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WR Rashee Rice, KC (2 Viewers)

TheWinz said:
Chaka said:
TheWinz said:
While Rashee is out, how will the WR targets play out? Through the first 4 games:
Worthy - 3, 4, 4, 4 = 15
Watson - 1, 2, 2, 3 = 8
Smith-Schuster - 1, 0, 3, 0 = 4
Moore - 0, 0, 0, 2 = 2
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Your post would be more useful if.you also included Rice's targets. Kelce's too. Otherwise I would say they each get 100 more targets.
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I was only asking how the WR targets would be distributed for the foreseeable future. Maybe something like?

Worthy - 30%
Smith-Schuster - 30%
Watson - 20%
Moore - 10%
Hardman - 10%
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The problem with your logic is there arent "wr targets" Rice was averaging 10 targets a game. Assuming the same number of targets need to be distributed ( not even a good assumption since its entirely possible KC has less passing without their best weapon) but assuming there are 10.....what if Kelce gets 5 more targets? Now we are down to 5 "wr targets".... Heck hypothetically all 10 could go to Kelce..then what? So to answer your question the way you arent willing to admit it should be answered: I would expect 3-5 more targets for Kelce, 2-4 more targets for worthy, and 2 -4 targets spread out between everybody else. Simply pit I expect Kelce to benefit the most, worthy gets slight bump and the rest dont move the needle enough to matter.
 
da_budman said:
The problem with your logic is there arent "wr targets" Rice was averaging 10 targets a game. Assuming the same number of targets need to be distributed ( not even a good assumption since its entirely possible KC has less passing without their best weapon) but assuming there are 10.....what if Kelce gets 5 more targets? Now we are down to 5 "wr targets".... Heck hypothetically all 10 could go to Kelce..then what? So to answer your question the way you arent willing to admit it should be answered: I would expect 3-5 more targets for Kelce, 2-4 more targets for worthy, and 2 -4 targets spread out between everybody else. Simply pit I expect Kelce to benefit the most, worthy gets slight bump and the rest dont move the needle enough to matter.
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None of what you say matters to what I am asking. I just want to know how people rank the KC WR's from top to bottom fantasy-wise while Rice and Brown are out. For example, if I said the Vikings, you might say Jefferson, Addison, Nailor, Powell, Sherfield, and Jackson. Now, I'm not saying Nailor, Powell, Sherfield, or Jackson should be in your starting lineups or even on a roster. After all my yapping, only 1 person replied saying they would rank Worthy 1st, then Juju 2nd, but then they stopped and didn't name any other KC WR's. Here is what I am asking:

1 - Xavier Worthy
2 - Juju Smith-Schuster
3 - Justin Watson
4 - Skyy Moore
5 - Mecole Hardman

See how I didn't even mention Travis Kelce or how good the players are? I only ranked the KC WR's for fantasy. It's that simple. But guess what? Someone will reply and find a way to name a player who isn't a WR currently on the Chiefs. At this point I feel like people are just trying to get a rise out of me!
 
I don't think much of JJS-S.
I think less of Moore and Hardman.

Mahomes has said previously that he likes how Justin Watson presents himself on the field as a target.

75% catch rate (2nd for WR on the Team, behind Rice). The only Player with more targets and a higher catch rate is Noah Gray, and I'm positive he's not the answer.

Watson is likely free. That's where I'm going, although in all likelyhood it's Kelce, followed by a committee, led by Worthy.
 
TheWinz said:
da_budman said:
The problem with your logic is there arent "wr targets" Rice was averaging 10 targets a game. Assuming the same number of targets need to be distributed ( not even a good assumption since its entirely possible KC has less passing without their best weapon) but assuming there are 10.....what if Kelce gets 5 more targets? Now we are down to 5 "wr targets".... Heck hypothetically all 10 could go to Kelce..then what? So to answer your question the way you arent willing to admit it should be answered: I would expect 3-5 more targets for Kelce, 2-4 more targets for worthy, and 2 -4 targets spread out between everybody else. Simply pit I expect Kelce to benefit the most, worthy gets slight bump and the rest dont move the needle enough to matter.
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None of what you say matters to what I am asking. I just want to know how people rank the KC WR's from top to bottom fantasy-wise while Rice and Brown are out. For example, if I said the Vikings, you might say Jefferson, Addison, Nailor, Powell, Sherfield, and Jackson. Now, I'm not saying Nailor, Powell, Sherfield, or Jackson should be in your starting lineups or even on a roster. After all my yapping, only 1 person replied saying they would rank Worthy 1st, then Juju 2nd, but then they stopped and didn't name any other KC WR's. Here is what I am asking:

1 - Xavier Worthy
2 - Juju Smith-Schuster
3 - Justin Watson
4 - Skyy Moore
5 - Mecole Hardman

See how I didn't even mention Travis Kelce or how good the players are? I only ranked the KC WR's for fantasy. It's that simple. But guess what? Someone will reply and find a way to name a player who isn't a WR currently on the Chiefs. At this point I feel like people are just trying to get a rise out of me!
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See how you didnt mention wide receiver targets this time like thats a thing? I believe I did answered your question btw... Worthy gets a small bump and the rest dont even matter.
 
I mean come on. Can we just leave this alone. We don't need to pile on. People make mistakes and clearly taking a package that isn't yours is wrong and reckless driving endangering others is wrong. Calling them POS as if everyone hasn't made mistakes in their life seems excessive.
 
So, I was listening to KC talk radio yesterday at lunch. And it sounds like he is getting a second opinion. Now, I'm not in KC anymore so I'm not as dialed in as normal, but to me this could mean a couple things:

1. The ACL is intact but there is other damage. But to me, if that's the case, you don't need a second opinion. You rehab for a few weeks and get it on.

2. The ACL is torn with other damage. To me, this is cut and dried too. You have the surgery and rehab your *** off for next year.

3. The ACL is partially torn. This is the likely scenario to me WHY you would get a second opinion. If it's partially torn, my guess is the Chiefs would want him to have the surgery now, knowing that it's probable it's going to tear again so they would rather do the surgery now so he is ready for next season. Rice's angle would be: he needs to play so he can accrue stats to put him in line for a big payday down the road. He has some pending cases coming up. And possible judgements soon. He needs to get paid as soon as possible.

This is all speculation by me, so take it for what it's worth. But I certainly wouldn't drop him or trade him yet.
 
smbkrypt24 said:
I mean come on. Can we just leave this alone. We don't need to pile on. People make mistakes and clearly taking a package that isn't yours is wrong and reckless driving endangering others is wrong. Calling them POS as if everyone hasn't made mistakes in their life seems excessive.
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Sunday's alleged theft of a neighbor's package was not the first time Rashee Rice's mom has been accused of stealing this year ... she was actually arrested in the spring over similar allegations.
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BladeRunner said:
smbkrypt24 said:
I mean come on. Can we just leave this alone. We don't need to pile on. People make mistakes and clearly taking a package that isn't yours is wrong and reckless driving endangering others is wrong. Calling them POS as if everyone hasn't made mistakes in their life seems excessive.
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Sunday's alleged theft of a neighbor's package was not the first time Rashee Rice's mom has been accused of stealing this year ... she was actually arrested in the spring over similar allegations.
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I thought he was being sarcastic.
 
smbkrypt24 said:
I mean come on. Can we just leave this alone. We don't need to pile on. People make mistakes and clearly taking a package that isn't yours is wrong and reckless driving endangering others is wrong. Calling them POS as if everyone hasn't made mistakes in their life seems excessive.
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I'm too old to candy-coat things. Rashee wasn't a POS while he was driving recklessly and endangering others. He became a POS the minute he decided to leave the scene of the accident. The porch pirate became a POS the minute she had the package in her hand. These 2 acts were not mistakes. A mistake would be spelling something wrong or accidentally banging into someone's car in a parking lot. These were both conscious choices made by POS's. They have both earned their titles.
 
Not that anyone cares, but I chickened out and pulled that Rice for Amari waiver transaction last night.

Nobody ended up claiming Cooper, lol so he's just sitting there taunting me.
 
smbkrypt24 said:
I mean come on. Can we just leave this alone. We don't need to pile on. People make mistakes and clearly taking a package that isn't yours is wrong and reckless driving endangering others is wrong. Calling them POS as if everyone hasn't made mistakes in their life seems excessive.
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OK, but as Winz pointed out, leaving the scene wasn't a "mistake". It was a decision made more than likely based on him being high or intoxicated. Now many here called that move "smart" but I don't think it's unfair for anyone with a different viewpoint to think Rice is a POS.


An adult who should know better stealing packages off someone's doorstep or porch does make them a POS. Sorry
 
TheWinz said:
smbkrypt24 said:
I mean come on. Can we just leave this alone. We don't need to pile on. People make mistakes and clearly taking a package that isn't yours is wrong and reckless driving endangering others is wrong. Calling them POS as if everyone hasn't made mistakes in their life seems excessive.
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I'm too old to candy-coat things. Rashee wasn't a POS while he was driving recklessly and endangering others. He became a POS the minute he decided to leave the scene of the accident. The porch pirate became a POS the minute she had the package in her hand. These 2 acts were not mistakes. A mistake would be spelling something wrong or accidentally banging into someone's car in a parking lot. These were both conscious choices made by POS's. They have both earned their titles.
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And judging them from your morale high ground labeling them POS accomplishes what?
This is a Rashee Rice thread so bringing his family into this and also labeling his mother a POS. What purpose?

We can not like what they both did I just don't see the purpose of piling on with calling him and his mother POS.
 
smbkrypt24 said:
TheWinz said:
smbkrypt24 said:
I mean come on. Can we just leave this alone. We don't need to pile on. People make mistakes and clearly taking a package that isn't yours is wrong and reckless driving endangering others is wrong. Calling them POS as if everyone hasn't made mistakes in their life seems excessive.
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I'm too old to candy-coat things. Rashee wasn't a POS while he was driving recklessly and endangering others. He became a POS the minute he decided to leave the scene of the accident. The porch pirate became a POS the minute she had the package in her hand. These 2 acts were not mistakes. A mistake would be spelling something wrong or accidentally banging into someone's car in a parking lot. These were both conscious choices made by POS's. They have both earned their titles.
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And judging them from your morale high ground labeling them POS accomplishes what?
This is a Rashee Rice thread so bringing his family into this and also labeling his mother a POS. What purpose?

We can not like what they both did I just don't see the purpose of piling on with calling him and his mother POS.
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Alrighty then. Let's get this thread back to Rashee and fantasy football. Below is the most current article I could find.

www.si.com

Andy Reid Discusses Rashee Rice Injury Uncertainty, How KC Proceeds Without No. 1 WR

Andy Reid shared some details regarding KC's plans as they 'wait and see' what's next for Rashee Rice.
www.si.com www.si.com
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Crash Davis said:
Doesn't look like we are going to get any meaningful update before most waivers run. I've got him on a short bench team with an already filled IR spot so this is frustrating for me.
Payne said:
This is really odd. In a case like this, 99.9% of the time we know by now what the deal is.
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It seems logical to me that the MRI did not confirm an ACL tear or they'd have just said that. Obviously there is damage but I don't see what they'd gain by waiting to announce it if they knew it was season ending, especially after declaring him out for week 5 already. I have him in a short bench league and i'm holding for now even if it means missing out on the flavor of the week on the WW.
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They said they’d update us Monday.

So… good luck with that.
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Well thankfully for me I was able to activate my IR'd player and drop his replacement. That freed up the IR spot for Rice and I was able to make my needed move. No one cares about my team though, my point relevant to this thread is that I believe Rice is worth holding onto for now if you can.
 

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twitter.com twitter.com

"Spotted Rashee Rice in the Chiefs locker room. Rice’s right leg was wrapped in a full leg sleeve, and he was walking about normally without crutches. He won’t be available to the media until he recovers."
 
smbkrypt24 said:
I mean come on. Can we just leave this alone. We don't need to pile on. People make mistakes and clearly taking a package that isn't yours is wrong and reckless driving endangering others is wrong. Calling them POS as if everyone hasn't made mistakes in their life seems excessive.
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sadly, I have never driven reckless and cause injury from a crash.. Sadly, I have never stolen packages from my neighbor or anything off my neighbor..

The people on here that continue want to ignore this guy and his family criminal activities is cringed worthy. I get it, he is good at Football, and probably means alot to your FF team, but that shouldn't excuse him and his mom are POS.
 
karl.Racki said:
smbkrypt24 said:
I mean come on. Can we just leave this alone. We don't need to pile on. People make mistakes and clearly taking a package that isn't yours is wrong and reckless driving endangering others is wrong. Calling them POS as if everyone hasn't made mistakes in their life seems excessive.
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sadly, I have never driven reckless and cause injury from a crash.. Sadly, I have never stolen packages from my neighbor or anything off my neighbor..

The people on here that continue want to ignore this guy and his family criminal activities is cringed worthy. I get it, he is good at Football, and probably means alot to your FF team, but that shouldn't excuse him and his mom are POS.
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Great so cry about it in the FFA. If we talked about every player who's a POS in the league in their threads, we'd never get any Fantasy relevant news.
 
smbkrypt24 said:
And judging them from your morale high ground labeling them POS accomplishes what?
This is a Rashee Rice thread so bringing his family into this and also labeling his mother a POS. What purpose?

We can not like what they both did I just don't see the purpose of piling on with calling him and his mother POS.
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Yeah, I'm with you here.

When my kids were little one of my boys came home from middle school talking about how someone at their school was trash. I looked at him with that look where they know I'm serious and tell him:

"you are never to call someone trash ever again. you have no idea what that kid has going on at home. you don't know where he comes from or how he was raised or what he's been through. you have no idea if he even had enough food at home to have breakfast that morning. people are not trash, or pieces of crap, or pieces of ****. you will never refer to another human being in those words. you got that?"

And that's how I feel about this. Yes - both Rice and his mother made mistakes. But I didn't grow up in their shoes.
 
Scoresman said:
Ok I just submitted my waiver claim dropping Rice for Amari Cooper.

That means the rest of you should hold onto him, because he will surely now miss only a week or two.
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You will be fine. All you had to do was look at Rice on the sideline when he was being carted off.

Season over.

And the lack of news on this is quite ridiculous at this point........but the NFL does not care about anyone's fantasy teams.
 
Todem said:
Scoresman said:
Ok I just submitted my waiver claim dropping Rice for Amari Cooper.

That means the rest of you should hold onto him, because he will surely now miss only a week or two.
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You will be fine. All you had to do was look at Rice on the sideline when he was being carted off.

Season over.

And the lack of news on this is quite ridiculous at this point........but the NFL does not care about anyone's fantasy teams.
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Maybe they’re counting on Rice to visit that magic German doctor.
 
Willie Neslon said:

x.com

twitter.com twitter.com

"Spotted Rashee Rice in the Chiefs locker room. Rice’s right leg was wrapped in a full leg sleeve, and he was walking about normally without crutches. He won’t be available to the media until he recovers."
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I believe Edgerrin James continued to play in the game he tore his ACL if memory serves.
 
ChiefD said:
smbkrypt24 said:
And judging them from your morale high ground labeling them POS accomplishes what?
This is a Rashee Rice thread so bringing his family into this and also labeling his mother a POS. What purpose?

We can not like what they both did I just don't see the purpose of piling on with calling him and his mother POS.
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Yeah, I'm with you here.

When my kids were little one of my boys came home from middle school talking about how someone at their school was trash. I looked at him with that look where they know I'm serious and tell him:

"you are never to call someone trash ever again. you have no idea what that kid has going on at home. you don't know where he comes from or how he was raised or what he's been through. you have no idea if he even had enough food at home to have breakfast that morning. people are not trash, or pieces of crap, or pieces of ****. you will never refer to another human being in those words. you got that?"

And that's how I feel about this. Yes - both Rice and his mother made mistakes. But I didn't grow up in their shoes.
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While I appreciate your view on this, those are not mistakes. Those are actions done on purpose w/out regard for anyone else - repeatedly (at least in his mother's case). You don't have to grow up in someone's shoes to be able to render an opinion on the matter. People are judged every day - just ask my wife. :lol:

You having a terrible upbringing doesn't excuse your actions.

My :2cents:
 
Todem said:
Scoresman said:
Ok I just submitted my waiver claim dropping Rice for Amari Cooper.

That means the rest of you should hold onto him, because he will surely now miss only a week or two.
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You will be fine. All you had to do was look at Rice on the sideline when he was being carted off.

Season over.

And the lack of news on this is quite ridiculous at this point........but the NFL does not care about anyone's fantasy teams.
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They not care about your fantasy team in particular, however they are certainly glad it exists. I do wonder how much less their revenue numbers would be without it.
 
Smack Tripper said:
JohnnyU said:
Willie Neslon said:

x.com

twitter.com twitter.com

"Spotted Rashee Rice in the Chiefs locker room. Rice’s right leg was wrapped in a full leg sleeve, and he was walking about normally without crutches. He won’t be available to the media until he recovers."
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I believe Edgerrin James continued to play in the game he tore his ACL if memory serves.
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Orlandis Gary ran for 100 with a torn acl on a Monday night
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I remember that.
 
King of the Jungle said:
Todem said:
Scoresman said:
Ok I just submitted my waiver claim dropping Rice for Amari Cooper.

That means the rest of you should hold onto him, because he will surely now miss only a week or two.
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You will be fine. All you had to do was look at Rice on the sideline when he was being carted off.

Season over.

And the lack of news on this is quite ridiculous at this point........but the NFL does not care about anyone's fantasy teams.
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They not care about your fantasy team in particular, however they are certainly glad it exists. I do wonder how much less their revenue numbers would be without it.
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“ They” meaning coaches don’t care.

The money machine of owners and Goodell…..that’s another conversation.
 
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