WR Stefon Diggs, NE (3 Viewers)

[SameSongNDance]

The Vikes’ bye is week 9. They’d be idiotic to play him against the sorry Browns instead of letting him have an extra 2 weeks to fully heal.

If he's legitimately healthy there's no reason to sit him. By Sunday he will have had 20 days to get healthy. Assuming the strain was relatively minor that should be enough time for him to get right.

 

[mnmplayer]

This sucks though. Now I have to wake up at 8:20 to see if he is active.

For me 6:20. Lol might miss it.

 

[Moonshine]

Does McCourty shadow him?

McCourty was a DNP in practice yesterday with an ankle injury, and I think there's a pretty decent chance he doesn't play this weekend.

Other defensive starters likely out for Sunday: Myles Garret (concussion, almost certainly going to be ruled out but it's still possible), Tevin Coley (again, still possible he suits up but I find it doubtful) and Jabrill Peppers. I think Peppers has the best chance of suiting up out of these 4.

Without Peppers and McCourty, Diggs and Theilen could feast this weekend, and without Garret and Coley to deliver pressure up front, Keenum should have a pretty easy time finding them.

It's a morning game in London, and these have been known to make for really bad football, both fantasy and reality, but Cleveland is down a few key starters. This could be a pretty filthy weekend for Diggs/Thielen/McKinnon/Murray, assuming those mentioned above in fact end up inactive.

 

[Biabreakable]

The match ups are almost too much in the Vikings favor, which makes me nervous.

If Riley Reiff can't play that would be a downgrade for the Vikings that would somewhat negate any positive from Garrett playing. Or even be a problem if Reiff doesn't play and Garrett does.

 

[Moonshine]

The match ups are almost too much in the Vikings favor, which makes me nervous.

If Riley Reiff can't play that would be a downgrade for the Vikings that would somewhat negate any positive from Garrett playing. Or even be a problem if Reiff doesn't play and Garrett does.

Starting left tackle Riley Reiff and wide receiver Stefon Diggs were both full participants in the Vikings’ first practice in London on Thursday

http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2017/10/riley-reiff-stefon-diggs-full-participants-thursdays-practice/

Worry no more, my friend.

 

[Biabreakable]

In Zimmers press conference he described the Browns coverage as a soft cover two with the corners eyes on the QB.

So if that is the case, likely game planning for more zone beaters against the Browns. 

 

[spider321]

If he's legitimately healthy there's no reason to sit him. By Sunday he will have had 20 days to get healthy. Assuming the strain was relatively minor that should be enough time for him to get right.

Do you ever know with absolute certainty that a groin injury is fully healed?  I think the answer is “no”, so why not give him 2 more weeks just to be “sure” when your only game is against the lowly Brown?

 

[Interseptopus]

In Zimmers press conference he described the Browns coverage as a soft cover two with the corners eyes on the QB.

So if that is the case, likely game planning for more zone beaters against the Browns. 

Does this favor Diggs? 

My biggest concern is MIN goes up by 3 scores early (let's pretend 2 rushing and 1 passing to someone other than Diggs), so they go into a clock killing offense, and Diggs isn't much more of a scoring potential. 

I'd love a 10/100 stat line if that was the case, but I just worry they get up by a lot and go into run run run, punt or they just bench Diggs in garbage time, and he finishes with 3/45. Seriously considering playing JuJu over him; floor is about the same but the match up favors JuJu getting more opportunities 

 

[Amused to Death]

Do you ever know with absolute certainty that a groin injury is fully healed?  I think the answer is “no”, so why not give him 2 more weeks just to be “sure” when your only game is against the lowly Brown?

I don't think NFL coaches ever think "its just the Browns, so I can rest him another week".  That's how better teams lose to lesser teams.  If players are healthy, they play - whether its against the best or the worst team in the league.

 

[spider321]

I don't think NFL coaches ever think "its just the Browns, so I can rest him another week".  That's how better teams lose to lesser teams.  If players are healthy, they play - whether its against the best or the worst team in the league.

I agree to an extent, but their bye is the following week, and it’s the Browns.  Lol

 

[Tool]

Doesn’t appear to be on injury report...

 

[Interseptopus]

no one worried about game script?

If he plays, are you starting without question? 

 

[mr roboto]

I agree to an extent, but their bye is the following week, and it’s the Browns.  Lol

Browns have lost 4 of their games by 3 points or less. They’re a bad football team no doubt but no one can take any team lightly in the nfl. 

 

[Gandalf]

no one worried about game script?

If he plays, are you starting without question? 

Yes but have limited options with the bye week

 

[Gandalf]

Doesn’t appear to be on injury report...

Listening to the audible Diggs said he could have played last week. With another week of rest I think he will be good to go. The Vikings likely didn’t want to have a repeat of last year

 

[Weebs210]

no one worried about game script?

If he plays, are you starting without question? 

I'm starting him but more due to I have no one I want to drop. If he plays he is healthy enough to compete. They won't use him as a decoy.

 

[C-Bound]

no one worried about game script?

If he plays, are you starting without question? 

Yes as I have no other options and its all for fun this week anyway since I played vs. the Ravens D last night

 

[travdogg]

no one worried about game script?

If he plays, are you starting without question? 

Unless I had another solid option, I'd start Diggs no problem. I'm starting him over Stills(so far so good) and Sanu. 

 

[Biabreakable]

Vikings Reiff, Diggs, Easton, Floyd & Alexander Questionable vs. Browns

 

[Moonshine]

McCourty for the Browns officially doubtful for Sunday's game. Jabrill Peppers Questionable.

Coley also questionable, and Garrett already ruled out. Shaping up to be a great offensive day for the Vikings.

 

[SameSongNDance]

He's turned in two consecutive full practices. If he doesn't play Sunday he would technically be a healthy scratch. He'll play.

 

[Tool]

Looks like he’s back on as questionable

 

[Biabreakable]

He's turned in two consecutive full practices. If he doesn't play Sunday he would technically be a healthy scratch. He'll play.

While I tend to agree with you that he will play he would technically not be a healthy scratch because he is listed as questionable on the injury report.

 

[Boston]

Nothing to base this on but I gotta believe the fact he made the trip bodes very well for him playing...if he was still banged up it makes no sense to make this trip instead of staying home and getting regular treatment...that being said it is the type of injury where he could feel something in warm-ups and not play...especially since he has a bye-week next week...if you are starting him (and I hope to) you better have a very definite plan B and make sure you are paying attention because it is an early start so there may be a small window to figure this out...I would really like to see him play because while I love him and think he has top 10-12 talent I do have concerns about his reliability/durability...would feel real good if he could be productive in this situation...

 

[Biabreakable]

The logic behind players travelling with the team makes sense, but Sam Bradford traveled with the team as well and he is listed as out.

So players traveling with the team does not really make any difference as far as if the team plans for those players status on game day.

I do think DIggs is going to play, I just think we need to be accurate with the facts.

 

[Biabreakable]

Vikings practice report

Diggs was a full participant in practice. Listed as questionable on the injury report.

 

[Moonshine]

Got an offer on the table from the Hopkins owner who is a little spooked by the McNair comments and wants in on my Diggs.

Diggs might be my favorite player in the league (which is why basically 90% of my posts are in this thread), but I feel like an absolute lunatic turning it down.

For the record, I think Diggs would be tagged as "Probable" if that designation still existed. Maybe it's just my Diggs fandom showing, but I'd be shocked, after two full practices, if he sat this weekend.

 

[Biabreakable]

I am unaware of the McNair comments, what is that about? Comparing Watson to McNair?

Anyhow I agree with you Moonshine that Diggs would be listed as probable if they hadn't gotten rid of that designation and I expect Diggs to play.

I am just pushing back against comments saying that Diggs isn't listed as injured or that he would technically be a healthy scratch, as technically means "according to the facts or exact meaning of something; strictly."

Hopkins is WR 4 right now and if this offer is straight up I would likely take it. Although I love Diggs as well. 

eta - Oh Bob McNair the owner of the Texans making a totally inappropriate comment in regards to the players constitutional right to express themselves and Hopkins skipping practice in response to that. I see. McNair is a terrible human being showing his true colors there.

 

[Moonshine]

I am unaware of the McNair comments, what is that about? Comparing Watson to McNair?

Anyhow I agree with you Moonshine that Diggs would be listed as probable if they hadn't gotten rid of that designation and I expect Diggs to play.

I am just pushing back against comments saying that Diggs isn't listed as injured or that he would technically be a healthy scratch, as technically means "according to the facts or exact meaning of something; strictly."

Hopkins is WR 4 right now and if this offer is straight up I would likely take it. Although I love Diggs as well. 

By McNair, I was referring to the Texans owner Bob McNair who, in response to the national anthem stuff, equated the players in the NFL, and by association his own employees, to inmates (I think the full quote was something along the lines of "you can't let the inmates run the prison")

In this political atmosphere, that's a pretty dicey thing to say, so Hopkins was a no show at practice today. There's some speculation that Hopkins may hold out longer (all pretty unfounded, in my opinion) and skip the game this weekend, but its enough to spook the Hopkins owner in my league.

Edit: It may be worth putting out feelers to the Hopkins owner in your league, just to see if you can get him at a discounted rate.

 

[Biabreakable]

Yeah I see. Edited my post above in regards to that.

I don't disagree with Hopkins being upset by that statement. The players are not the team owners property, they are human beings. Employment at will and all that.

 

[Interseptopus]

confused why fgb calls this a favorable matchup but Cleveland has been good against the pass (16th). I feel like this is the normal fbg  laziness in their daily emails showing at the normal time of the season. 

I'm playing him regardless. likely sitting Hilton for Juju instead of Diggs 

 

[bb7278]

confused why fgb calls this a favorable matchup but Cleveland has been good against the pass (16th). I feel like this is the normal fbg  laziness in their daily emails showing at the normal time of the season. 

I'm playing him regardless. likely sitting Hilton for Juju instead of Diggs 

It appears in your rush to throw FBG under the bus you missed the injury report, Garrett, Oguanjobi  and McCourty are out. bunch of other guys like Peppers Questionable have a nice day

 

[J R]

confused why fgb calls this a favorable matchup but Cleveland has been good against the pass (16th). I feel like this is the normal fbg  laziness in their daily emails showing at the normal time of the season. 

I'm playing him regardless. likely sitting Hilton for Juju instead of Diggs 

Cle is 26th vs the pass in dvoa and 2nd vs the run, and it is speculated that Mccourty won't play.

Their dvoa splits by receiver are interesting. 32nd vs. the #1 WR and 1st versus the #32 WR.

 

[Interseptopus]

It appears in your rush to throw FBG under the bus you missed the injury report, Garrett, Oguanjobi  and McCourty are out. bunch of other guys like Peppers Questionable have a nice day

would be nice if they mentioned that. their email updates are in general lacking very important information. haven't mentioned once about Bryant being benched except under that juju will play. 

regardless thanks for the update. the forums are always a great source of info

 

[Moonshine]

confused why fgb calls this a favorable matchup but Cleveland has been good against the pass (16th). I feel like this is the normal fbg  laziness in their daily emails showing at the normal time of the season. 

I'm playing him regardless. likely sitting Hilton for Juju instead of Diggs 

As BB said, it'll be a totally different defense with no McCourty and Garrett, and if Peppers and Coley sit too, the defense won't even be a shell of its former self. He's not a lock, but Diggs has a really good chance of being a stellar play this weekend.

 

[bb7278]

would be nice if they mentioned that. their email updates are in general lacking very important information. haven't mentioned once about Bryant being benched except under that juju will play. 

regardless thanks for the update. the forums are always a great source of info

No worries, heres a good synopsis, I see McCourty and Oguanjobi as doubtful after not practing all week, 90% not playing

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/10/27/16549022/vikings-vs-browns-final-injury-report-for-week-8-london-matchup

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Due to injuries and byes I'm hosed this wk at QB. I picked up McCown but don't love his matchup or the weather forecast in Jersey.

If Diggs is active I think I'm picking up and playing Keenum

 

[Biabreakable]

Just to add to what others have already pointed out about injuries in the Browns secondary, I was listening to Norse Code interview with a Cleveland beat writer who talked about the Browns defense being pretty strong against the inside run but not very good against the pass, and especially not with McCourtey out and the other injuries they have. He also said they have been playing Peppers as a free safety way away from the line of scrimmage, which likely isn't the best way to use him.

Greg Williams has always liked to have his defense be aggressive with an extra safety in the box, whiich requires the free safety to play single high coverage in the middle.

This means that the outside WR should see a lot of one on one match ups. The QB just has to read which side Peppers is going to help more. This also opens up corner routes to the outside which the Vikings have had success with quite a few times already this year, even with Keenum.

Both Diggs and Theilen should be good plays this week.

 

[massraider]

CLE plays both safeties deep.

Underneath passes will be there vs them always.

Diggs good to go?

 

[J R]

CLE plays both safeties deep.

Underneath passes will be there vs them always.

Diggs good to go?

Don't they play Thielen underneath more this year?

 

[Biabreakable]

Don't they play Thielen underneath more this year?

He has played more slot this year.

 

[oddsbodkins]

Yep, and Case has missed him there too. Keenum is such a buzzkill for these receivers and it's anyone's guess whether he'll good enough or basura.

 

[Biabreakable]

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport is reporting Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Stefon Diggs (ankle/ groin) is expected to play Week 8. (Ian Rapoport on Twitter)

 

[Biabreakable]

Vikings' Stefon Diggs: Expected to play

Diggs (groin) is expected to play against the Browns Sunday, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

As usual, Schefter cites an unnamed source, so be sure to check back for the official word before game time. But Diggs practiced in full Thursday and Friday, so his chances of playing are good.

 

[Fantasy Bum]

Diggs officially active for week 8 vs, Cleveland

 

[Soulfly3]

Welp, refuse to bench him. I just can't.

Pretty certain on a per game basis he's the overall #1 WR in my PPR league. 

If they made him active, he should be 100% LET'S DO THIS

 

[platapie]

Does this favor Diggs? 

My biggest concern is MIN goes up by 3 scores early (let's pretend 2 rushing and 1 passing to someone other than Diggs), so they go into a clock killing offense, and Diggs isn't much more of a scoring potential. 

I'd love a 10/100 stat line if that was the case, but I just worry they get up by a lot and go into run run run, punt or they just bench Diggs in garbage time, and he finishes with 3/45. Seriously considering playing JuJu over him; floor is about the same but the match up favors JuJu getting more opportunities 

Full disclosure-- I'm terrible at this.  If you construe any of this as advice,  I'd do the opposite of my recommendations.

That said, I need a high ceiling, and as such I'm rolling with Diggs over Juju because I see him as having the higher of the two.

 

[Captain Crunk]

I am firing him up in my .5 PPR over Funchess.  Still contemplating my other team where it is standard scoring and I have Garcon.  I hate early games!

 

[Soulfly3]

He's out there.

 

[Soulfly3]

And thrre's catch #1