thought I was being slick with this guy being a throw in on a trade for Tom Brady.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Williams (groin) doesn't carry an injury designation into Sunday's game against the Broncos after practicing fully Friday, Eric D. Williams of ESPN.com reports.
BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
Is this guy worth a start this week vs Bungles, especially if you are an OBJ owner who just got blind-sided yesterday? I also have DJ Moore, who right now I am leaning towards, and already am starting Justin Jax in my flex. I like Williams ability and situation but he’s just been so volatile.
Finatic
Footballguy
I'd play DJ and not look back. The Bolts might not need to throw much in this one.
My .02 cents
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
DJ > M Williams is the play that makes the most cents .02. Williams gets so few targets and total yards, but a Red Zone target. Chargers up early and Justin runs out the clock in the 4th.
JFS171
Footballguy
Anybody getting on board with Williams in tonight’s potential shootout?
Trying to decide between Williams, Reynolds, and McKenzie for a WR3 spot and leaning MW. He’s played well of late and saw six targets last week against the Bengals, one shy of his season high set back in week 2. There’s a narrative that the Chargers have to pass more to keep up, especially likely missing their top two RBs. What say you?
Trying to decide between Williams, Reynolds, and McKenzie for a WR3 spot and leaning MW. He’s played well of late and saw six targets last week against the Bengals, one shy of his season high set back in week 2. There’s a narrative that the Chargers have to pass more to keep up, especially likely missing their top two RBs. What say you?
Yeah. I'm thinking the same thing but hesitant to pull the trigger. The main thing holding me back is the weather. Cold, drizzly, windy doesn't really set up well for a shootout.
