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Seriously why would that be shut down? It was a tribute to deceased musical artists - nothing sinister about it. One of the truly dumbest things I've ever seen. What is the thought process. The Monty Python sketch pushed it over the edge? Wow, just wow.
except that's really not what happened at all.
or a thread accusing Hillary Clinton of running a child molestation ring....just saying.
Link to anyone saying this?
here are all the posts referencing Petty. I don't see any "steal of the draft" or "value pick" comments, so if that's part of your reasoning- please reconsider.
Tom Petty vocal song tbd
Oh man you are one cold hearted sob
great pick (this poster wasn't participating in the draft, fwiw... and should be banned for not rating my Joe Strummer pick)
Am I bad if whenever I read that I think of this?
i did tooduring this afternoon's confusion (the bag emoticon should tip you off that this poster likewise feels bad about it)
lame...
because we were all after the tremendous prize money that comes with winning that draft.
Dude, people leave the boards all the time, you're just not seeing it. I just want to leave my contact info here for people who want it.
Since you've been here so long, I figured you knew Joe's last name doesn't have an 8 in it
If so, I'd pay for it. I volunteer to pay for bandwidth. If it's explicit, let's make it so.
pretty sure it was the arguing about drafting Tom Petty the moment he died, then undied yesterday after a bunch of people got shot in Vegas and the board folks have been on edge.
that's obvious and they were uncomfortable moments in an awkwardness of time. but anyone who really cared about value would look at the names on the 750 posts in the thread and read the page after page of content doing great honor to the heros of our pasts and done no more than caution the offenders, myself among them
I'm sorry to hear you think that. We'll just have to disagree. We've never tried to "leverage" the boards into a revenue stream. It's more a thing of how we've tried to operate our company and not as much not having the "business sense" to turn the boards into a "revenue stream". For passive aggressive "don't let the door hit ya", I hope it doesn't come to that. We have tried to be pretty clear that we're not for everyone. We get that some people won't like how we do do things. That's life. But with half a million voices all with an opinion, if we did what everyone wanted, nothing would get done. Again, that's life. I fully get not everyone will agree with all we do.
This would have been sufficient, especially given the tenor of the thread. Massive overreaction on Joe's part here. This isn't even consistent with the usual pattern of inconsistency.
Would you at least be willing to offer an explanation as to why you took the action that you did?
you did it to a thread full of respectful people, who self-moderated the offensive posts when things got a little over the line. again- you should be looking for that kind of behavior (the self-moderation), not punishing it.
See a very reasonable interpretation of that was the Monty Python link was in response to a post that said "he's not dead yet" - meaning that triggered the response. It really had nothing to do with TP himself.
sounds like he's done.
Oh yeah- well, I'll just rip up your drawing. justice.
One of the things that is bothering me is I sent an apologetic note to Joe as quickly as I could last night after I noticed the thread was blocked (I had issues with my internet, but it was fairly quick) and he has read this thread, but not my note. I posted above requesting he look at it, and he hasn't.
That's the key - FFA will always be "some people" to you because you can't cash out on us. After almost two decades, the FFA is a community of people who've given aid & comfort & advice & encouragement & friendship & sarcasm & actual material aid to members in need, sometimes abject need with no other place to turn. Like it or not, you have a personal, if not professional, responsibility for the monster you've created in the name of personal gain, and seasonal manifestos, capricious acts and greater concern for occasional miscreance than consistent quality are more hindrance than help. We cant reassemble this community anywhere else (it's been tried before in other forums) so you have us at your mercy. But your shrugging attitude toward chasing "volunteers" away, though it's literally your business, says a lot about you that you'd be very glad not to hear others say.
Honestly when I read "he's not dead yet" - the first thing I thought of was Monty Python as well.
Joe, in recognition and appreciation for the FBG community you've hosted over the years ... may I respectfully offer an alternative?Joe Bryant said:
There are not mean spirited people in the music draft. You misinterpreted that Monty Python comment, but that has been pointed out to you more than once. The whole draft is honoring deceased artists that have left huge imprints on music's landscape. Drafters were building there ultimate bands of these great artists that have left us, but their music lives on. You locked out a bunch of music lovers, and you should know that a music lover feels the loss of Tom Petty. Let em play.Joe Bryant said:
