barackdhouse
Footballguy
He was talking about the foot surgery in 2019. Had knee scope in January of this year. Then crushed his pro day. IDK. The reporting has been pretty strange.
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WR Terrace Marshall, PHI (2 Viewers)
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
I see people taking Rondale Moore over Marshall. I don't agree with it, but it is happening in some of my leagues. The real decision is between Marshall and the other Moore (Elijah).
I don't want to let the cat out of the bag because I haven't drafted yet. But he's a Top 5 WR prospect in this class. Poor man's Andre Johnson.
This year's Chase Claypool. Book it. New regime in Carolina is bringing in "their guys" and I guess he dropped due to injury. You watch the tape and it's clear the kid can play. But don't go around yapping to everybody about it...
This year's Chase Claypool. Book it. New regime in Carolina is bringing in "their guys" and I guess he dropped due to injury. You watch the tape and it's clear the kid can play. But don't go around yapping to everybody about it...
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I don't have DJ Moore anywhere but he is at the top of my sell now list. CMC and Marshall will be the top 2 targets by seasons end.
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woodstock
Footballguy
I don't understand it, either, but it might be good for him if Darnold is throwing him the ball for the next two years or so. Darnold loved him some TEs and Crowder during his tenure with the Jets.
Who knows, really, what these guys are all thinking or whether these reports and subsequent parsing are remotely accurate?
Shawnky
Footballguy
Larry Fitzgerald and Marques Colston played a great deal in the slot during their careers.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Total mismatch. Just like why teams put Kelce or Waller in the slot. Too big for safeties or nickel corners, too fast for LBs. Plus they have 2 established vets who can play outside. Putting a rookie in the slot (like Dallas did with Lamb) can help ease the transition to the NFL. He won't have to worry about lining up 1 on 1 with Lattimore who can jam him at the line.
Pwingles
Footballguy
I think it could be for a few reasons.
Mismatches, as stated above.
Easier to pick up the offense from the slot, less packages to overwhelm a rookie.
DJM and Robby might actually just suck from the slot.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
lots of teams running big slots
Travis Kelce plays the slot more than tight end (38.9% v 36.7%)
Travis Kelce plays the slot more than tight end (38.9% v 36.7%)
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I get Kelce in the slot. It's not very different than having a TE in-line, imo.
I "get" why you would try it, but the guy forecasts to be an outside receiver. Seems like he's out of place in the slot, taking opportunity from an actual slot guy.
There's a lot I fear about Marshall as a defender, but his lateral speed is not one of them. I just think it's bad coaching.
Fitzgerald went to the slot once he got old. Colston was drafted as a TE so makes sense as a big slot. Lamb did admirably, but I contest that he's not very much of a slot guy either.
As an owner, I should just be happy he's in line for snaps.
Good points. Lamb, who had elite success on 9 routes last season, should be on the boundary.
The other side of the coin is sometimes coaches use a big slot to give a good YAC guy layups and find a way to get the ball in his hands. Good examples of that are Cooper Kupp (6’2” 208) and Michael Thomas (6’3” 212.) Kupp has has seasons with over 600 Slot snaps, while Thomas - you guys remember when he used to be healthy - lines up there ~ 30% of the time but it accounts for 45% of his targets.
In general, though, boundary snaps are going to result in higher value deep targets, and obviously you would prefer that for the guy you own.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I don’t think he is going to be in the slot his whole career. Probably just this year to help him transition. Plus it’s where the offense needs help. He played slot a lot in college so it’s not a new role for him either. But yeah like you said I’m just glad he’s getting on the field.I get Kelce in the slot. It's not very different than having a TE in-line, imo.
I "get" why you would try it, but the guy forecasts to be an outside receiver. Seems like he's out of place in the slot, taking opportunity from an actual slot guy.
There's a lot I fear about Marshall as a defender, but his lateral speed is not one of them. I just think it's bad coaching.
Fitzgerald went to the slot once he got old. Colston was drafted as a TE so makes sense as a big slot. Lamb did admirably, but I contest that he's not very much of a slot guy either.
As an owner, I should just be happy he's in line for snaps.
massraider
Footballguy
If he is showing that versatility early, and/or coaches like him enough to get him on field anyway they can, it's even better news than more snaps
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Took him in my rookie draft this year. LSU WR….had to take the chance. Loving all this positive news.
3 hour lunch
Footballguy
Nice first half- 5 targets, 3/88
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
That was one of the least impressive 60 yard catches I have ever seen. That statement however does not take away anything from what the player could become.
Hah, I kind of thought the same and was surprised he got caught. I think he's a pretty fast guy; with a pretty solid cushion and no one in front of him it seems like that should've gone the distance.
NBD though, it's preseason.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
This is what I'm thinking and its a decision I'll probably have to make for my rookie draft.
jm192
Footballguy
Another strong showing last night. Got into the endzone. Pre-season, sure. But he's looked great. He's a solid late round lotto ticket WR, but love love love him in dynasty. I'm picking at 12 in 2 leagues and he's probably my 1st round target at that point assuming nothing crazy happens on the prior picks.
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heckmanm
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I make this kind of trade all the time (2-5 times per year on average) to get future 1sts but I don't think I could have with Marshall on the board.
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Denver724
Footballguy
I offered him my 2022 1st straight up and he took your deal instead with the 3.10. I was taking Marshall too. Great minds think alike. LOL!
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Shawnky
Footballguy
It’s that good Colorado living. I live in Denver.
I actually through that 3.10 in there as I thought that would entice him a little more. Glad he didn’t counter for my 2nd.
Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
6 targets in his first NFL game ever, at least worth a mention here. Definitely involved in the offense, this may not be his breakout week but seems like he may be flying under the radar a bit.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
I really bought in to training camp and preseason. Terrace profiles well and Curtis Samuel had a very nice season last year in this offense but its just not happening yet. Only path I see is a Robby or DJ injury at this point. Maybe a nice game here or there but probably nothing bankable week to week.
Has everyone cut bait in redraft?
Has everyone cut bait in redraft?
finfansteve
Footballguy
I bid him adieu two weeks ago. I don’t think he will have much value until maybe the second half of the year when darnold really settles into the offense
TampaMike19
Footballguy
He had the longshot potential to be the #1 in this offense in the next few years but DJ Moore took offense to that and is scorching earth lol. DJ Moore also took offense to Robby's contract lol
He wants to get paid
He wants to get paid
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sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Same here. I thought he had a chance to make some noise in redraft this year. I still think he could, but I don't know if it will be worth the wait. Attempted to drop him for Lance before the 3pm games in my 14-team / 6 bench redraft, but the transaction didn't go through.
11 targets for Robbie this week. He didn't do much with them. Before that it almost seemed fair to wonder if he had passed him for the #2, but probably not with that contract.
Letting Marshall go is probably the way to go, but I will definitely be bidding a fairly large chunk of FAAB if Anderson or Moore go down. I could easily talk myself into letting things play out for the duration that CMC is out and seeing if the breakthrough comes (or an injury).
