WR Puka Nacua LAR (2 Viewers)

[N Zone]

oops, I should have set a slightly higher blind bid and I'd have a new starting WR.

 

[styleride85]

15 targets week 1 lmao

Puka laughs at 15 targets and says how about 15 catches week 2 brahs

20 catches on 25 targets next week

 

[Loipz]

So he legit

 

[SyNdi]

I think this is more a scheme/target thing. Put any wr in that rams O and target him alot. I havent really seen any spectacular catches or anything special

 

[RenegadeRoy]

I think this is more a scheme/target thing. Put any wr in that rams O and target him alot. I havent really seen any spectacular catches or anything special

Crisp route running and sure hands. Makes it look easier than it is.

 

[Largent]

I think this is more a scheme/target thing. Put any wr in that rams O and target him alot. I havent really seen any spectacular catches or anything special

this is tongue in cheek right?

 

[QuizGuy66]

Thinking winning my week one fantasy game (7th out of 8 in points beats 8th out of 8 ) might be a fatal error as it cost me getting Puka

-QG

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Thinking winning my week one fantasy game (7th out of 8 in points beats 8th out of 8 ) might be a fatal error as it cost me getting Puka

-QG

...And this is why blind bidding is by far the best way to handle waivers/free agency.

 

[styleride85]

Thinking winning my week one fantasy game (7th out of 8 in points beats 8th out of 8 ) might be a fatal error as it cost me getting Puka

-QG

I mean... you're in an 8 team league, all the rosters are gonna be stacked anyways.

 

[dschuler]

I own in a few spots and will try to sell high. I’m mad that I didn’t try to buy this week in the leagues I didn’t get him… prior to today would a 2nd and 3rd get him?

I don’t think a first will get him at this point unless it’s an early one. He’s outperforming every first round WR pick in recent memory.

 

[humpback]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s not reasonable to expect. Standard deviations are real! It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

 

[LawFitz]

Tupuka Shakur GOAT

 

[DeaLerZ]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s no reasonable to expect. It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

I think he is the "Cooper Kupp" until Kupp comes back, which we have no clue at this point. When he comes back I think he takes more of the "Robert Woods" role. He probably plays a lot in 2 WR sets because he is a good blocker

 

[humpback]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s not reasonable to expect. Standard deviations are real! It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

It was mostly tongue in cheek. However, while he's been great so far, it's only a 2 game sample size. If he stinks it up next week, which there's no reason to expect, it would definitely be a little discouraging. Then if it happens the next week we'd be at 50/50.

I spent a decent amount of FAAB on him and loving the ride, just not sure how long it lasts. To my eye this seems more right place right time than it does him being a special talent, but time will tell.

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s no reasonable to expect. It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

I think he is the "Cooper Kupp" until Kupp comes back, which we have no clue at this point. When he comes back I think he takes more of the "Robert Woods" role. He probably plays a lot in 2 WR sets because he is a good blocker

Good point! I don’t really know the statistics on this kind of stuff. On one hand, Kupp’s return as the #1 WR should eat into targets for Nacua. But Nacua should also have better matchups with top DBs handling Kupp.

No matter the analysis, there is simply no good reason that I can think of to bench Nacua until something happens to warrant it.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

He probably plays a lot in 2 WR sets because he is a good blocker

I noticed that in yesterday's game. There was a run in the first half where he basically saved Williams from getting blasted behind the line of scrimmage.

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s not reasonable to expect. Standard deviations are real! It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

It was mostly tongue in cheek. However, while he's been great so far, it's only a 2 game sample size. If he stinks it up next week, which there's no reason to expect, it would definitely be a little discouraging. Then if it happens the next week we'd be at 50/50.

I spent a decent amount of FAAB on him and loving the ride, just not sure how long it lasts. To my eye this seems more right place right time than it does him being a special talent, but time will tell.

Yeah it’s way too early to know how much is talent versus opportunity versus a statistical aberration. That said, I won’t be discouraged no matter the performance. And a modest game like 6/50 wouldn’t be a surprise. Nor would I be surprised if he finds the end zone a couple times either.

I did some very rough calculations and around 1 out of 13 completions is a TD and there are around 149 receiving yards per TD. So if we normalize the TD numbers as related to receptions and receiving yards, Puka should have around a pair of scores by now save for the magic of statistical variation.

 

[habsfan]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s not reasonable to expect. Standard deviations are real! It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

It was mostly tongue in cheek. However, while he's been great so far, it's only a 2 game sample size. If he stinks it up next week, which there's no reason to expect, it would definitely be a little discouraging. Then if it happens the next week we'd be at 50/50.

I spent a decent amount of FAAB on him and loving the ride, just not sure how long it lasts. To my eye this seems more right place right time than it does him being a special talent, but time will tell.

It might literally be "right place. right time" (as in, being where Stafford expects him to be). He just seems to move really well, be really reliable and have a lot of maturity to his game.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Great day for all of us Puka truthers! This is only the beginning!

Amen. Been on him since Waldman’s RSP in June. Thank youy, Matt Waldman.

Only have 2 shares in redraft though. Silly me - I thought I had enough receiver depth.


Lesson: you can always use a Puka Nacua.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s not reasonable to expect. Standard deviations are real! It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

It was mostly tongue in cheek. However, while he's been great so far, it's only a 2 game sample size. If he stinks it up next week, which there's no reason to expect, it would definitely be a little discouraging. Then if it happens the next week we'd be at 50/50.

I spent a decent amount of FAAB on him and loving the ride, just not sure how long it lasts. To my eye this seems more right place right time than it does him being a special talent, but time will tell.

Yeah it’s way too early to know how much is talent versus opportunity versus a statistical aberration. That said, I won’t be discouraged no matter the performance. And a modest game like 6/50 wouldn’t be a surprise. Nor would I be surprised if he finds the end zone a couple times either.

I did some very rough calculations and around 1 out of 13 completions is a TD and there are around 149 receiving yards per TD. So if we normalize the TD numbers as related to receptions and receiving yards, Puka should have around a pair of scores by now save for the magic of statistical variation.

I think it’s a bit of both.
The Kupp injury only accelerated the inevitable, IMO. Rams were very high on him when they drafted him, and they’ve been disappointed in Atwell, though Atwell seems to have also stepped up his game as well.

I believe he’s legit - assuming no setbacks, his coverage will be softer after Kupp returns.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I did some very rough calculations and around 1 out of 13 completions is a TD and there are around 149 receiving yards per TD. So if we normalize the TD numbers as related to receptions and receiving yards, Puka should have around a pair of scores by now save for the magic of statistical variation.

Which tells me he’s due for regression, and a 3 TD game is coming.

 

[DeaLerZ]

I did some very rough calculations and around 1 out of 13 completions is a TD and there are around 149 receiving yards per TD. So if we normalize the TD numbers as related to receptions and receiving yards, Puka should have around a pair of scores by now save for the magic of statistical variation.

Which tells me he’s due for regression, and a 3 TD game is coming.

hope so... 0-2, an 1-1 doesn't feel great

 

[humpback]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s not reasonable to expect. Standard deviations are real! It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

It was mostly tongue in cheek. However, while he's been great so far, it's only a 2 game sample size. If he stinks it up next week, which there's no reason to expect, it would definitely be a little discouraging. Then if it happens the next week we'd be at 50/50.

I spent a decent amount of FAAB on him and loving the ride, just not sure how long it lasts. To my eye this seems more right place right time than it does him being a special talent, but time will tell.

Yeah it’s way too early to know how much is talent versus opportunity versus a statistical aberration. That said, I won’t be discouraged no matter the performance. And a modest game like 6/50 wouldn’t be a surprise. Nor would I be surprised if he finds the end zone a couple times either.

I did some very rough calculations and around 1 out of 13 completions is a TD and there are around 149 receiving yards per TD. So if we normalize the TD numbers as related to receptions and receiving yards, Puka should have around a pair of scores by now save for the magic of statistical variation.

Agree to disagree. Like I said, I would be discouraged if he has a bad performance because there's no reason to expect it- the reason he's so valuable is because they are absolutely peppering him with targets right now, if that stops I'm not sure how else to describe it other than discouraging. Hopefully we don't have to find out!

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I did some very rough calculations and around 1 out of 13 completions is a TD and there are around 149 receiving yards per TD. So if we normalize the TD numbers as related to receptions and receiving yards, Puka should have around a pair of scores by now save for the magic of statistical variation.

Which tells me he’s due for regression, and a 3 TD game is coming.

A big TD game at some point soon wouldn’t be a surprise with the kind of action he’s getting.

 

[titusbramble]

I own in a few spots and will try to sell high. I’m mad that I didn’t try to buy this week in the leagues I didn’t get him… prior to today would a 2nd and 3rd get him?

I don’t think a first will get him at this point unless it’s an early one. He’s outperforming every first round WR pick in recent memory.

I don't know what it would take for me to deal Nacua right now. If I was offered a first I would think a lot about it, but that is more down to the rest of my WR strength. It's a gamble - I have nicknamed him Kupp 2.0 in my league but he could easily regress somewhat when 1.0 returns and the market has been missed

 

[greenmountaingoat]

Only have one share across 3 dynasty leagues. My dude in the one league I have him in tried to get me to sell for a third today. Almost countered for a first but then again, I might rather see how the rest of this ride goes.

 

[Chaka]

I wonder if anyone has told Stafford that there are other receivers on the team.

 

[titusbramble]

I wonder if anyone has told Stafford that there are other receivers on the team.

I wonder if it would matter if they did

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I wonder if anyone has told Stafford that there are other receivers on the team.

I hope they never do.

 

[humpback]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s not reasonable to expect. Standard deviations are real! It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

It was mostly tongue in cheek. However, while he's been great so far, it's only a 2 game sample size. If he stinks it up next week, which there's no reason to expect, it would definitely be a little discouraging. Then if it happens the next week we'd be at 50/50.

I spent a decent amount of FAAB on him and loving the ride, just not sure how long it lasts. To my eye this seems more right place right time than it does him being a special talent, but time will tell.

It might literally be "right place. right time" (as in, being where Stafford expects him to be). He just seems to move really well, be really reliable and have a lot of maturity to his game.

Yep, might be. From what I've seen, I think it's more just that he's the best of a poor bunch right now. I'm afraid that if/when Kupp returns he's going to be the one getting peppered with targets, and he'll do a lot more with them. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[GoBirds]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s not reasonable to expect. Standard deviations are real! It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

It was mostly tongue in cheek. However, while he's been great so far, it's only a 2 game sample size. If he stinks it up next week, which there's no reason to expect, it would definitely be a little discouraging. Then if it happens the next week we'd be at 50/50.

I spent a decent amount of FAAB on him and loving the ride, just not sure how long it lasts. To my eye this seems more right place right time than it does him being a special talent, but time will tell.

It might literally be "right place. right time" (as in, being where Stafford expects him to be). He just seems to move really well, be really reliable and have a lot of maturity to his game.

Yep, might be. From what I've seen, I think it's more just that he's the best of a poor bunch right now. I'm afraid that if/when Kupp returns he's going to be the one getting peppered with targets, and he'll do a lot more with them. Hope I'm wrong.

Yeah, Kupp always gets peppered with targets. Unfortunately he’s not in the field much and after him there’s not much else.

 

[pinkstapler]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s not reasonable to expect. Standard deviations are real! It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

It was mostly tongue in cheek. However, while he's been great so far, it's only a 2 game sample size. If he stinks it up next week, which there's no reason to expect, it would definitely be a little discouraging. Then if it happens the next week we'd be at 50/50.

I spent a decent amount of FAAB on him and loving the ride, just not sure how long it lasts. To my eye this seems more right place right time than it does him being a special talent, but time will tell.

It might literally be "right place. right time" (as in, being where Stafford expects him to be). He just seems to move really well, be really reliable and have a lot of maturity to his game.

Yep, might be. From what I've seen, I think it's more just that he's the best of a poor bunch right now. I'm afraid that if/when Kupp returns he's going to be the one getting peppered with targets, and he'll do a lot more with them. Hope I'm wrong.

He's averaging 10.5 YPC. What is it that Kupp is going to do that's "a lot more" than Puka is doing? Honestly it sounds like you're grossly underselling what we just watched this 5th round rookie do. Being "the best of a poor bunch" doesn't land you 25 receptions on 35 targets across two weeks. Unless someone just forgot to tell that to the KC WR room....

Despite already drawing the ire in the Kupp thread, I think we need to start asking what the reality is here? Is Stafford and this scheme making good WRs put up elite numbers? If that's not the case, and you just think Kupp is elite; then how are we not going to say that maybe Puka is making a case for potentially getting close that as well (in a granted very small sample size).

It seems really disingenuous to say Kupp and the numbers he put up in the past lay squarely on his own talent and abilities, but then Puka is doing what he's doing just because he's the only one for Stafford to throw to.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

I would just like to jump in on the Boldin comparisons - Boldin is a really good WR and I am by no means saying Puka Nacua is better than Anquan Boldin, but I will emphatically say - Matt Stafford is a billion times better than Jeff Blake. That is the difference.

Expectations of a reduction in targets/catches should probably be tempered, because Stafford has shown a propensity to 1. lock onto WR's and provide them consistent targets 2. be better than Jeff Blake.

I realize Puka isn't going to continue on the pace he's on and hauling in 425 catches for 4,522 yards, but while Kupp is out - I don't see his floor being anything but 15 ppg.

Needless to say, my expectations are not tapered.

 

[Hoh]

Please raise hand if you picked up Puka, left him on your bench bc you didn’t believe week 1 could possibly happen again, lost bc of that decision, and yet are thrilled he’s on your team.

Imagine my surprise to cheer like crazy for him yesterday only to discover this morning I misclicked my lineup and somehow started JuJu.

 

[DeaLerZ]

I will not be discouraged if week three is 3/7 and 47 yards.

F that noise

Obviously most of us would like to see 100+ and a TD every week but that’s just not realistic. Possible but not likely.

If we (arbitrarily) look back to Bolden‘s rookie year with the big breakout debut…he still had low games of 3/29, 3/33, 4/33 and 5/27. Extrapolate that out and he’d have had less than 500 yards in his rookie year. I guess we could arbitrarily look back at CKupp’s 2021 season where nearly every game was 100 yards and he did average a TD but that’s not reasonable to expect. Standard deviations are real! It’s reasonable and likely that Puka is going to have some reversion to the mean here statistically. No way he keeps this pace of 2261 yards or that he has no touchdowns. His first games were so big, if he has 34 yards next week, he’s still pacing 1700 yards. If he remains healthy the reason of the year and he matches Boldin’s performance this year, then he would have 1377/8 which would be pretty terrific.

There are many ways to cut the numbers but the bottom line for me is that Puka looks like a must start in the coming weeks even if his numbers are pedestrian.

It was mostly tongue in cheek. However, while he's been great so far, it's only a 2 game sample size. If he stinks it up next week, which there's no reason to expect, it would definitely be a little discouraging. Then if it happens the next week we'd be at 50/50.

I spent a decent amount of FAAB on him and loving the ride, just not sure how long it lasts. To my eye this seems more right place right time than it does him being a special talent, but time will tell.

It might literally be "right place. right time" (as in, being where Stafford expects him to be). He just seems to move really well, be really reliable and have a lot of maturity to his game.

Yep, might be. From what I've seen, I think it's more just that he's the best of a poor bunch right now. I'm afraid that if/when Kupp returns he's going to be the one getting peppered with targets, and he'll do a lot more with them. Hope I'm wrong.

He's averaging 10.5 YPC. What is it that Kupp is going to do that's "a lot more" than Puka is doing? Honestly it sounds like you're grossly underselling what we just watched this 5th round rookie do. Being "the best of a poor bunch" doesn't land you 25 receptions on 35 targets across two weeks. Unless someone just forgot to tell that to the KC WR room....

Despite already drawing the ire in the Kupp thread, I think we need to start asking what the reality is here? Is Stafford and this scheme making good WRs put up elite numbers? If that's not the case, and you just think Kupp is elite; then how are we not going to say that maybe Puka is making a case for potentially getting close that as well (in a granted very small sample size).

It seems really disingenuous to say Kupp and the numbers he put up in the past lay squarely on his own talent and abilities, but then Puka is doing what he's doing just because he's the only one for Stafford to throw to.

Again he was PFF #1 WR last year in college football, and #1 in WR efficiency. Due to poorly timed injuries his draft stock fell. He is a great WR, a great blocker, and fits their system perfectly

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I realize Puka isn't going to continue on the pace he's on and hauling in 425 catches for 4,522 yards, but while Kupp is out - I don't see his floor being anything but 15 ppg.

If Puka averages just 6 receptions and 80 yards from here on out regardless of TDs, it’ll still be an incredible rookie season.

 

[DeaLerZ]

I realize Puka isn't going to continue on the pace he's on and hauling in 425 catches for 4,522 yards, but while Kupp is out - I don't see his floor being anything but 15 ppg.

If Puka averages just 6 receptions and 80 yards from here on out regardless of TDs, it’ll still be an incredible rookie season.

if he did that he would be neck and neck with the rookie receiving record for most yards in a season with 1466. The Most being 1473 (1960 Bill Groman)

 

[Largent]

"when Kupp comes back" should be IF he comes back. Two hammy pulls in 30 days with nerve problems doesn't scream like he's for certain coming back. Let's say he does suit up, the odds of re-injury are > 30% I would guess.

that's all I have to say on that.

 

[ZADO]

i have one question...whos covering this guy on the field ????

 

[GPS]

I wonder if anyone has told Stafford that there are other receivers on the team.

Keep them words out your mouth!

 

[RenegadeRoy]

"when Kupp comes back" should be IF he comes back. Two hammy pulls in 30 days with nerve problems doesn't scream like he's for certain coming back. Let's say he does suit up, the odds of re-injury are > 30% I would guess.

that's all I have to say on that.

And with Puka doing what he's doing the Rams aren't going to be in a hurry to bring Kupp back.

I also stand by the idea that Tutu is going to be the one effected most by Kupp's potential return.

 

[Scooby1974]

i have one question...whos covering this guy on the field ????

Nobody so far.

 

[FarFromHome]

I missed it. How'd he do in his tough matchup vs niners?

 

[humpback]

He's averaging 10.5 YPC. What is it that Kupp is going to do that's "a lot more" than Puka is doing? Honestly it sounds like you're grossly underselling what we just watched this 5th round rookie do. Being "the best of a poor bunch" doesn't land you 25 receptions on 35 targets across two weeks. Unless someone just forgot to tell that to the KC WR room....

Despite already drawing the ire in the Kupp thread, I think we need to start asking what the reality is here? Is Stafford and this scheme making good WRs put up elite numbers? If that's not the case, and you just think Kupp is elite; then how are we not going to say that maybe Puka is making a case for potentially getting close that as well (in a granted very small sample size).

It seems really disingenuous to say Kupp and the numbers he put up in the past lay squarely on his own talent and abilities, but then Puka is doing what he's doing just because he's the only one for Stafford to throw to.

We can start with the stat you gave- Kupp's career ypc is 12.5, and in his only full year with Stafford it was 13.4. Then we can talk about his ability to make guys miss, break tackles, get rac, beat guys deep, etc.- all things he's shown much more ability to do than Puka has shown so far.

That's exactly what I'm doing, asking what is the reality here? I think the reality is that he's a good WR who is taking advantage of all of the stars aligning more so than he's an elite WR. In Kupp's case, I think it's both- it's a very WR friendly system and he's an elite WR (when healthy). Of course, we may never see a fully healthy Kupp again.

So, considering I never said the numbers Kupp put up in the past lay squarely on his own talent and abilities, it's disingenuous to claim I did. I know it's blasphemous to have a difference of opinion, but I'm anything but disingenuous. I already said I spent a good chunk of FAAB on him in my biggest $ league, which happens to be a large keeper league. I'd love nothing more than for him to be the next 2021 Kupp, I just don't see it (yet).

Again he was PFF #1 WR last year in college football, and #1 in WR efficiency. Due to poorly timed injuries his draft stock fell. He is a great WR, a great blocker, and fits their system perfectly

This may be so, but hard to put any stock in that. JSN barely saw the field and yet was still drafted in the 1st round and was the #1 WR overall- if Puka was anywhere near the best WR in college football last year he wouldn't have made it to the very last pick of the 5th round unless he blew out both achilles'.

To be clear, I'm not saying he isn't a good WR, I think he is. I just don't think he's elite, and I'm trying to figure out his long term prospects. Agreed he fits their system, just not sure what that translates to in FF IF they get Kupp back healthy.

 

[DeaLerZ]

He's averaging 10.5 YPC. What is it that Kupp is going to do that's "a lot more" than Puka is doing? Honestly it sounds like you're grossly underselling what we just watched this 5th round rookie do. Being "the best of a poor bunch" doesn't land you 25 receptions on 35 targets across two weeks. Unless someone just forgot to tell that to the KC WR room....

Despite already drawing the ire in the Kupp thread, I think we need to start asking what the reality is here? Is Stafford and this scheme making good WRs put up elite numbers? If that's not the case, and you just think Kupp is elite; then how are we not going to say that maybe Puka is making a case for potentially getting close that as well (in a granted very small sample size).

It seems really disingenuous to say Kupp and the numbers he put up in the past lay squarely on his own talent and abilities, but then Puka is doing what he's doing just because he's the only one for Stafford to throw to.

We can start with the stat you gave- Kupp's career ypc is 12.5, and in his only full year with Stafford it was 13.4. Then we can talk about his ability to make guys miss, break tackles, get rac, beat guys deep, etc.- all things he's shown much more ability to do than Puka has shown so far.

That's exactly what I'm doing, asking what is the reality here? I think the reality is that he's a good WR who is taking advantage of all of the stars aligning more so than he's an elite WR. In Kupp's case, I think it's both- it's a very WR friendly system and he's an elite WR (when healthy). Of course, we may never see a fully healthy Kupp again.

So, considering I never said the numbers Kupp put up in the past lay squarely on his own talent and abilities, it's disingenuous to claim I did. I know it's blasphemous to have a difference of opinion, but I'm anything but disingenuous. I already said I spent a good chunk of FAAB on him in my biggest $ league, which happens to be a large keeper league. I'd love nothing more than for him to be the next 2021 Kupp, I just don't see it (yet).

Again he was PFF #1 WR last year in college football, and #1 in WR efficiency. Due to poorly timed injuries his draft stock fell. He is a great WR, a great blocker, and fits their system perfectly

This may be so, but hard to put any stock in that. JSN barely saw the field and yet was still drafted in the 1st round and was the #1 WR overall- if Puka was anywhere near the best WR in college football last year he wouldn't have made it to the very last pick of the 5th round unless he blew out both achilles'.

To be clear, I'm not saying he isn't a good WR, I think he is. I just don't think he's elite, and I'm trying to figure out his long term prospects. Agreed he fits their system, just not sure what that translates to in FF IF they get Kupp back healthy.

Yea I hear that. Personally, I think the Rams found the perfect system WR for them. He is tough, smart, has great hands, runs great routes, and is a good blocker. I don't think they are going to run Kupp into the ground if/when he comes back because they don't want him to get re-injured and they want him healthy down the stretch. I think Puca will continue to be used a lot to how he is being used now the first few weeks Kupp comes back.

If/When Kupp appears to be back at full health I still think Puca becomes a very solid WR 2/3 with upside every week due to the system. They pass the ball a ton in that offense. I also think he will be in a lot of 2 WR sets because he is a good blocker. Kyren Williams is a "jack of all trades" type back, but he is not a 25 carry guy, and I think they will continue to use Puca and Kupp as extensions of the run game. The other thing you have to consider is that if he is a great WR which he appears to be on track to be that Kupp will take away the best coverage and Puca will have even better matchups that Stafford can exploit. Why would I force feed Kupp if I trust Puca as well ?

 

[LawFitz]

if Puka was anywhere near the best WR in college football last year he wouldn't have made it to the very last pick of the 5th round

Terrell Davis. Tom Brady. **** happens.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

if Puka was anywhere near the best WR in college football last year he wouldn't have made it to the very last pick of the 5th round

Terrell Davis. Tom Brady. **** happens.

Was about to say this exact thing. Where a player gets drafted out of college means absolutely zero once they're on the NFL field.

 

[barackdhouse]

I wonder if anyone has told Stafford that there are other receivers on the team.

Tutu got 9 targets went 7/77 isn't terrible. Kyren Williams 10 targets Higbee 7.

Puka 20. Lol

 

[Loipz]

This many targets to start a career puts Puka in rare company. Kids not gonna just go away after this start. Happy I jumped at him for half my FAAB.