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WR Odell Beckham, Jr., Free Agent (3 Viewers)

McGarnicle said:
RBM said:
McGarnicle said:
RBM said:
:lmao: Counseling
Yeah, I'm sure his obvious rage issue will work itself out on its own.I give you credit, you're consistent with ignorant posts here and in the FFA.
:lol: You're so dopey.He's a 22 year old hot head. He's got some growing up to do that's all.
:lol: Yeah and young players act like that all the time. Get a clue.
So because not every player in the league conforms to your high code of conduct that means they immediately need to be put into counseling? Take off the skirt you freakin drama queen.
Isn't this the straw man argument? That's not what he said at all. I don't know how anyone can look at his behavior and say, yea he's just a kid learning how to grow up.

According to ESPN or nfl.com I forget which one, he apologized at half time to the team. Then he went out and CONTINUED to behave like that. He knew he was hurting the team. Rage over took him and he couldn't control it. So yes, counseling is probably appropriate for him because it's clear he has an anger management issue. Let's hope this doesn't get out of control and become more evident in his every day behavior. The nfl had a pr nightmare last year with individuals with anger issues (Ray rice, hardy, etc).

Beckham want acting like a 22 year old with some growing up to do. He was acting like a thug with no comprehension for anyone's safety, even his own teammates when he flew in with that head shot.
This is exactly the point I was going to make. That is classic inability to control anger. The helmet hit came in the second half after he already acknowledged he was acting like a moron out there. Remember when Haynesworth stepped on the guy's head and afterward said he didn't even remember doing it. That's a boiling rage that needs to be addressed professionally or it's gonna keep happening.Giving the kid a pass because he's young and immature is exactly what enables more of this behavior. And it sounds like the Giants are taking the same tack, at least publicly. It just shows ignorance and is the reason these athletes feel entitled and untouchable.

 
McGarnicle said:
RBM said:
McGarnicle said:
RBM said:
:lmao: Counseling
Yeah, I'm sure his obvious rage issue will work itself out on its own.I give you credit, you're consistent with ignorant posts here and in the FFA.
:lol: You're so dopey.He's a 22 year old hot head. He's got some growing up to do that's all.
:lol: Yeah and young players act like that all the time. Get a clue.
So because not every player in the league conforms to your high code of conduct that means they immediately need to be put into counseling? Take off the skirt you freakin drama queen.
Isn't this the straw man argument? That's not what he said at all. I don't know how anyone can look at his behavior and say, yea he's just a kid learning how to grow up. According to ESPN or nfl.com I forget which one, he apologized at half time to the team. Then he went out and CONTINUED to behave like that. He knew he was hurting the team. Rage over took him and he couldn't control it. So yes, counseling is probably appropriate for him because it's clear he has an anger management issue. Let's hope this doesn't get out of control and become more evident in his every day behavior. The nfl had a pr nightmare last year with individuals with anger issues (Ray rice, hardy, etc).

Beckham want acting like a 22 year old with some growing up to do. He was acting like a thug with no comprehension for anyone's safety, even his own teammates when he flew in with that head shot.
This is exactly the point I was going to make. That is classic inability to control anger. The helmet hit came in the second half after he already acknowledged he was acting like a moron out there. Remember when Haynesworth stepped on the guy's head and afterward said he didn't even remember doing it. That's a boiling rage that needs to be addressed professionally or it's gonna keep happening.Giving the kid a pass because he's young and immature is exactly what enables more of this behavior. And it sounds like the Giants are taking the same tack, at least publicly. It just shows ignorance and is the reason these athletes feel entitled and untouchable.
if Beckham wins his appeal the Giants would be good to come out and say they are going to bench him for his behavior and that this behavior is not going to be tolerated or condoned by the team.

As an ODB owner I would be furious, but it's the right thing to do to say, look we don't approve of this and it's not who we are

 
I wonder why the refs just let them basically fight every play.

It was excellent TV but that level of crap the refs allowed early and often was silly.

 
I wonder why the refs just let them basically fight every play.

It was excellent TV but that level of crap the refs allowed early and often was silly.
They both should have been tossed. I'm glad he wasn't because I needed every yard this week, but I don't get why both weren't ejected on the double personal foul call

 
I wonder why the refs just let them basically fight every play.

It was excellent TV but that level of crap the refs allowed early and often was silly.
They both should have been tossed. I'm glad he wasn't because I needed every yard this week, but I don't get why both weren't ejected on the double personal foul call
One of the first plays i watched Norman just throw OBJ on the ground after a play when OBJ wasnt even engaging him with a ref right there. Nothing. No call no talking to them no nothing.

And they wonder why it escalated.

 
He isnt getting a pass though. Did you miss that part?
I was addressing stupidity like this:
RBM said:
He's a 22 year old hot head. He's got some growing up to do that's all.
That isnt giving him a pass. Its stating what is probably the truth.

I believe that was in reaponse to people say he needs counseling, which was funny
Beckham is one big jam off the line of scrimmage away from joining Isis it would seem.

 
So we're supposed to believe Beckham thought a practice squad player was going to assault him with that bat at some point? Lol. My God I've heard it all now.

 
The enabling continues!!! He is just a sweet, innocent kid who was bullied and scared. He doesnt need counseling, he just needs a few years to grow up, thats all. I remember when I tried to take someone's head off on national tv...ah...the good old days. It sickens me to see how blind OBJ owners are to this "little boys" antics. I mean, he is just a kid right OBJ owners? Maybe counseling isnt the answer. How about a full time babysitter!! That ought to make all the mean, bat carrying, gay slur slinging, meanies go away so OBJ or ODB or BO can go back to being the innocent angel god that he is. Damn the person. As long as he can catch balls with one hand and generate fantasy points we couldnt care less what he does!!! Glad he is suspended and I hope he ruins fantasy titles next week. Take off the blinders. The kid is flawed.

 
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BobbyLayne said:
parasaurolophus said:
Dr. Brew said:
BobbyLayne said:
RBM said:
Hearing a lot of buzz around the league in support of Beckham. Panthers have quite the bad rep as far as cheap shots and trash talk.
Nearly 34 percent of 13,000-plus readers said Beckham deserves a multi-game suspension for his antics.

Over 4,000 voters (nearly 31 percent) said Beckham should sit for a game. In third place? A call for Beckham to receive a fine (26 percent). Just 1,300-plus readers (9 percent) thought the NFL shouldn't do anything to punish the receiver.

NJ.com
Because a news papers website poll is scientifically accurate :lol: come on Bobby you're better than that
a random internet dude citing buzz is much more reliable
NJ.com was the relevant citation. R.I.D. was citing buzz around the country.

But then again, no prophet is honored in his home town, etc.
I never sided with either one. As far as I'm concerned both of you guys have garbage sources. It's about as reliable as the "a guy i know play beer pong with ODB and says that ODB is getting tons of support from players coaches and even federal judges"
It. Was. A. Form. Of. Humor. Known. As. Absurdist. Humor. Sorry. You. Missed. It.
Thanks for the clarification. Can leave the douchbaggery out. That'd be nice. Stay excellent my friend!
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The enabling continues!!! He is just a sweet, innocent kid who was bullied and scared. He doesnt need counseling, he just needs a few years to grow up, thats all. I remember when I tried to take someone's head off on national tv...ah...the good old days. It sickens me to see how blind OBJ owners are to this "little boys" antics. I mean, he is just a kid right OBJ owners? Maybe counseling isnt the answer. How about a full time babysitter!! That ought to make all the mean, bat carrying, gay slur slinging, meanies go away so OBJ or ODB or BO can go back to being the innocent angel god that he is. Damn the person. As long as he can catch balls with one hand and generate fantasy points we couldnt care less what he does!!! Glad he is suspended and I hope he ruins fantasy titles next week. Take off the blinders. The kid is flawed.
Such a horrible post for so many reasons

 
The enabling continues!!! He is just a sweet, innocent kid who was bullied and scared. He doesnt need counseling, he just needs a few years to grow up, thats all. I remember when I tried to take someone's head off on national tv...ah...the good old days. It sickens me to see how blind OBJ owners are to this "little boys" antics. I mean, he is just a kid right OBJ owners? Maybe counseling isnt the answer. How about a full time babysitter!! That ought to make all the mean, bat carrying, gay slur slinging, meanies go away so OBJ or ODB or BO can go back to being the innocent angel god that he is. Damn the person. As long as he can catch balls with one hand and generate fantasy points we couldnt care less what he does!!! Glad he is suspended and I hope he ruins fantasy titles next week. Take off the blinders. The kid is flawed.
Such a horrible post for so many reasons
Cry me a river. Or better yet, blame it on my age. That seems to be the thing to do around here...

 
The enabling continues!!! He is just a sweet, innocent kid who was bullied and scared. He doesnt need counseling, he just needs a few years to grow up, thats all. I remember when I tried to take someone's head off on national tv...ah...the good old days. It sickens me to see how blind OBJ owners are to this "little boys" antics. I mean, he is just a kid right OBJ owners? Maybe counseling isnt the answer. How about a full time babysitter!! That ought to make all the mean, bat carrying, gay slur slinging, meanies go away so OBJ or ODB or BO can go back to being the innocent angel god that he is. Damn the person. As long as he can catch balls with one hand and generate fantasy points we couldnt care less what he does!!! Glad he is suspended and I hope he ruins fantasy titles next week. Take off the blinders. The kid is flawed.
Such a horrible post for so many reasons
Cry me a river. Or better yet, blame it on my age. That seems to be the thing to do around here...
Kind of an odd statement for a guy with what looks like Kurt Cobain as his avatar...

 
The enabling continues!!! He is just a sweet, innocent kid who was bullied and scared. He doesnt need counseling, he just needs a few years to grow up, thats all. I remember when I tried to take someone's head off on national tv...ah...the good old days. It sickens me to see how blind OBJ owners are to this "little boys" antics. I mean, he is just a kid right OBJ owners? Maybe counseling isnt the answer. How about a full time babysitter!! That ought to make all the mean, bat carrying, gay slur slinging, meanies go away so OBJ or ODB or BO can go back to being the innocent angel god that he is. Damn the person. As long as he can catch balls with one hand and generate fantasy points we couldnt care less what he does!!! Glad he is suspended and I hope he ruins fantasy titles next week. Take off the blinders. The kid is flawed.
Such a horrible post for so many reasons
Cry me a river. Or better yet, blame it on my age. That seems to be the thing to do around here...
1. I've seen one owner in the last few pages sympathize with ODB. I don't appreciate being thrown into a category of a "blind ODB owner"2. Because I drafted a guy based off sheer nfl talent I should pay the price to have my fantasy season ruined becuase he is a head case?

3. reading is fun, give it a try...

 
George's favorite team is the Denver Broncos. By his logic, the Denver Broncos losing the Super Bowl was deserving because of Aquib Talibs jaded past. I can't wait for George to talk about how all of the Denver Broncos and their fans never deserve to win a super bowl as long as Talib is on the team. Afterall, who cares what he does as long as he can defend WRs right?

Aggravated assault with a deadly weapon

Beating up cab drivers

Fights with teammates

 
The enabling continues!!! He is just a sweet, innocent kid who was bullied and scared. He doesnt need counseling, he just needs a few years to grow up, thats all. I remember when I tried to take someone's head off on national tv...ah...the good old days. It sickens me to see how blind OBJ owners are to this "little boys" antics. I mean, he is just a kid right OBJ owners? Maybe counseling isnt the answer. How about a full time babysitter!! That ought to make all the mean, bat carrying, gay slur slinging, meanies go away so OBJ or ODB or BO can go back to being the innocent angel god that he is. Damn the person. As long as he can catch balls with one hand and generate fantasy points we couldnt care less what he does!!! Glad he is suspended and I hope he ruins fantasy titles next week. Take off the blinders. The kid is flawed.
Such a horrible post for so many reasons
Cry me a river. Or better yet, blame it on my age. That seems to be the thing to do around here...
1. I've seen one owner in the last few pages sympathize with ODB. I don't appreciate being thrown into a category of a "blind ODB owner"2. Because I drafted a guy based off sheer nfl talent I should pay the price to have my fantasy season ruined becuase he is a head case?

3. reading is fun, give it a try...
2. Yeah, character plays into many fantasy owner's rankings.
 
The enabling continues!!! He is just a sweet, innocent kid who was bullied and scared. He doesnt need counseling, he just needs a few years to grow up, thats all. I remember when I tried to take someone's head off on national tv...ah...the good old days. It sickens me to see how blind OBJ owners are to this "little boys" antics. I mean, he is just a kid right OBJ owners? Maybe counseling isnt the answer. How about a full time babysitter!! That ought to make all the mean, bat carrying, gay slur slinging, meanies go away so OBJ or ODB or BO can go back to being the innocent angel god that he is. Damn the person. As long as he can catch balls with one hand and generate fantasy points we couldnt care less what he does!!! Glad he is suspended and I hope he ruins fantasy titles next week. Take off the blinders. The kid is flawed.
Such a horrible post for so many reasons
Cry me a river. Or better yet, blame it on my age. That seems to be the thing to do around here...
1. I've seen one owner in the last few pages sympathize with ODB. I don't appreciate being thrown into a category of a "blind ODB owner"2. Because I drafted a guy based off sheer nfl talent I should pay the price to have my fantasy season ruined becuase he is a head case?

3. reading is fun, give it a try...
2. Yeah, character plays into many fantasy owner's rankings.
If the guy was often suspended sure. But what I'm pointing out is its not like I'm,condoning his behavior by drafting him... I guess anyone who drafted ADP this yr supports child abuse and deserved to have their fantasy season ruined last year?

Is there past behavior that would have predicted this kind of thuggish behavior that would make me want to avoid him on draft day? Is there a history of this behavior?

I'm right in line with most everyone else saying that he should be suspended. To say, "I hope anyone with him on their team has their season ruined" sounds like sour grapes. Sorry you lost to a guy with ODB George, but let me reassure you that he probably isn't defending him this week.

There's literally one guy defending ODB but George acts like everyone is

 
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For those saying hearing Wednesday, you are apparently full of it:

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/679129300835147776

For now, Odell Beckham Jr's appeal of one-game suspension not expected until Wednesday, per source. No decision yet on appeals officer.

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so it looks like he's trying to drag it out as long as possible with that timeline. odds are the appeal would be heard thursday or friday, decision saturday, which still may come down in time to ban him week 16 regardless. but it's far from a lock.

 
The enabling continues!!! He is just a sweet, innocent kid who was bullied and scared. He doesnt need counseling, he just needs a few years to grow up, thats all. I remember when I tried to take someone's head off on national tv...ah...the good old days. It sickens me to see how blind OBJ owners are to this "little boys" antics. I mean, he is just a kid right OBJ owners? Maybe counseling isnt the answer. How about a full time babysitter!! That ought to make all the mean, bat carrying, gay slur slinging, meanies go away so OBJ or ODB or BO can go back to being the innocent angel god that he is. Damn the person. As long as he can catch balls with one hand and generate fantasy points we couldnt care less what he does!!! Glad he is suspended and I hope he ruins fantasy titles next week. Take off the blinders. The kid is flawed.
Did you eat a big bowl of sanctimony for breakfast or what?

 
For those saying hearing Wednesday, you are apparently full of it:

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/679129300835147776

For now, Odell Beckham Jr's appeal of one-game suspension not expected until Wednesday, per source. No decision yet on appeals officer.
Huh?
Ray Lewis in full enabling mode. What a joke.
Ray Lews killed a guy, why you care what he says?
Because he's looking for the white suit and a good deal on deer antler spray.
 
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For those saying hearing Wednesday, you are apparently full of it:

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/679129300835147776

For now, Odell Beckham Jr's appeal of one-game suspension not expected until Wednesday, per source. No decision yet on appeals officer.
Huh?
Meant 'for those saying decision wednesday'. There are numerous people in this thread saying he has *already appealed*. As much as you want to trust Schefter, that's not the case.

So that changes the timeline for things. If he waits to appeal until the last possible moment, which would be in the Giants best interest if they want him to have a chance to play week 16, then the appeal couldn't be *heard* until Thursday at the absolute earliest, with a decision on Friday. If the appeal takes longer to hear or a decision takes longer to reach, maybe they let him play week 16 and push a possible suspension to week 17.

 
Odell had a helmet to helmet hit. I've never seen such outrage over a vicious hit before. Get over it. Not that big of a deal. NFL as usual handles things poorly and then let's them escalate. NFL media an absolute joke in this as well.

 
norman and obj were both goin at it about the same amount, beckam just landed his cheapshot better and both should have been ejected. not being ejected means that he shouldn't be suspended. Refs blew that game big time.

 
Waiting to see if his hunger strike stuff til commish resigns was actually said or someone making it up.

Even if you subscribe to the doesn't have to like his boss mindset, Commish can spin that around and say he's not fit to play if he's not eating. Make it an unhealthy suspension this week, hear appeal and suspend him from next week's game.

I am going off on a tangent but...I really don't think he should be antagonizing Goodell now.

 
norman and obj were both goin at it about the same amount, beckam just landed his cheapshot better and both should have been ejected. not being ejected means that he shouldn't be suspended. Refs blew that game big time.
So because the refs blew it and didn't throw either of them out, the league should turn a blind eye to a player trying to intentionally injure another by launching his helmet into his head? Wonderful logic.
 
Waiting to see if his hunger strike stuff til commish resigns was actually said or someone making it up.

Even if you subscribe to the doesn't have to like his boss mindset, Commish can spin that around and say he's not fit to play if he's not eating. Make it an unhealthy suspension this week, hear appeal and suspend him from next week's game.

I am going off on a tangent but...I really don't think he should be antagonizing Goodell now.
what's this hunger strike talk about? Who's going on a hunger strike?
 
Let's turn,this discussion back off the gravel road...

Beckham owners, what are you doing this week assuming he's suspended? I was considering picking up Randle...

 
Let's turn,this discussion back off the gravel road...

Beckham owners, what are you doing this week assuming he's suspended? I was considering picking up Randle...
I wish I was in a league where randle was available. I am playing albert Wilson, roddy white or some other junk like that since nothing is on the waiver wire. I am a lock for 2nd place in 3 leagues at least.....

 
Let's turn,this discussion back off the gravel road...

Beckham owners, what are you doing this week assuming he's suspended? I was considering picking up Randle...
Guess I'll have to roll out Travis Benjamin, Donte Moncrief or Wille Snead. Those are the only choices I have since there is nothing left on the WW.

Not sure who I'm going with yet.

 
Odell had a helmet to helmet hit. I've never seen such outrage over a vicious hit before. Get over it. Not that big of a deal. NFL as usual handles things poorly and then let's them escalate. NFL media an absolute joke in this as well.
Yep thats all he did that day. Nothing else.

 

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