T J
Footballguy
I didn't say top 5 overall. I still place RBs only there. That said, I've seen enough to tell me he's the real deal and there are very few WRs I'd want over Beckham next year as things stand today.
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WR Odell Beckham, Jr., BAL (3 Viewers)
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maclin was unreal with foles. his game logs went
4/97/1
4/45/1
8/154/1
4/54
5/76/1
2/16
12/187/2
the next game he went 8/168/2, but i think like half of that came from sanchez. still, he had a long td from foles in that game iirc. regardless, neglecting that game entirely, with foles he was averaging 5.4/90/.86 which prorates to 89/1400/14. id be ecstatic to get this guy in the 3rd.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Week 17 is after most FF super bowls. ODB and the Giants host Philly that week. Oh my.
Banger
Footballguy
too few targets and catches for me. I want target hounds and guys that the offense is built around. Maclin's in a good spot but he's not a terrific talent.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
hes got 131 targets this year. he was actually a massive target hound with foles, garnering 76 in 7 games. he had an outlier vs the giants only getting 3 targets for 2 catches in the 27-0 blowout. regardless, almost 11 targets a game is legit. his catch rate was kinda blah tho, i guess.
anyway, you gotta realize beckhams targets will decline some when cruz comes back.
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cubbie5150
Footballguy
My league plays championship & consolation week 17 (it is what it is, please don't berate me). I am so desperate to win week 16 (even more than usual in a playoff game) largely because I want a shot at the trophy on the back of ODB vs. Philly.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
The way Phi elected to "defend"(?) Dez after getting torched by GB and others this year is inexplicable. Good luck this weekend.
Banger
Footballguy
maybe...very likely that Randle/others will shift into Cruz. Also, targets are not finite and if you have more weapons it can help keep drives alive and produce more opportunities. Each week the Giants are putting more on his plate and he's not a surprise to anyone in the NFL at this point and he keeps responding and with his outstanding skillset I expect that to continue. The Giants know they have a star on their hands and he will be the focal point of their offense for years to come.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Can he continue to keep this up? There's got to be some sort of 4-40-0 game right?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Probably, but then he will throw in a touchdown and another 30 yards rushing on a reverse for a touchdown. Him and Leveon Bell are winning people titles
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I just see his combination of talent and opportunity being better than just about anyone. Eli is completely locked into him and you have to think their chemistry can only improve after an off-season
I love these other guys that you listed but I just don't see them being as consistently great as OBJ will be in a ppr league.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
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Nugget
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Both - Deion Sanderssteveski said:
I'm curious about how this plays out too. Cruz could be huge without the #1 coverage. Next year Eli might be the biggest benefactor. I'm sure the Giants will do something to mess it up...
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
This has been gone over a number of times in this thread. Cruz tore his Patellar Tendon. This is a bad injury, and didn't go well for Ryan or Cadillac Williams. Very good chance that Cruz is never the same player he once was.I'm curious about how this plays out too. Cruz could be huge without the #1 coverage. Next year Eli might be the biggest benefactor. I'm sure the Giants will do something to mess it up...
steveski
Footballguy
The o-line could go back to being swiss cheese like they were all last year and half of this year.I'm curious about how this plays out too. Cruz could be huge without the #1 coverage. Next year Eli might be the biggest benefactor. I'm sure the Giants will do something to mess it up...
I could see OBJ losing some targets to Cruz next year, but besides the last 2 weeks he hasn't really been targeted a ton. The last 2 weeks he was targeted 35% and 44% of the teams targets, which is obviously high, but before that he was averaging around 20-25%. That makes me think that he can maintain that volume and Cruz's targets can come out of the other guys like Donnell and the other WR's who are underperforming. The beauty of OBJ is he is extremely efficient with his targets. He catches anything remotely close to him. He's a QB's best friend.
Touchdown Syndrome
Footballguy
fredsavage
Footballguy
The thing about ODB is that it's exceedingly obvious the gmen will do whatever it takes to get him the ball. This is how I once envisioned cordarrelle, moving all over the formation, reverses, even lining up in the backfield. Giants play calling has been superb every time I've paid close attention.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
It is one thing to jump off the screen and dominate against college level players, but he jumps off the screen at the pro level. Just compare him to all your one year wonders you want, they don't look as good as him.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
people are acting like he tore his ACL or something when it is much worse for Cruz. It's likely he never returns to anything close to what he was before the Patellar Tendon injury. Thats a brutal injury and far worse than a simple ACL tear.This has been gone over a number of times in this thread. Cruz tore his Patellar Tendon. This is a bad injury, and didn't go well for Ryan or Cadillac Williams. Very good chance that Cruz is never the same player he once was.I'm curious about how this plays out too. Cruz could be huge without the #1 coverage. Next year Eli might be the biggest benefactor. I'm sure the Giants will do something to mess it up...
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
In the games he's played (which is only 10 mind you, due to his early season injury), he's averaged 23 pts/game in one of my PPR leagues, including bonus pts for 100+ yds receiving. Pro-rated to 14 games, that would put him just behind Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, and Demaryius Thomas this season. And this is a rookie we're talking about.
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cruz hasnt been the same since his bust out season really. its weird that he continually declined from there. and now he has a nasty injury to contend with. but he still hogged a ton of targets, even with beckham.This has been gone over a number of times in this thread. Cruz tore his Patellar Tendon. This is a bad injury, and didn't go well for Ryan or Cadillac Williams. Very good chance that Cruz is never the same player he once was.I'm curious about how this plays out too. Cruz could be huge without the #1 coverage. Next year Eli might be the biggest benefactor. I'm sure the Giants will do something to mess it up...
msudaisy26
Footballguy
This is an unfair statement. People don't put 1500 yard season all the time. His second year he had 1100 and 10 and his third year he had just shy of 1000 and 4 and missed the final 2 games. Plus the Giants and Eli have been a mess.cruz hasnt been the same since his bust out season really. its weird that he continually declined from there. and now he has a nasty injury to contend with. but he still hogged a ton of targets, even with beckham.This has been gone over a number of times in this thread. Cruz tore his Patellar Tendon. This is a bad injury, and didn't go well for Ryan or Cadillac Williams. Very good chance that Cruz is never the same player he once was.I'm curious about how this plays out too. Cruz could be huge without the #1 coverage. Next year Eli might be the biggest benefactor. I'm sure the Giants will do something to mess it up...
jimmykick
Footballguy
a rookie with Eli chucking the rock to him.
those other 3 have Rodgers, Big Ben & Manning
steveski
Footballguy
It's not even a tough call. There have been a lot of really good rookies that have contributed to their teams, but none in the way that Beckham has.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
Is this guy the biggest key to championship teams? In both my leagues, Beckham turned a mediocre team into one of the two championship teams. I am one of those teams and went from 2-4 to only losing one game the rest of the season and scoring 130+ pts in each of those wins. I picked him up after his season debut for cheap.
steveski
Footballguy
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the most highly owned player on championship teams. His late season push was very valuable in flex spots or due to injury and these past 2 weeks should have definitely helped his owners advance. I only won by 3 points in the semifinals, so I'd say that his 36 points definitely helped.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
It is him or Leveon Bell
White Lightning
Footballguy
My man crush on OBD (aka Dirk McGirk) knows no bounds. He's got me in the championship game and on the cusp of 2K. There is no doubt in my mind that the WW is 50% of the reason why people win FF championships. It seems like every year I've won or made it to the finals, I was able to pull a stud of the WW (CK2, J. Charles, Vick, Miles Austin, ODB)........ Now that I think about it, I'm a pretty s*itty drafter.
Banger
Footballguy
ya....especially when the game is on the line and it really counts...he's doing it when it matters and the game is in doubt. That's what so impressive and you can clearly see it when you watch the games but when you then compare him to every other player in the NFL and the fact that he's leading in so many clutch categories just shows how good he is and how much the Giants rely on him.
I've been playing this game a long time and I've posted numerous times that I've not seen a guy like this before and I'll post it again. There are always one year wonders and ODB is definitely benefitting from a good schedule but he's incredibly special and he is not some Keenan Allen or other flash in the pan. He's the complete package...blazing speed, amazing route runner, smart, hard working, can play every position, body control like I've never seen before, hands like I've never seen before and incredibly determined. One of the things I like the best about him is that even after a huge game like he had he focusing on the one TD that was broken up by Breeland and how he has to be better in that spot and make that catch. The kid had 12 catches nearly 150 yards, 3 tds, won the game for his team, will be the offensive rookie of the week for the 2nd time in 3 or 4 weeks and he's bothered by the one catch that he didn't make.
I traded Josh Gordon on my team a couple weeks ago to make room for ODB.
Kuz
Footballguy
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
fredsavage
Footballguy
I've thought about this and I don't think I could do it, RBs are just not long for this world and I don't think Leveon is AP or anything. I'd probably trade him for Luck but that's about it (6pt passing TDs). That is until we see where Gurley gets drafted and how his rehab went.dickey moe said:
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Dodd's said on the podcast don't be surprised if he lays a stinker in a tough matchup and good pass rush against Eli... Yet ranks him as the 4th best flex play.
steveski
Footballguy
Well you have to start him. I agree though, this matchup worries me and not because of the Rams secondary. It's the Rams D-line and the fact that Jennings probably won't play. Still...no way I'd even consider benching him.
The worst part is he could go 7/95 and people will consider it a disappointment.
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
I went WR heavy and drafted CJ, Antonio and Jordy. Luckily ODB has seen my lineup due to CJs injuries and bye weeks. I benched Nelson for him last week, but I don't know if I can do it again.
Keerock
Footballguy
Synthesizer
Footballguy
Elite athletic ability with skills that produce all over the field. Very similar to Antonio Brown but with with better skills in the end zone.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Whether Eli has time to get him the ball is the concern this week. ODB is planted in my lineup, but I am expecting his streak of 90 yds to be broken this week. Hopefully he can catch a short TD
Faust
MVP
Odell Beckham Jr. now favored to win Rookie of Year:
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/41085/beckham-now-favored-to-win-rookie-of-year
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/41085/beckham-now-favored-to-win-rookie-of-year
