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WR Sammy Watkins, BAL (2 Viewers)

2014 NFL Draft: Amazing array of pro-ready talent at wide receiver

By Frank Cooney | NFLDraftScout.com

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1/4. *Sammy Watkins, Clemson, 6-1, 211, 4.43, 1

Watkins keeps his elite speed under total control to deceive defenders with a startling ability to shift gears and direction faster than a NASCAR driver faced with an 11-car pileup. That makes him dangerous after the catch -- which he accomplishes with the precision hands of a surgeon -- and as a returner. As a true freshman in 2011, he caught 82 passes for 1,219 yards and 12 scores and added more than 1,000 yards rushing and returning. After a 2012 impacted by a two-game suspension (marijuana possession), Watkins exploded again in 2013, catching 101 passes for 1,464 yards and 12 touchdowns and closed out his prolific Clemson career with a dominating 16-catch performance in the Tigers' dramatic victory over Ohio State in the Orange Bowl.

Frankly: His dazzling display of foot and handwork makes Watkins a big play waiting to happen. Still, he can improve overall game by working on route running that wasn't a priority in his gimmicky college offense and by increasing strength to fend off NFL jams.
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Rotoworld:

In a poll of 17 NFL personnel men, Clemson WR Sammy Watkins came out as the top vote-getter as this draft class' No. 1 wide receiver.
Watkins got 15-of-17 first-place votes and two second-place votes. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel formulates a "points" system based on votes, and Watkins received 83 points. Texas A&M's Mike Evans finished second with 59 points, LSU's Odell Beckham came in a close third at 55, and Oregon State's Brandin Cooks was a distant fourth at 25 points. Marqise Lee (22) ranked fifth.

Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
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Faust said:
Rotoworld:

In a poll of 17 NFL personnel men, Clemson WR Sammy Watkins came out as the top vote-getter as this draft class' No. 1 wide receiver.
Watkins got 15-of-17 first-place votes and two second-place votes. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel formulates a "points" system based on votes, and Watkins received 83 points. Texas A&M's Mike Evans finished second with 59 points, LSU's Odell Beckham came in a close third at 55, and Oregon State's Brandin Cooks was a distant fourth at 25 points. Marqise Lee (22) ranked fifth.

Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
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From the article - the rest of the WR's he mentions:

The Journal Sentinel polled 17 personnel men with national responsibilities to name their five top wide receivers. A first-place vote was worth five points, a second was worth four and so forth.

Sammy Watkins, with 15 firsts and two seconds, led with 83 points.

He was followed by Mike Evans, 59 points; Odell Beckham, 55 (two firsts); Brandin Cooks, 25; Marqise Lee, 22; Jordan Matthews, three; Kelvin Benjamin, Cody Latimer and Paul Richardson, two; and Davante Adams and Shaq Evans, one.
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In a poll of 17 NFL personnel men, Clemson WR Sammy Watkins came out as the top vote-getter as this draft class' No. 1 wide receiver.

Watkins got 15-of-17 first-place votes and two second-place votes. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel formulates a "points" system based on votes, and Watkins received 83 points. Texas A&M's Mike Evans finished second with 59 points, LSU's Odell Beckham came in a close third at 55, and Oregon State's Brandin Cooks was a distant fourth at 25 points. Marqise Lee (22) ranked fifth.
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Beckham, my boy deservedly creeping up to #2!

 
Soulfly3 said:
In a poll of 17 NFL personnel men, Clemson WR Sammy Watkins came out as the top vote-getter as this draft class' No. 1 wide receiver.

Watkins got 15-of-17 first-place votes and two second-place votes. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel formulates a "points" system based on votes, and Watkins received 83 points. Texas A&M's Mike Evans finished second with 59 points, LSU's Odell Beckham came in a close third at 55, and Oregon State's Brandin Cooks was a distant fourth at 25 points. Marqise Lee (22) ranked fifth.
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Beckham, my boy deservedly creeping up to #2!
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's the 2nd WR taken. I think it's deserved.

 
werdnoynek said:
Soulfly3 said:
In a poll of 17 NFL personnel men, Clemson WR Sammy Watkins came out as the top vote-getter as this draft class' No. 1 wide receiver.

Watkins got 15-of-17 first-place votes and two second-place votes. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel formulates a "points" system based on votes, and Watkins received 83 points. Texas A&M's Mike Evans finished second with 59 points, LSU's Odell Beckham came in a close third at 55, and Oregon State's Brandin Cooks was a distant fourth at 25 points. Marqise Lee (22) ranked fifth.
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Beckham, my boy deservedly creeping up to #2!
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's the 2nd WR taken. I think it's deserved.
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I have him as the no2 WR in my rankings. And as crazy as some think it is, I have him being taken ahead of Evans.

 
NFL teams see dual role for Sammy Watkins as WR and returnerBy Mike Huguenin

College Football 24/7 writer

As if Sammy Watkins' receiving skills weren't enough, his ability as a return man has only helped his value.

NFL Media insider Ian Rapoport reports several teams interested in Watkins also envision using him as a kick returner and view his skills in that area as a "huge element" of his game. Watkins is the top wide receiver prospect in this draft, and it seems unlikely he would slide any lower than fifth to the Raiders.

Watkins (6-foot-1, 211 pounds) was Clemson's primary kick returner as a true freshman in 2011, averaging 25.6 yards on 33 attempts. He also had one return touchdown, and it was a big factor in a wild 56-45 win over Maryland in which the Tigers rallied from 18 down. The return came midway through the fourth quarter and gave Clemson the lead for good.

But Watkins returned just 27 kickoffs in his final two seasons at Clemson and never showed the same type of explosiveness he did as a freshman; he averaged 20.4 yards on those 27 returns. Watkins also returned six punts in his Clemson career but managed just 23 yards on those returns.

Still, he has good speed and fluidity and exceptional quickness, and can stop on a dime and change directions -- all traits of a big-time return man.

Watkins isn't expected to be the first-overall pick to the Texans, but of the other teams that pick in the top five, Jacksonville -- which picks third - - looks to be the only one that doesn't need a new return man. Jordan Todman (27.3 yards per return) thrived in that role for the Jags last season, but Watkins still might be an upgrade. St. Louis (which picks second), Cleveland (fourth) and Oakland (fifth) could use a boost at kick returner.

Mike Huguenin can be reached at mike.huguenin@nfl.com. You also can follow him on Twitter @MikeHuguenin.
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Yes. He will struggle to be anything more than an average red zone target. Maybe he bucks the trend but I would bet against it. Still doesn't mean he won't be good but it makes it hard for his ceiling to be anything more than a low end WR1. If he goes to the Saints, Denver, NE I could change my stance. LOL if he goes to JAG, CLE, or OAK.........

He didn't even separate on the play you posted. His defender was picked. lol

 
DAG said:
Tibereas said:
So where are you Sammy fans hoping he ends up?
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Among the top teams (assuming nobody trades up for him) I'd be pretty happy with STL or JAX.
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Not sure what STL looks like with Sammy. How do they use Tavon and Givens? Still not sold on Bradford and I wonder if the ball is spread around or if they actually use Sammy as a true #1. Jax could be a good fit depending on the QB they draft. Two rooks growing together. What do (other) Gordon owners think about Sammy on the Browns?

 
slackjawedyokel said:
DAG said:
Tibereas said:
So where are you Sammy fans hoping he ends up?
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Among the top teams (assuming nobody trades up for him) I'd be pretty happy with STL or JAX.
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Not sure what STL looks like with Sammy. How do they use Tavon and Givens? Still not sold on Bradford and I wonder if the ball is spread around or if they actually use Sammy as a true #1. Jax could be a good fit depending on the QB they draft. Two rooks growing together. What do (other) Gordon owners think about Sammy on the Browns?
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I would downgrade him a little if he went to Jax, Cle, or the Raiders. I would be really excited to get him if SF or Det drafted him.

 
Milkman said:
slackjawedyokel said:
DAG said:
Tibereas said:
So where are you Sammy fans hoping he ends up?
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Among the top teams (assuming nobody trades up for him) I'd be pretty happy with STL or JAX.
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Not sure what STL looks like with Sammy. How do they use Tavon and Givens? Still not sold on Bradford and I wonder if the ball is spread around or if they actually use Sammy as a true #1. Jax could be a good fit depending on the QB they draft. Two rooks growing together. What do (other) Gordon owners think about Sammy on the Browns?
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I would downgrade him a little if he went to Jax, Cle, or the Raiders. I would be really excited to get him if SF or Det drafted him.
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How is that gonna happen? :unsure:


 
Well if they think they are one player away maybe they do. Their window is closing. Plus they have a lot of picks this year.........

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
Milkman said:
SF could trade up for him.
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That would be an enormous trade-up. 25+ spots probably. No way they do that.
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True, though they COULD trade up for him. I don't think there is a chance of it, but it is one of those possibilities. And it would be exciting.

You know, they have more picks than fingers on a non-yokel. With 11 picks and a bunch of 2-3 rounders, they have the firepower to do just that.

 
Their elite pass rusher is going crazy. Their pro bowl running back is old. Their elite DT is really old and lost a step "last" year. TE isn't getting any younger. Windows in general don't stay open forever unless you have a Manning level player at QB. They don't. Their window is closing.

 
Milkman said:
Their elite pass rusher is going crazy. Their pro bowl running back is old. Their elite DT is really old and lost a step "last" year. TE isn't getting any younger. Windows in general don't stay open forever unless you have a Manning level player at QB. They don't. Their window is closing.
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Not quite... it's changing. They have talent emerging while some of the old guard declines. Gore and the Cowboy are near the end, but let's not discount Tank and Lattimore. There are questions about the secondary, only because of the transition this offseason, but it is not a closing window just yet.

 
Milkman said:
Yes. He will struggle to be anything more than an average red zone target. Maybe he bucks the trend but I would bet against it. Still doesn't mean he won't be good but it makes it hard for his ceiling to be anything more than a low end WR1. If he goes to the Saints, Denver, NE I could change my stance. LOL if he goes to JAG, CLE, or OAK.........

He didn't even separate on the play you posted. His defender was picked. lol
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Very few WR in the NFL dominate the red zone, or more specifically from the 5 or less. While Watkins may fall in that large group who don't, it's not going to be a detriment to his success. He's good enough everywhere else to make up for it.
 
Milkman said:
Yes. He will struggle to be anything more than an average red zone target. Maybe he bucks the trend but I would bet against it. Still doesn't mean he won't be good but it makes it hard for his ceiling to be anything more than a low end WR1. If he goes to the Saints, Denver, NE I could change my stance. LOL if he goes to JAG, CLE, or OAK.........

He didn't even separate on the play you posted. His defender was picked. lol
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None of this post makes sense. To say Watkins will be nothing more than a low end WR1 because a lack of RZ targets is just flat out wrong. Look at Antonio Brown last season. He was in the top 5 of most PPR leagues, depending on scoring and wasn't anywhere near the top in RZ targets. Regardless, RZ targets are nice and I agree they can be somewhat size dependant, but guys like Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, Donald Driver, Wes Welker, and Anquan Bolden, who are among the top 15 in Red Zone targets since 2000, have shown that you don't need to be over 6`1" to be successful in the redzone. Speed is just as beneficial if not more in the RZ IMO. Grant wasn't picked on that play. He was lined up with Watkins at the start and stuck with him. Boyd threw it up and Sammy went up and got it. Get used to it. We're going to see more of those plays in about 4 months.

 
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You can take Wayne, Donald Driver, Wes Welker, and probably Bolden out of your examples. All of them enjoyed mega-elite QB play. Which if you go back and read my post I mention that if Watkins went to a team with an elite QB I could change my stance. So you have Chad Johnson and Steve Smith. One of those WR is actually taller than Watkins btw. That's what I mean though......it's unlikely.

lol @ not being picked. Also if you really believe Watkins is going to have an above the rim game in the NFL with his average size and below average vert.............Thumbs up. If he's going to win it will be separating with his acceleration and route running.

 
Milkman said:
You can take Wayne, Donald Driver, Wes Welker, and probably Bolden out of your examples. All of them enjoyed mega-elite QB play. Which if you go back and read my post I mention that if Watkins went to a team with an elite QB I could change my stance. So you have Chad Johnson and Steve Smith. One of those WR is actually taller than Watkins btw. That's what I mean though......it's unlikely.

lol @ not being picked. Also if you really believe Watkins is going to have an above the rim game in the NFL with his average size and below average vert.............Thumbs up. If he's going to win it will be separating with his acceleration and route running.
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LOL is right. Elite QB play changes everything!!! See Tajh Boyd.ETA: So does a half inch.

 
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Jesus dude are you drinking again. NFL does not = College football. Yes a half inch does make a difference. Weight makes more of a difference though. Which to Sammy's credit he's pretty heavy.

 
Milkman said:
Jesus dude are you drinking again. NFL does not = College football. Yes a half inch does make a difference. Weight makes more of a difference though. Which to Sammy's credit he's pretty heavy.
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Who said the NFL = College football? You want to write off successful, short, redzone WRs because the had "elite" QB's throwing them the ball... It's laughable. I don't need to be drunk to find it that way. Take a look at the teams with the best QB rating in the redzone last year...

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-rating-in-red-zone/2013/

That shows some pretty average QBs having success throwing the ball in the end zone does it not?

It's clear you don't like Watkins, but what you're saying is just not true... No matter how you try to spin it.

 
werdnoynek said:
Milkman said:
Jesus dude are you drinking again. NFL does not = College football. Yes a half inch does make a difference. Weight makes more of a difference though. Which to Sammy's credit he's pretty heavy.
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Who said the NFL = College football? You want to write off successful, short, redzone WRs because the had "elite" QB's throwing them the ball... It's laughable. I don't need to be drunk to find it that way. Take a look at the teams with the best QB rating in the redzone last year...

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-rating-in-red-zone/2013/

That shows some pretty average QBs having success throwing the ball in the end zone does it not?

It's clear you don't like Watkins, but what you're saying is just not true... No matter how you try to spin it.
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Well he is in my top tier. He has a chance of being the best WR in this class but I'm just not on this he's an elite wr who can run 100 mph and jump small buildings. He's being waaaaaay over hyped.

Good hands

Great acceleration

good routes

above average speed

Nice weight

Can't jump

Doesn't possess elite size

some character concerns

Good not elite prospect. 1st round WR. Not a top 5 level guy imo.

 
the waaaaaay over hype should be used to good advantage by trading back before the nfl draft while visions of sugar-plums dance in people's heads.

 
BuzzCagney said:
the waaaaaay over hype should be used to good advantage by trading back before the nfl draft while visions of sugar-plums dance in people's heads.
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I'm a fan of sugar plums and smart teams will add them to the pantry. Not sure how else to convey that thought... either way, I'm heading to the kitchen to get a bowl of sugar plums now.

 
Some are saying Watkins (and the rookie 1.01 pick) are being over-valued right now, especially in light of the fact that he could land in a poor situation.

But what if Detroit trades up for Watkins? That's just one dream scenario, but it's one case where his hype would sky-rocket to the point where we'd look back and realize he was actually pretty cheap in early May.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
Some are saying Watkins (and the rookie 1.01 pick) are being over-valued right now, especially in light of the fact that he could land in a poor situation.

But what if Detroit trades up for Watkins? That's just one dream scenario, but it's one case where his hype would sky-rocket to the point where we'd look back and realize he was actually pretty cheap in early May.
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watkins will be called baby megatron or megatron jr. yikes!

 
werdnoynek said:
Milkman said:
You can take Wayne, Donald Driver, Wes Welker, and probably Bolden out of your examples. All of them enjoyed mega-elite QB play. Which if you go back and read my post I mention that if Watkins went to a team with an elite QB I could change my stance. So you have Chad Johnson and Steve Smith. One of those WR is actually taller than Watkins btw. That's what I mean though......it's unlikely.

lol @ not being picked. Also if you really believe Watkins is going to have an above the rim game in the NFL with his average size and below average vert.............Thumbs up. If he's going to win it will be separating with his acceleration and route running.
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LOL is right. Elite QB play changes everything!!! See Tajh Boyd.ETA: So does a half inch.
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That's what she said. LOL

Just read that the Rams will pass on Watkins at 1.02.

 
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BuzzCagney said:
ConnSKINS26 said:
Some are saying Watkins (and the rookie 1.01 pick) are being over-valued right now, especially in light of the fact that he could land in a poor situation.

But what if Detroit trades up for Watkins? That's just one dream scenario, but it's one case where his hype would sky-rocket to the point where we'd look back and realize he was actually pretty cheap in early May.
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watkins will be called baby megatron or megatron jr. yikes!
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Starscream

 
Sounds like CLE really wants somebody ahead of them to draft Sammy so one of the truely elite players falls to them. Worth a shot imo.

 
I couldn't help it lol. I knew you would get a kick out of it when you read it.

 
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duaneok66 said:
I stopped reading after I read the words Jamie Duke . . .
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Ya Jamie Duke is one of my least favorite analysts, but at least I am not alone. I don't know if it helps or hurts my argument having him on my side. LOL

 
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