Ketamine Dreams
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Lol. This really cracked me up for some reason.A mild calf injury, or a mild excuse.. what will the thread decide?What's this injury? Serious?
Lol. This really cracked me up for some reason.A mild calf injury, or a mild excuse.. what will the thread decide?What's this injury? Serious?
You too! Ironic!Great contribution!His calf muscle is evidently waiting to erupt
He already is a disappointment, and there is no reason to see things change from what we saw weeks 1-3.I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.
The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too).I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.
The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too).I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.
Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.
So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too).I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.
Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.![]()
The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
Um, of course it has been true so far.So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too).I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.
Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.![]()
The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
In week 1 that was true, but it's been 50-50 the last two weeks. Still too small a sample to say definitively one way or the other.Um, of course it has been true so far.So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too). Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
97 rush 78 pass.Um, of course it has been true so far.So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too).I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.
Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.![]()
The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
I think in today's NFL 50-50 would be considered extremely run heavy.In week 1 that was true, but it's been 50-50 the last two weeks. Still too small a sample to say definitively one way or the other.Um, of course it has been true so far.So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too). Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
We're discussing the 3 week sample size, and it's been the most run heavy offense in the NFL over those 3 weeks. How is this even debatable?In week 1 that was true, but it's been 50-50 the last two weeks. Still too small a sample to say definitively one way or the other.Um, of course it has been true so far.So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too). Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
He's played 19 career games, lets wait a bit??This is just a cursed thread from the start. He's always banged up. In hindsight yeah OBJ or Evans and not trading up would have been great.
And McCoy is already on the shelf, and Taylor, in his first three NFL starts, is proving that he could be more than just a game manager type QB, which wasn't apparent two weeks ago.We're discussing the 3 week sample size, and it's been the most run heavy offense in the NFL over those 3 weeks. How is this even debatable?In week 1 that was true, but it's been 50-50 the last two weeks. Still too small a sample to say definitively one way or the other.Um, of course it has been true so far.So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too). Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
Do you see the quotes that you are responding to? A poster said that so far the offense hasn't been run heavy, when in reality, it's been the most run heavy offense in the NFL. Now, if you're trying to argue that it will change going forward, that's a different conversation.And McCoy is already on the shelf, and Taylor, in his first three NFL starts, is proving that he could be more than just a game manager type QB, which wasn't apparent two weeks ago.I'm not saying they're going to be the Patriots because they clearly won't be, but there's context beneath the numbers that shows upside in this passing offense. In the first half vs Miami this week as they built up a 27-0 lead, their passing ratio was closer to 58%, which is more middle of the pack in the league. Clearly they went run heavy in the second half with a big lead, but Rex appears to be letting Taylor off the leash a little more each week.We're discussing the 3 week sample size, and it's been the most run heavy offense in the NFL over those 3 weeks. How is this even debatable?In week 1 that was true, but it's been 50-50 the last two weeks. Still too small a sample to say definitively one way or the other.Um, of course it has been true so far.So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too). Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
As Taylor gets more reps, we're seeing that this is clearly not an inept or one-dimensional offense, and the passing pie should grow.
I think the point is that Buffalo's offense has been much more explosive than expected. They're a top ranked scoring offense, including passing TDs. Tyrod Taylor isn't going to hold back Watkins' value.Do you see the quotes that you are responding to? A poster said that so far the offense hasn't been run heavy, when in reality, it's been the most run heavy offense in the NFL. Now, if you're trying to argue that it will change going forward, that's a different conversation.And McCoy is already on the shelf, and Taylor, in his first three NFL starts, is proving that he could be more than just a game manager type QB, which wasn't apparent two weeks ago.I'm not saying they're going to be the Patriots because they clearly won't be, but there's context beneath the numbers that shows upside in this passing offense. In the first half vs Miami this week as they built up a 27-0 lead, their passing ratio was closer to 58%, which is more middle of the pack in the league. Clearly they went run heavy in the second half with a big lead, but Rex appears to be letting Taylor off the leash a little more each week.We're discussing the 3 week sample size, and it's been the most run heavy offense in the NFL over those 3 weeks. How is this even debatable?In week 1 that was true, but it's been 50-50 the last two weeks. Still too small a sample to say definitively one way or the other.Um, of course it has been true so far.So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too). Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
As Taylor gets more reps, we're seeing that this is clearly not an inept or one-dimensional offense, and the passing pie should grow.
How early on sunday did he leave the game? All I read is first half. Was this 10 minutes into the game? 25 minutes? Kind of makes a difference. If he played a full game and his statline was 5/90 instead of 1/39 people might not be so down on him - injury notwithstanding.He already is a disappointment, and there is no reason to see things change from what we saw weeks 1-3.I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.
Run first team? Check.Offense that doesn't feature him? Check.Kenny Powers said:How early on sunday did he leave the game? All I read is first half. Was this 10 minutes into the game? 25 minutes? Kind of makes a difference. If he played a full game and his statline was 5/90 instead of 1/39 people might not be so down on him - injury notwithstanding.Alex P Keaton said:He already is a disappointment, and there is no reason to see things change from what we saw weeks 1-3.Ketamine Dreams said:I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.
Apparently can't beat top corners/double teams? Check.Run first team? Check.Offense that doesn't feature him? Check.Kenny Powers said:How early on sunday did he leave the game? All I read is first half. Was this 10 minutes into the game? 25 minutes? Kind of makes a difference. If he played a full game and his statline was 5/90 instead of 1/39 people might not be so down on him - injury notwithstanding.Alex P Keaton said:He already is a disappointment, and there is no reason to see things change from what we saw weeks 1-3.Ketamine Dreams said:I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.
Good defense that keeps his team from throwing a lot in garbage time? Check.
Constantly injured or nicked up? Check.
Factoring in Taylor's 17 rushes (scrambles), the pass calls are about 50/50... which is pretty significant considering they had big, early leads in 2 of their first 3 games.97 rush 78 pass.Um, of course it has been true so far.So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too).Ketamine Dreams said:I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.
Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.![]()
The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
50/50 would still make them a bottom 5 passing team... even if you chose to count those running plays as passing plays.Factoring in Taylor's 17 rushes (scrambles), the pass calls are about 50/50... which is pretty significant considering they had big, early leads in 2 of their first 3 games.97 rush 78 pass.Um, of course it has been true so far.So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too).Ketamine Dreams said:I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.
Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.![]()
The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
I suppose if 50-50 is considered run-heavy, than yeah they are run-heavy. But the point is that they aren't so run-heavy that Watkins can't produce. He had a solid game 2, had a long catch in game 3 and got hurt. I understand the mild calf injury is annoying for his owners, as are 2 poor games out of 3, but you have to trust the talent. He will be fine.We're discussing the 3 week sample size, and it's been the most run heavy offense in the NFL over those 3 weeks. How is this even debatable?In week 1 that was true, but it's been 50-50 the last two weeks. Still too small a sample to say definitively one way or the other.Um, of course it has been true so far.So far this hasn't been true.The offense isn't as run heavy or conservative as advertised. And the double teams may diminish if the contributions from Harvin and Clay continue (Woods is also a decent threat too). Wait until Watkins gets healthy and then decide for yourself. I'm confident the points will be there.Ketamine Dreams said:I can't help feeling that Sammy will be a disappointment this year. Double-teamed. Run-heavy team. Dinged up. Etc. The excuses will keep piling up. But then you keep thinking he's the supposed #1 WR on his team with a QB that is looking good and the hope won't die. Ugh.The offense is incredibly run heavy. Have to see about the injury, but I can't imagine starting him with any confidence until he has a fairly big game AND stays healthy, which could take a while.
He wasn't overthrown, he made a nice catch that was a foot or two out of bounds. BUF was trying to get him the ball early before he was injured.I think he comes around eventually. Tyrod is much better than I though he'd be. Which means the offensive aggregate output is going to be higher. A rising tide lifts all ships.
So what do we have with Sammy so far.
Week 1: Obviously he got blanked against the Colts. I don't expect him to get totally shut out often so I don't give this much weight.
Week 2: 6 for 60 on 8 targets. That's pretty good production.
Week 3: Sounds like he did a lot in the first quarter. Stats show 1 catch for 39 yards. Apparently he was overthrown while open in the Endzone as well.
I think he's a solid hold at this point. Tyrod is making this team better than I'd thought.
Upcoming opponents include Giants, Titans, Bengals, Jags. Not exactly a murderers row. Hope he can get healthy.
I only saw he stat sheet... He had two targets, what am I missing here?He wasn't overthrown, he made a nice catch that was a foot or two out of bounds. BUF was trying to get him the ball early before he was injured.I think he comes around eventually. Tyrod is much better than I though he'd be. Which means the offensive aggregate output is going to be higher. A rising tide lifts all ships.
So what do we have with Sammy so far.
Week 1: Obviously he got blanked against the Colts. I don't expect him to get totally shut out often so I don't give this much weight.
Week 2: 6 for 60 on 8 targets. That's pretty good production.
Week 3: Sounds like he did a lot in the first quarter. Stats show 1 catch for 39 yards. Apparently he was overthrown while open in the Endzone as well.
I think he's a solid hold at this point. Tyrod is making this team better than I'd thought.
Upcoming opponents include Giants, Titans, Bengals, Jags. Not exactly a murderers row. Hope he can get healthy.
Sammy Watkins - WR - Bills
Bills coach Rex Ryan conceded Wednesday that Sammy Watkins (calf) is almost certainly out for Week 4.
Watkins has a calf strain, the same injury that has plagued Victor Cruz, Alshon Jeffery, Reggie Bush, and Marshawn Lynch. They're tricky injuries that can linger and are highly susceptible to setbacks. "Probably not," were Rex's words when asked about Watkins' Week 4 status against the Giants. Look for Percy Harvin, Robert Woods, and Chris Hogan to form the Bills' three-wide set.
Source: Mike Rodak on Twitter
Sep 30 - 8:16 PM
He played less than 1 quarter last week.I only saw he stat sheet... He had two targets, what am I missing here?He wasn't overthrown, he made a nice catch that was a foot or two out of bounds. BUF was trying to get him the ball early before he was injured.I think he comes around eventually. Tyrod is much better than I though he'd be. Which means the offensive aggregate output is going to be higher. A rising tide lifts all ships.
So what do we have with Sammy so far.
Week 1: Obviously he got blanked against the Colts. I don't expect him to get totally shut out often so I don't give this much weight.
Week 2: 6 for 60 on 8 targets. That's pretty good production.
Week 3: Sounds like he did a lot in the first quarter. Stats show 1 catch for 39 yards. Apparently he was overthrown while open in the Endzone as well.
I think he's a solid hold at this point. Tyrod is making this team better than I'd thought.
Upcoming opponents include Giants, Titans, Bengals, Jags. Not exactly a murderers row. Hope he can get healthy.
So he would've wound up with 8ish targets?He played less than 1 quarter last week.I only saw he stat sheet... He had two targets, what am I missing here?He wasn't overthrown, he made a nice catch that was a foot or two out of bounds. BUF was trying to get him the ball early before he was injured.I think he comes around eventually. Tyrod is much better than I though he'd be. Which means the offensive aggregate output is going to be higher. A rising tide lifts all ships.
So what do we have with Sammy so far.
Week 1: Obviously he got blanked against the Colts. I don't expect him to get totally shut out often so I don't give this much weight.
Week 2: 6 for 60 on 8 targets. That's pretty good production.
Week 3: Sounds like he did a lot in the first quarter. Stats show 1 catch for 39 yards. Apparently he was overthrown while open in the Endzone as well.
I think he's a solid hold at this point. Tyrod is making this team better than I'd thought.
Upcoming opponents include Giants, Titans, Bengals, Jags. Not exactly a murderers row. Hope he can get healthy.
If 1 data point makes a trend? Sure.So he would've wound up with 8ish targets?He played less than 1 quarter last week.I only saw he stat sheet... He had two targets, what am I missing here?He wasn't overthrown, he made a nice catch that was a foot or two out of bounds. BUF was trying to get him the ball early before he was injured.I think he comes around eventually. Tyrod is much better than I though he'd be. Which means the offensive aggregate output is going to be higher. A rising tide lifts all ships.
So what do we have with Sammy so far.
Week 1: Obviously he got blanked against the Colts. I don't expect him to get totally shut out often so I don't give this much weight.
Week 2: 6 for 60 on 8 targets. That's pretty good production.
Week 3: Sounds like he did a lot in the first quarter. Stats show 1 catch for 39 yards. Apparently he was overthrown while open in the Endzone as well.
I think he's a solid hold at this point. Tyrod is making this team better than I'd thought.
Upcoming opponents include Giants, Titans, Bengals, Jags. Not exactly a murderers row. Hope he can get healthy.
Why not 15?So he would've wound up with 8ish targets?He played less than 1 quarter last week.I only saw he stat sheet... He had two targets, what am I missing here?He wasn't overthrown, he made a nice catch that was a foot or two out of bounds. BUF was trying to get him the ball early before he was injured.I think he comes around eventually. Tyrod is much better than I though he'd be. Which means the offensive aggregate output is going to be higher. A rising tide lifts all ships.
So what do we have with Sammy so far.
Week 1: Obviously he got blanked against the Colts. I don't expect him to get totally shut out often so I don't give this much weight.
Week 2: 6 for 60 on 8 targets. That's pretty good production.
Week 3: Sounds like he did a lot in the first quarter. Stats show 1 catch for 39 yards. Apparently he was overthrown while open in the Endzone as well.
I think he's a solid hold at this point. Tyrod is making this team better than I'd thought.
Upcoming opponents include Giants, Titans, Bengals, Jags. Not exactly a murderers row. Hope he can get healthy.
Why go out on a limb like this on such an obviously talented player? You're going to look dumb in the future, what's the point? This isn't Christine Michael here, or David Wilson. Watkins has shown his talent in the NFL already. If you're a frustrated owner, fine, but saying "he sucks" is idiotic.Idk, prob bc he sucks![]()
Good analysisI have to say, Sammy has been a bit underwhelming through 19 games. He's topped 100 yards only 4 times. He's score only 7 touchdowns. Maybe he's just not as good as advertised.