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WR Tee Higgins, CIN (2 Viewers)

As a Bengals fan, you have to be happy for Chase and Higgins. I do wonder what the Bengals do on roster construction in the future. You can not keep giving record-breaking deals without sacrificing a significant portion of the roster. I suppose we better hit on our rookies for the foreseeable future.
 
Buckna said:
menobrown said:
Faust said:
Brett Kollmann
Higgins isn’t just the highest paid WR2 now, he’s the 9th-highest paid receiver period.

This is going to have a pretty substantial impact on the eventual extensions for McLaurin, Puka, and Collins.
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Not negativity towards you Faust but I don’t agree with this guys take. Don’t see anything about Tee’s deal which reset any market?
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Also is there another Collins I am forgetting? Nico signed an extension last May. Although maybe they mean his next extension as he's still pretty young and it was only a 3 year deal.
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FWIW he did mean Nico. I clicked on the tweet and someone mentioned Nico and he said that his contract was a placeholder.
 
menobrown said:
Faust said:
Brett Kollmann
Higgins isn’t just the highest paid WR2 now, he’s the 9th-highest paid receiver period.

This is going to have a pretty substantial impact on the eventual extensions for McLaurin, Puka, and Collins.
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Not negativity towards you Faust but I don’t agree with this guys take. Don’t see anything about Tee’s deal which reset any market?
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If anything, it seems like a bit of a hometown discount. $28.75 AAV is what similar WRs got last offseason before the cap went up 9.3%.
 
jtd13 said:
menobrown said:
Faust said:
Brett Kollmann
Higgins isn’t just the highest paid WR2 now, he’s the 9th-highest paid receiver period.

This is going to have a pretty substantial impact on the eventual extensions for McLaurin, Puka, and Collins.
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Not negativity towards you Faust but I don’t agree with this guys take. Don’t see anything about Tee’s deal which reset any market?
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If anything, it seems like a bit of a hometown discount. $28.75 AAV is what similar WRs got last offseason before the cap went up 9.3%.
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Some might say injury discount but I think he'd have toppled $30M on the open market so I'm with you, a hometown discount if anything.

Not only what you are mentioning with the cap, which is significant, but also that Tee was in a far better negotiation position then any of those other WR's due to Cincy exhausting his contract and the tags, plus the draft class and better options that were available to teams last year to address WR.

Aiyuk got more money then Tee, in a rich draft class, when SF had his rights on the 5th year option but franchise tags at their disposal for the next few years.

Also noticed he did not reference Metcalfs deal. Maybe he's right to ignore that one until we know the real structure, I feel strongly it's going to look a lot worse. But if DK really can make $33m a year, even for two years, now that's the kind of deal that resets the WR market.
 
Smart for the Bengals. They are currently built to win games by overpowering teams on offense and simply outscoring their opponents. They were very unlikely to turn their defense around quickly enough to try and change that identity and still remain competitive, so may as well lean into it.
 
Just doesn't feel like he is only 26. Seems like he has been around a bit longer. Also kinda surprised fantasypros has him at wr13 for the upcoming season. Elite QB. Bad defense. Chase pulls the coverage. Was getting 9 targets a game last year. What are we thinking? Good wr2? Can he go low wr1 numbers?
 
Well, he did pull off 15.5 ppg, which was good for around WR3 in .5ppr. His TD rate was pretty sky high. Bound to be some regression, but the question for me is can he stay healthy?
 
midnight_green81 said:
GPS said:
Well, he did pull off 15.5 ppg, which was good for around WR3 in .5ppr. His TD rate was pretty sky high. Bound to be some regression, but the question for me is can he stay healthy?
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Man, I swear if this dude can stay healthy for one full season he is a WR1
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If you told me he played 16 games in a season I’d be surprised if he wasn’t top 10. Unbelievably talented.

But the injuries are always the rub with him. Almost have to figure he missed at least 2-3.
 
ghostguy123 said:
Big Nate said:
menobrown said:
Faust said:
Bengals' Tee Higgins says he plans on staying healthy this season
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Did he plan on getting injured the other years?
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Lol exactly. Maybe just maybe he finally decided to take care of himself. We can only hope. When he is on the field he is a difference maker but he's banged up every other game.
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You don't think he takes care of himself??
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I don't want to spend a lot of time on this but there are college players who come into the NFL and then realize just doing "enough" to get by isn't enough. If you look at guys like Derek Henry, Tom Brady, Lebron James etc who are 100% all in on their health, eating, rest and recovery, etc maybe he realized he should be doing more.

As a coach (not football but it still stands) I see players who can get by on their talents but don't do all the little things to help with their recovery or maintenance of their bodies. These kids come out of college and now have millions of dollars and might not put their health first.

I don't know Higgins but what he said about "planning to stay healthy" this year is a very odd statement. Why wasn't he working on staying healthy before? Maybe he realized he needs to change his diet/supplements, his sleep, his recovery (physio, massage, stretching etc). It has to be a life style change and many people don't take it seriously - it has to be an every day thing he lives for the rest of his NFL career. It takes effort and many are lazy (again not saying he is) and just get by from their god given talent until their body breaks down.
 
Big Nate said:
ghostguy123 said:
Big Nate said:
menobrown said:
Faust said:
Bengals' Tee Higgins says he plans on staying healthy this season
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Did he plan on getting injured the other years?
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Lol exactly. Maybe just maybe he finally decided to take care of himself. We can only hope. When he is on the field he is a difference maker but he's banged up every other game.
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You don't think he takes care of himself??
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I don't want to spend a lot of time on this but there are college players who come into the NFL and then realize just doing "enough" to get by isn't enough. If you look at guys like Derek Henry, Tom Brady, Lebron James etc who are 100% all in on their health, eating, rest and recovery, etc maybe he realized he should be doing more.

As a coach (not football but it still stands) I see players who can get by on their talents but don't do all the little things to help with their recovery or maintenance of their bodies. These kids come out of college and now have millions of dollars and might not put their health first.

I don't know Higgins but what he said about "planning to stay healthy" this year is a very odd statement. Why wasn't he working on staying healthy before? Maybe he realized he needs to change his diet/supplements, his sleep, his recovery (physio, massage, stretching etc). It has to be a life style change and many people don't take it seriously - it has to be an every day thing he lives for the rest of his NFL career. It takes effort and many are lazy (again not saying he is) and just get by from their god given talent until their body breaks down.
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100%. I call it the Jerry Rice thing. It's the thing you can't know for sure during combine interviews. Is this player gonna give 80% and cruise with his talent or is this player gonna Jerry Rice it and give every second of everyday to get better. Think Kobe also. I have no idea what Tee is or has been in this regard.
 
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