King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Pretty sure I saw somewhere that last week Sherman moved around....might have been during highlights....can anyone back this?
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WR Odell Beckham, Jr., MIA (3 Viewers)
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unckeyherb
Footballguy
Nah chad is right. Sherman plays the offenses right side regardless.
Courtweeks87
Footballguy
He shadowed dez the whole game.
chad in Indy
Footballguy
This is true, but is misleading. He only did this because Maxwell was forced out with an injury. Wasn't a game plan, but rather a forced in-game decision. If Maxwell is in, they each stay on their side.
RBM
Footballguy
saintfool
Dead sexy
i expect the Seahawks to jump on the Giants early and play with a big lead. Coughlin and Eli won't back quit though. Garbage time will keep Odell valuable.
Johnny Blood
Footballguy
Seattle D isn't that scary. If people weren't valuing them based on last year's performance and this year's ADP, I don't think there'd be half as much concern.
Why wouldn't the Giants do what the Packers did? Send your worst WR at Sherman all day and throw elsewhere? In that game all Boykin did was occupy Sherman. 0 targets for Boykin. Cobb had a good game, Nelson had an OK game. Giants passing offense is nowhere near the Packers but they're going to score some fantasy points and they'll probably go to Beckham.
Why wouldn't the Giants do what the Packers did? Send your worst WR at Sherman all day and throw elsewhere? In that game all Boykin did was occupy Sherman. 0 targets for Boykin. Cobb had a good game, Nelson had an OK game. Giants passing offense is nowhere near the Packers but they're going to score some fantasy points and they'll probably go to Beckham.
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saintfool
Dead sexy
well, the Giants have been struggling of late. the o-line has been pretty suspect and the running game has been crud with jennings out. it sets up nicely for seattle.
Van Dyman
Footballguy
Maybe not. I thought I saw a quote or interview with Sherman where he explained why he stays on his side, where he basically said shadowing the opponent's best WR would be disrespectful to Byron Maxwell...as it would imply that Maxwell can't cover that guy. Maxwell has been out the last three weeks, and I thought I heard Sherman has been moving around. I didn't see the games, so anyone who knows please clarify. Also, FYI, Pete Carroll said Maxwell "might" be back this week.chad in Indy said:
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rdrouyn
Footballguy
Yeah when they played the Cowboys and Maxwell got hurt he was shadowing Dez and did pretty good all things considered. It seems like he has been moving around a bit more due to injuries.
White Lightning
Footballguy
Don't the Seahawks generally play press coverage? I'm sure they will try the same with OBJ and as a rookie with only a couple of starts under his belt, he may struggle this week. Either way I'm starting him as my WR3 in ppr
White Lightning
Footballguy
Don't the Seahawks generally play press coverage? I'm sure they will try the same with OBJ and as a rookie with only a couple of starts under his belt, he may struggle this week. Either way I'm starting him as my WR3 in ppr
TartanLion
Footballguy
He's sitting in my flex position just now but I would be lying if i said i didn't have my doubts for this week. The alternative is West and unfortunately, a decision has to be made by tonight #hatethursdayfootball
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ahartig
Footballguy
Based on what OdB has shown the past two games, I think he has a higher ceiling, especially with AJ at full health in Cincy. The Giants/Eli would be craZy to not try and get the ball in this kids hands at least 10 times this week.
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Sherman's pride will have him all over Beckham. he might play a side, it might be zone, but when Sherman gets fired up he's all over a defender and if I'm not mistaken Carroll likes that enthusiasm and has zero issue with it.
The NYG/GB offense has so many quick passes, their awesome DL doesn't give a QB any time really, so Sherman can't really sit back either.
Beckham runs some real crisp routes and uses his body better than most veterans.
I want to see this matchup and hope the TV camera crew lets us see it often.
My thinking has always been if some WR can light up Sherman that whole D will fall apart. Teams don't try this, but some day, some team will. Til that day, I guess the Gmen take a few chances at Sherman but otherwise beckham is on an island and the rest will be utilized.
The NYG/GB offense has so many quick passes, their awesome DL doesn't give a QB any time really, so Sherman can't really sit back either.
Beckham runs some real crisp routes and uses his body better than most veterans.
I want to see this matchup and hope the TV camera crew lets us see it often.
My thinking has always been if some WR can light up Sherman that whole D will fall apart. Teams don't try this, but some day, some team will. Til that day, I guess the Gmen take a few chances at Sherman but otherwise beckham is on an island and the rest will be utilized.
Darryl Talley
Footballguy
Who are you guys starting him over this week?
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Right now over Crabtree
Jimbo Slice
Footballguy
Cooks over him
Am I incorrect in thinking that the Seahawks had more trouble with small fast receivers? Sanders had 11-149 against the Seahawks earlier. I know Eli isn't Peyton, but I recall before that game some posts about the small quick WRs being the ones they had trouble with than the bigger guys.
My problem is more with other options that I think could do well, like Evans, Decker and Harvin. I think I will stick with him because I think he is a key component in the Giants offense, i.e. they can't win without him getting lots of looks.
My problem is more with other options that I think could do well, like Evans, Decker and Harvin. I think I will stick with him because I think he is a key component in the Giants offense, i.e. they can't win without him getting lots of looks.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
I really want to start ODB this week, but I just don't trust that Giants offense at Seatlle. I have both Roddy White (mehhh) & Brandin Cooks (beast at home) in over ODB.
Darryl Talley
Footballguy
For what it's worth, Bloom told me ODB over Wallace.... ahhhhhh, I think I'm gonna do it
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=720253&page=3#entry17449500
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Want to start him so badly...sticking with Roddy White over Beckham, Jr.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
I just replaced Brandin Cooks, starting ODB instead. Screw it. I know the matchup is bad, but I just have to believe McAdoo/Eli know that they need to get the ball to ODB.
Darryl Talley
Footballguy
His ceiling is too high. Hope he can burn that over-aggressive defense today.
blake
Footballguy
Thanks for this. Bloom rated Beckham much, much higher than Dodds did. And I always respect Bloom's ratings. But the disparity here and fantasy pros along with Beckham's tough matchup was awful tough for me to ignore. I'm prepared to get burnt with that line of logic though!
fredsavage
Footballguy
When you put a sorry cb like Sherman on ODB THATS THE RESULT YOU GONNA GET
cubbie5150
Footballguy
He's in my lineup, but I could only start 2 of ODB, Roddy & Brandin Cooks. I've talked ish on Roddy all season, but I couldn't bench him against Tampa, so I benched Cooks, but it wasn't a slam dunk for me given the "Cooks is a stud at home" theory/fact + ODB's supposed tough matchup.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I was sold the minute I saw OBJ's pregame warm-ups a month ago.
Xue
Footballguy
fredsavage
Footballguy
ODB just seems like a warrior, Steve smith esque without KOing his teammates part. It's no wonder he broke cooper manning's once untouchable high school receiving records. Eli chose his new toy wisely, hopefully Cruz comes back full strength and this oline gets fixed and we can see some real fireworks
Banger
Footballguy
Much better game than I expected in Seattle vs those CBs. If Eli throws that interception on the outside vs the inside and Beckham probably scores a td on the play. The kid runs great routes, terrific leaping ability, lightning fast and unreal hands. Gonna be an awesome player.
Zyphros
Footballguy
He's Antonio Brown, with arguably better ball skills when its in the air (I think OBJ highpoints it better than AB does). AB might be slightly better with it in his hands though, but thats nitpicking. No way would I rank them close to the same right now, but we are getting good glimpses into this kids future and boy does he shine.
