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WR Rome Odunze, CHI (2 Viewers)
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Banger
Footballguy
With the wr position as it is, I’d run to the WW to snag him. Caleb on the upswing and Odunze is super talented.
rockaction
Footballguy
I would grab if it was FCFS and not even think about it. If it's BB or FAAB (I think you play high stakes and it would surprise me very much if it wasn't) then I'd have to moderate my bid given what I have and don't have and might need, but he's worth a flyer.
zamboni
Footballguy
Somewhat under the radar, the arrow looks to be pointing up on Rome. He's still slightly behind Moore and Allen in targets, but wouldn't surprise me to see Rome's involvement expand and could be the signs of a rookie 2nd half breakout. Everything I read seems to show that he's always open, just a matter of scheming the ball more to him.
I just traded Odunze for a 2025 1st (somewhere between 1-4, he's currently 2nd to last in the league) and the same guys 2025 3rd
I'm loaded at WR from a dynasty standpoint already, with AJB, London, Rice, Olave, and Flowers. I also have Tillman, Pittman, and Iosivas. The potential to get a top RB like Jeanty IMO was worth it. Did I goof?
I'm loaded at WR from a dynasty standpoint already, with AJB, London, Rice, Olave, and Flowers. I also have Tillman, Pittman, and Iosivas. The potential to get a top RB like Jeanty IMO was worth it. Did I goof?
zamboni
Footballguy
Seems like you have good depth at WR, so unless you’re loaded at RB too, seems like a good deal.
It's close but in dynasty talented WRs will eventually overcome bad current situations. I would've ranked Odunze 2-4 on your roster long-term (probably 3 behind AJB and Rice assuming he returns OK), don't know how many you start on a weekly basis. You sold him at what should be his lowest point, but you got good value in return. If you are sure you'll get your target then you should feel good.
We start QRRWWTFFF in a 10 team league so depth really matters. Dont really care about the 3rd, but i dont mind stockpiling 3rd to try to use them to move up a few spots in the draft.
Being able to start 5 WR I would not have done that deal unless I knew I was getting a player I valued more than Odunze. It's bad now but within a year or so I think his dynasty value increases dramatically. I have a lot of Olave in dynasty and I am not feeling great about that with the concussion issues.
TartanLion
Footballguy
What is his value right now ? I’m contending this year in a Super Flex, I just sent a cheeky offer to someone that’s rebuilding just to see what he did ..
Godwin and Coker for Odunze
He’s replied with Godwin and Jamo for Odunze which has caught me off guard.
Obviously I’m a Lions fan and love Jamo but I recently acquired Amon-Ra in a trade so currently have
Amon-Ra/Deebo/Reed/Godwin/Jamo/Tillman/Coker/Lazard/Gabe and a few others.
Godwin is obviously of no use to me this season
Godwin and Coker for Odunze
He’s replied with Godwin and Jamo for Odunze which has caught me off guard.
Obviously I’m a Lions fan and love Jamo but I recently acquired Amon-Ra in a trade so currently have
Amon-Ra/Deebo/Reed/Godwin/Jamo/Tillman/Coker/Lazard/Gabe and a few others.
Godwin is obviously of no use to me this season
Birdie048
Footballguy
That is tough without something additional coming back like a Late 2nd/early 3rd
But Jamo & Odunze have similar ceilings with another talented WR1 with them.
As for 2024 competing, Chicago has a sweet schedule for Fantasy opportunity and I have been trying to get DJ Moore, but I would jump at Odunze.
For you, since you also have Amon-Ra, counter with Godwin/Jamo for Odunze + (maybe 2026 2nd?) a pick
TartanLion
Footballguy
Thanks for the reply. I feel like Odunze has more chance of becoming the alpha against Moore, than Jamo does against Amon-Ra which is really down to partial things with regards to all 4 of them. Will mull it further
Jamo is probably more valuable than Odunze this year, but Odunze has a much higher long-term upside than either Godwin or Jamo.
Given that relying on Jamo this year (or likely any year moving forward) is a dicey proposition, I'd easily accept this, unless losing some depth is going to hurt you next year.
I would have smash accepted
finfansteve
Footballguy
This
-OZ-
Footballguy
Your initial offer is… well a way to start I guess.
Godwin plus Jameson seems a little high for Odunze unless roster space is valuable. I’d want another viable piece with Odunze, a late 2 or useful IDP would get it done imo.
Heck, I might have taken it as is but I don’t think it’s quite smash-accept level.
I like Jameson a lot but really don’t agree here.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Well I’m mulling it. I’ll be contending for the next 2 seasons most likely. I have Allen and Hurts at QB. A decent RB group led by Williams/Mixon/Dobbins but also with Corum incase he supplants Williams. My hesitation is whether Jamo exceeds Odunze rest of season as my last flex player which would damage competing this year and also next year Id have Godwin who was WR1 when he went down. His future is not secured though and if the Bears turn the ship Odunze is a top top WR going forward.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Can you elaborate @-OZ- ?
Point was both have a Limited target / ceilings
Qualifier - currently both have a WR1 ahead of them in pecking order (Amon-RA vs DJ Moore)
But I can image Odunze supplanting DJ Moore in 2025 as WR1
Depending on how the OC / Schemes evolve (more dink & dump = DJM)
-OZ-
Footballguy
Odunze is a better all around receiver, he’s likely (imo) to surpass Moore, Caleb SHOULD develop into a better QB than Goff and the connection will probably develop nicely. I don’t see Odunze as having the same ceiling as Jameson, Rome can be a true alpha, FF WR1 type.
Currently Rome and Caleb are limited by their coaching. Goff and co have arguably the best OC in the business. But both are likely to change.
If you just meant this year, ok.
TartanLion
Footballguy
He pulled the offer after some ‘googling’ so it’s all moot now !
It would’ve caught me off-guard as well in a good way and once I came to my senses and realized it was a legitimate offer I couldn’t have accepted fast enough.
zamboni
Footballguy
For the Odunze truthers, just listened to a recent pod with Chris Harris and Matt Harmon in which they both picked Rome as their #1 pick among "level jumping" players for 2025. Not that they're all knowing, but they're pretty astute guys and Harmon, in particular, has among best WR insights in the fantasy community. Worth a listen.
https://www.harrisfootball.com/episode-january-23-2025 (also on Apple, Spotify, etc.)
https://www.harrisfootball.com/episode-january-23-2025 (also on Apple, Spotify, etc.)
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Waldman expressed similar sentiments on a recent podcast and he (as well as his guest co-host Brandon Angelo) tagged Rome as one of three rookies they most expect to make the "sophomore jump" next season (Ricky Pearsall and Malik Washington were the other two IIRC).
While I won't blame anyone for not watching the Bears games this season as they were very rarely entertaining; anyone who did would see Rome was not the problem there and, especially down the stretch, looked good running routes and making separation. Probably the only thing I'd say was disappointing with him was some occasional concentration drops. Considering his hands were one of the traits pretty much universally noted by scouts as a positive for him, and the flukiness of tracking drops with WRs year over year, it's a very minor thing to me. I think, on the whole, he looked miles better than KA (who I think is washed), and just as good if not better than DJM over the course of the whole year.
The edition of Ben Johnson only increases my optimism on him, as IMO one of the biggest issues with all the Bears receivers this season was the way they were deployed. I highly doubt he will have DJM playing the X and stick Rome in the slot even a fraction as much as the chuckleheads running the offense in 24 did.
Big Nate
Footballguy
My main 2 dynasty leagues the owners are very high on him - very optimistic, especially with Ben Johnson going there. I'd love to trade for Rome but it won't be cheap unfortunately.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I'd consider putting out feelers for Malik Washinton if you liked him at all pre-draft. Going to the Dolphins was the main ding against him IMO, and if Tyreek continues being Tyreek, Washington could find himself as the number 2 on that team sooner than later. And at a much cheaper price than getting Odunze (hovering around WR75 most places). I personally think he's only an opportunity away from being a fantasy contributor.
PFF feature on him from last year
Big Nate
Footballguy
Already own him
especially being a Fins fan. drafted him during rookie drafts.Honestly I do like him but if he produces early I have no problems moving him too. I'd sell him on hype and re-roll him into a higher future draft pick.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
On the whole, Rome's route tree was pretty good and absolutely got better as the season progressed. He had the occasional mental lapse on choice routes (particularly at inopportune times) throughout the year, but I expect him to clean that up having more reps with Caleb. I full expect Allen to move on in 2025, so the Bears will need to sign or draft a steady slot receiver leaving DJM as 1a and RO as 1b.
metoo
Footballguy
This. He won’t be easy to get in leagues that are worthwhile to me.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Nope. He definitely won’t go cheap. I have him in both my dynasty leagues, traded for him during the year.
Garrett Wilson for Rome and Bucky before Bucky blew up, and in SF, two late 2025 1sts and a 3rd for Rome and Willie Anderson. Might have overpaid in the latter deal but I thought it was worth it.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Metoo surprised, Odunze by a mile for me.
finfansteve
Footballguy
Why do you think that? Is Odunze that much better than Tet or is pick 3 that much better than pick 4?
zamboni
Footballguy
That’s a bit offensive.
metoo
Footballguy
Sorry guys. Rookie 3rd round and 4th round picks.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
That is how I interpreted it, great grab to get Odunze imo.
-OZ-
Footballguy
yep. McMillan might be good, but he’s unlikely to be in as good a situation as Rome next year. Plus I don’t think his talent is quite on par with Rome.
