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WR Tee Higgins, CIN (3 Viewers)

As soon as Tee Higgins wants to retire and get into coaching...that was an incredible play because he could have walked almost into the end zone
Sacrificed personal glory for the betterment of the team
I did not view it quite that way in the moment, I think players should always take TDs from the defense but in this scenario 31-30, you know your defense sucks
Outstanding display of intelligence and awareness
His Madden awareness should be 99 or 100

Still think a team should try and trade for him, I've always viewed him as a No 1 WR if he could have the opp somewhere, they drafted Chase the next season after Higgins arrived
 
Great for Tee. This game is likely going to be a shootout.
Do you play Higgins or Waddle vs the Jets?
They are both very good plays. I think I would go Higgins. I can see a scenario where Achane is just running it down the Jets throat all game long. CIN is going to have to score a ton to keep up with BUF.

I wouldn't fault you for going with Waddle, it is close.
 
Great for Tee. This game is likely going to be a shootout.
Do you play Higgins or Waddle vs the Jets?
They are both very good plays. I think I would go Higgins. I can see a scenario where Achane is just running it down the Jets throat all game long. CIN is going to have to score a ton to keep up with BUF.

I wouldn't fault you for going with Waddle, it is close.
What about Higgins or Judkins? Don't answer that, seriously. It's nice to have options. I don't want to turn this into a WDIS thread.
 
How's the Buffalo weather gonna be today?
I'm seeing some snow and moderate winds
Yes, snow. I don't expect wind to be a factor at 2-5 mph. Snow will be heavy at times, accumulating to about two inches I believe it was the last time I checked. Expect slippery conditions.
 
How's the Buffalo weather gonna be today?
I'm seeing some snow and moderate winds
Yes, snow. I don't expect wind to be a factor at 2-5 mph. Snow will be heavy at times, accumulating to about two inches I believe it was the last time I checked. Expect slippery conditions.
Yeah, it's making me think to go elsewhere.
Flowers, Mclaurin, Tee. Gotta pick 2.
Slippy conditions, I can see Tee grab two balls, but one is probably a 40 yard TD
 
How's the Buffalo weather gonna be today?
I'm seeing some snow and moderate winds
Yes, snow. I don't expect wind to be a factor at 2-5 mph. Snow will be heavy at times, accumulating to about two inches I believe it was the last time I checked. Expect slippery conditions.
Yeah, it's making me think to go elsewhere.
Flowers, Mclaurin, Tee. Gotta pick 2.
Slippy conditions, I can see Tee grab two balls, but one is probably a 40 yard TD
I've said this in the past and I'll say it now, I think slippery conditions favor the offense, because the offense know their routes and the defense has to react. Some have given me the
🤔 reaction to that in the past, but I'll die on that hill.
 
How's the Buffalo weather gonna be today?
I'm seeing some snow and moderate winds
Yes, snow. I don't expect wind to be a factor at 2-5 mph. Snow will be heavy at times, accumulating to about two inches I believe it was the last time I checked. Expect slippery conditions.
Yeah, it's making me think to go elsewhere.
Flowers, Mclaurin, Tee. Gotta pick 2.
Slippy conditions, I can see Tee grab two balls, but one is probably a 40 yard TD
I've said this in the past and I'll say it now, I think slippery conditions favor the offense, because the offense know their routes and the defense has to react. Some have given me the
🤔 reaction to that in the past, but I'll die on that hill.
Seems like this would be easy research.

Off the top of my head, I don't generally recall slippery fields leading to higher scoring averages and/or better WR stats.
 
How's the Buffalo weather gonna be today?
I'm seeing some snow and moderate winds
Yes, snow. I don't expect wind to be a factor at 2-5 mph. Snow will be heavy at times, accumulating to about two inches I believe it was the last time I checked. Expect slippery conditions.
Yeah, it's making me think to go elsewhere.
Flowers, Mclaurin, Tee. Gotta pick 2.
Slippy conditions, I can see Tee grab two balls, but one is probably a 40 yard TD
I've said this in the past and I'll say it now, I think slippery conditions favor the offense, because the offense know their routes and the defense has to react. Some have given me the
🤔 reaction to that in the past, but I'll die on that hill.

Moss says hello from the snowy tundra.

8 catches, 129 yards, 3 TDs
 
How's the Buffalo weather gonna be today?
I'm seeing some snow and moderate winds
Yes, snow. I don't expect wind to be a factor at 2-5 mph. Snow will be heavy at times, accumulating to about two inches I believe it was the last time I checked. Expect slippery conditions.
Yeah, it's making me think to go elsewhere.
Flowers, Mclaurin, Tee. Gotta pick 2.
Slippy conditions, I can see Tee grab two balls, but one is probably a 40 yard TD
I've said this in the past and I'll say it now, I think slippery conditions favor the offense, because the offense know their routes and the defense has to react. Some have given me the
🤔 reaction to that in the past, but I'll die on that hill.

Moss says hello from the snowy tundra.

8 catches, 129 yards, 3 TDs

Overall it’s a decent concept, but showing prime Brady to Moss for comparison is not fair to Higgins or pretty much anyone
 
A scare with hitting his head again, but great game. Keeps proving he's a great value in dynasty.
Back in the concussion protocol.

That can't be good for this week.

Ugh.
I think anyone watching yesterday, and knowing his situation, was surprised that he got back in the game after the first time he smacked his head off the turf and sat there for a while. It looked like he got his bell rung more than once yesterday.
 
A scare with hitting his head again, but great game. Keeps proving he's a great value in dynasty.
Back in the concussion protocol.

That can't be good for this week.

Ugh.
I think anyone watching yesterday, and knowing his situation, was surprised that he got back in the game after the first time he smacked his head off the turf and sat there for a while. It looked like he got his bell rung more than once yesterday.
No idea how he was able to go back in - especially just coming off a concussion.
 
ProFootballDoc says if he actually had another concussion, he’s done for the year

Two questions...

1) Is that a... rule or something?

2) Is there a difference between "having a concussion" and "being in the concussion protocol?"

I always thought being in the protocol meant you were concussed to some degree and every situation is different.
Not a rule. I have mixed feelings on PFD, in part because he sometimes talks out of his butt. Here , though, I agree with him. If you have two concussions in three weeks, doctors are not going to let you back on the field (nor should they). With only four games left, highly unlikely he comes back (especially with the team out of contention).

Every situation is different, What he said in the clip is that it’s possible Cinci is just exercising an abundance of caution. But if he actually had a second concussion, then he’s probably done
 
Ruled out with a concussion again.

Makes me wonder how he got cleared to go back into that game after he so obviously banged his head and looked woozy getting up.

Someone’s getting a fine.
 
Ruled out with a concussion again.

Makes me wonder how he got cleared to go back into that game after he so obviously banged his head and looked woozy getting up.

Someone’s getting a fine.
I say we remove his second touchdown from the state line. Seriously, someone who lost by .1.
I got knocked out of the playoffs in one of my dynasty leagues because of that play. It helped another team win, and I became the 7-seed despite winning my matchup by .4

They should definitely take his 2nd TD off the board.
:rant:
 
ProFootballDoc says if he actually had another concussion, he’s done for the year
Maybe this has to do with having 2 in a 3 week period.
Ya think?

This is almost the exact same scenario as Tua from a few years ago, minus the disturbing image of him in the fencing pose in an island game. League definitely needs to re-examine its in-game protocols.

Him going on IR will screw me in two different fantasy leagues, but I don’t see how they can roll him back out there this year
 
ProFootballDoc says if he actually had another concussion, he’s done for the year
Maybe this has to do with having 2 in a 3 week period.
Ya think?

This is almost the exact same scenario as Tua from a few years ago, minus the disturbing image of him in the fencing pose in an island game. League definitely needs to re-examine its in-game protocols.

Him going on IR will screw me in two different fantasy leagues, but I don’t see how they can roll him back out there this year
I’m kind of in disbelief over there being almost no reporting on how bad of a look this is - dude was in the blue tent not once, but twice after bonking his head. And that was after missing the prior week to concussion.

As soon as he hit his head the 1st time, I thought, “well that’s it for Higgins today.”

Honestly shocking he was allowed back in that game either time, a makes me question the protocols that allowed for it to happen. Shoulda taken his helmet from him immediately after the 1st one.

This didn’t happen in a vacuum, he was just concussed so bad that he missed a week! That context matters.

Like Lamb seemed ok, and practiced in full, and cleared protocol. But if he goes down hard on his head, I will actively root for him to be benched the rest of the game, symptoms or not. And I need Lamb in the playoffs.

TBI is nothing to play with. Seems like the Bengals were a little bit lax with this one.
 
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ProFootballDoc says if he actually had another concussion, he’s done for the year
Maybe this has to do with having 2 in a 3 week period.
Ya think?

This is almost the exact same scenario as Tua from a few years ago, minus the disturbing image of him in the fencing pose in an island game. League definitely needs to re-examine its in-game protocols.

Him going on IR will screw me in two different fantasy leagues, but I don’t see how they can roll him back out there this year
I’m kind of in disbelief over there being almost no reporting on how bad of a look this is - dude was in the blue tent not once, but twice after bonking his head. And that was after missing the prior week to concussion.

As soon as he hit his head the 1st time, I thought, “well that’s it for Higgins today.”

Honestly shocking he was allowed back in that game either time, a makes me question the protocols that allowed for it to happen. Shoulda taken his helmet from him immediately after the 1st one.

This didn’t happen in a vacuum, he was just confused so bad that he missed a week! That context matters.

Like Lamb seemed ok, and practiced in full, and cleared protocol. But if he goes down hard on his head, I will actively root for him to be benched the rest of the game, symptoms or not. And I need Lamb in the playoffs.

TBI is nothing to play with. Seems like the Bengals were a little bit lax with this one.

Agreed. It was Tua... wobbling, falling over, but still playing... all over again.

Maybe it was poorly managed by CIN. Might be a contributing factor to Joe Burrows sadness.
 
The 9 TDs have saved his FF season somewhat, but overall, another kind of wasted season between the Burrow injury and him being dinged up. Only 3 games over 70 yards. Not great for a guy drafted in the 3rd round range.

Always hard to pass on him in that range because of what could be playing with Burrow on a team with a bad defense and constantly chasing points but I'll try really hard to go a different route next year.
 
If Cincy loses, Higgins maybe shut down ros. Having that many concussions in a short time,needs long time to get right ..

Doubt he plays next week.
Disagree that the results of tomorrow’s game matters. Concussions are, in theory, a binary decision. It’s not like an ankle sprain or a shoulder separation where you can try to play through it. If you are experiencing concussion symptoms, or it’s dangerous for you to be out there, you shouldn’t be playing. Period. Playoff considerations should have nothing to do with it

One way where I could see external factors coming into play is if the team/league is so embarrassed about how they’ve handled the situation so far, they just decide to shut him down to avoid the (completely justifiable) criticism.

Still, as a non-doctor, I’m still waiting to hear the medical explanation for why two concussions in three weeks wouldn’t automatically mean you need to be shut down for awhile to avoid the risk of long-term damage. As I understand it, repeated concussions make it more likely that it will happen again (or is it that they make the damage caused by any future concussions worse? I’m not clear on that)
 
ProFootballDoc says if he actually had another concussion, he’s done for the year
Maybe this has to do with having 2 in a 3 week period.
Ya think?

This is almost the exact same scenario as Tua from a few years ago, minus the disturbing image of him in the fencing pose in an island game. League definitely needs to re-examine its in-game protocols.

Him going on IR will screw me in two different fantasy leagues, but I don’t see how they can roll him back out there this year
I’m kind of in disbelief over there being almost no reporting on how bad of a look this is - dude was in the blue tent not once, but twice after bonking his head. And that was after missing the prior week to concussion.

As soon as he hit his head the 1st time, I thought, “well that’s it for Higgins today.”

Honestly shocking he was allowed back in that game either time, a makes me question the protocols that allowed for it to happen. Shoulda taken his helmet from him immediately after the 1st one.

This didn’t happen in a vacuum, he was just confused so bad that he missed a week! That context matters.

Like Lamb seemed ok, and practiced in full, and cleared protocol. But if he goes down hard on his head, I will actively root for him to be benched the rest of the game, symptoms or not. And I need Lamb in the playoffs.

TBI is nothing to play with. Seems like the Bengals were a little bit lax with this one.

Agreed. It was Tua... wobbling, falling over, but still playing... all over again.

Maybe it was poorly managed by CIN. Might be a contributing factor to Joe Burrows sadness.
The Tua situation was bad, but this one looks worse. In Tua‘s case, the concussion they seemingly missed was the first one. But with Higgins, he was coming off a concussion, got checked twice on the sidelines, was cleared, and then was discovered to have suffered a second.

There are two possibilities here: One, the guys who cleared him effed up and didn’t follow the proper procedure to let him back in the game. Two — and this would be even scarier — they did follow the protocol. If the protocol clears someone later discovered to have a concussion, then, to paraphrase Dickens, the protocol is an a##. That’s especially true in a situation where basic logic would suggest he not be cleared
 
ProFootballDoc says if he actually had another concussion, he’s done for the year
Maybe this has to do with having 2 in a 3 week period.
Ya think?

This is almost the exact same scenario as Tua from a few years ago, minus the disturbing image of him in the fencing pose in an island game. League definitely needs to re-examine its in-game protocols.

Him going on IR will screw me in two different fantasy leagues, but I don’t see how they can roll him back out there this year
I’m kind of in disbelief over there being almost no reporting on how bad of a look this is - dude was in the blue tent not once, but twice after bonking his head. And that was after missing the prior week to concussion.

As soon as he hit his head the 1st time, I thought, “well that’s it for Higgins today.”

Honestly shocking he was allowed back in that game either time, a makes me question the protocols that allowed for it to happen. Shoulda taken his helmet from him immediately after the 1st one.

This didn’t happen in a vacuum, he was just confused so bad that he missed a week! That context matters.

Like Lamb seemed ok, and practiced in full, and cleared protocol. But if he goes down hard on his head, I will actively root for him to be benched the rest of the game, symptoms or not. And I need Lamb in the playoffs.

TBI is nothing to play with. Seems like the Bengals were a little bit lax with this one.

Agreed. It was Tua... wobbling, falling over, but still playing... all over again.

Maybe it was poorly managed by CIN. Might be a contributing factor to Joe Burrows sadness.
The Tua situation was bad, but this one looks worse. In Tua‘s case, the concussion they seemingly missed was the first one. But with Higgins, he was coming off a concussion, got checked twice on the sidelines, was cleared, and then was discovered to have suffered a second.

There are two possibilities here: One, the guys who cleared him effed up and didn’t follow the proper procedure to let him back in the game. Two — and this would be even scarier — they did follow the protocol. If the protocol clears someone later discovered to have a concussion, then, to paraphrase Dickens, the protocol is an a##. That’s especially true in a situation where basic logic would suggest he not be cleared
100% - I cannot imagine how he was cleared from the 1st. As I said before, the context of “this dude you’re evaluating just missed last week because of a concussion” should have ended his day the second his head bounced off the turf.

I can think of no protocol worth a **** that would clear a player who was just concussed so badly that they missed a game the prior week.

Something isn’t adding up with this one.
 

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