Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
Honestly, for a big man who was supposed to be this large, exceptional athlete, I never thought he looked all that great physically unless he was up to full speed and running with the ball in his hands. He had a few nice moves to get space for some YAC but apart from that, meh
Yep - again; at the next level, everyone is bigger stronger faster.
Hmm that sounds like the opposite of what I saw.
Fair enough.
That’s all a fair take.
Adams did look pretty bad after his first two years. I actually picked him up from a Packers fan for an early 3rd and some TE I can't even remember before the 2016 season.
It's easy to write guys off after year one. Everyone wants instant gratification these days.
Please do it in money leagues and report results at the end of the year.
.....or we could be having the same conversation this time next year.
Oh there’ll be a couple. Always are.
Agree with both you.
He has to be a buy, because you can't sell him for much, even with an obvious opening for him at this moment. I'm pretty sure you can get him cheap if you're willing to roll the dice. He's probably worth a 3rd round rookie dart throw.
Jesus... a 3rd? we give up on young players too easliy these days
You're right, but that's my guess as to what his value currently is in dynasty leagues. Once you stink, and in his case can't get open and drops, it takes more than a quick 5 minute opportunity opening shower to wash it off. You might find someone buying at a late 2nd, or in some weird cases a mid-to-early 2nd, but I would think those are outliers. That's why I said a 3rd on average, but I could be wrong. Anyone have any recent deals to post?
This is why he is a hold. I own him and would not trade him for a mid second, much less a third.
You're 100% correct, he is a hold.
That sounds nice, but warts are warts. Can he all of sudden learn how to separate? I believe he had 3 drops on 38 receptions last year, but his last year in college his drop rate was alarming. Quentin Johnston had the ninth-highest drop rate (11.8%) of any NCAA WR with at least 90 targets his last season in college. Zay Flowers ranked 18th (10.3%). Only 2 WRs from 2018-2022 were drafted in round one with a 10%+ drop rate: Jalen Reagor and Rashod Bateman.
Agreed his metrics are bad, although some WRs have rough starts and figure it out. I don’t have much faith that he’ll be one of those guys that figure it out, but what they do in the draft will go a long way towards what the new coaching staff (a very astute one) thinks about him.
It boils down to show me something. All we have to go on is what were his problems were his rookie year and college production and issues. I'm not sure how he improves his separation issues. Perhaps improve technique, but that is one issue that is probably the worst one to have IMO. As for drops, I'm not sure 3 drops in 38 receptions is that big of a deal right now, even though he had such a high drop rate his last year in college. I worry less about that than I do with his inability to get open.
Back In Adams rookie year I was targeting high upside guys. I missed out out on him during the draft unfortunately. But, even more unfortunately I backed out of trading my early third round pick for him because he looked so bad.
I'm sure most would, but the owners of Johnston probably wouldn't sell for that. The bigger question for you, is would you give a 2nd?
Even I would buy at a 3rd.
2.12 - 2.16? Sure.
I think you can add some other names that could be in that range in a start 1qb leagues, such as Jaylen Wright, Ladd McConkey, J J McCarthy, Michael Penix, Bo Nix, Blake Corum, Audric Estime, Javon Baker, Keon Coleman, Will Shipley, Ja'Tavion Sanders, Malichi Corely. I expect McConkey go go earlier than 2.08, but he could fall in some leagues. I expect Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye to go before 2.08 in most 1qb leagues, but that isn't a guarantee by any means. I expect Jonathan Brooks and Trey Benson to be gone before 2.08. I expect Leggett to go before 2.08, but is that a guarantee? Troy Franklin could fall, but I expect he will go before 2.08. All of this is talking about 1qb leagues. It obviously changes in SF with many more QBs going earlier and some of these players dropping more.
Funny, I was looking at Legette, and i was thinking this is probably like trading QJ for QJ.
|
| Sun Apr 7 9:00 a.m. | ||
| Comments: | Resp: I used a 1st round pick on him last year. He should be the #1 WR for the Chargers this year. I'm content to let him sit on my TS for another year if necessary, unless you want to give up a 1st for him. |
Of course those who spent a 1st on him want to wait and see what happens with him, rather than take a loss. They may not be saying this at this time next year, but who knows, maybe he gains value. I suspect he won't. I personally wouldn't give a 2nd round pick for him, but that's me. I see too much that is wrong with him, as explained earlier.
If he's covered in 2024, they will look to someone else.
