Jeff Pasquino
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Your WRs to come had better be packing a lot of upside.
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WSL IV (2 Viewers)
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
the_sig
Footballguy
My squad so far:
1.06 Tom Brady, QB, NE
2.11 Laurence Maroney, RB, NE
4.11 LenDale White, RB, TEN
6.11 Jerious Norwood, RB, ATL
9.06 Julius Jones, RB DAL
3.06 Torry Holt, WR, STL
7.06 Chris Henry, WR, CIN
8.11 Donte Stallworth, WR, NE
5.06 Todd Heap, TE, BAL
Meh....we'll see how the 'QB in RD1 experiment' goes.
ETA....I am very happy with my RB starters/depth. I think Norwood/JJ should provide soild depth at RB. Both could be solid contributors depending on how the situations change in ATL/DAL in the coming months.
1.06 Tom Brady, QB, NE
2.11 Laurence Maroney, RB, NE
4.11 LenDale White, RB, TEN
6.11 Jerious Norwood, RB, ATL
9.06 Julius Jones, RB DAL
3.06 Torry Holt, WR, STL
7.06 Chris Henry, WR, CIN
8.11 Donte Stallworth, WR, NE
5.06 Todd Heap, TE, BAL
Meh....we'll see how the 'QB in RD1 experiment' goes.
ETA....I am very happy with my RB starters/depth. I think Norwood/JJ should provide soild depth at RB. Both could be solid contributors depending on how the situations change in ATL/DAL in the coming months.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
Just looking at the draft, in hindsight I probably won't be happy with TE/QB in rounds 2 and 3. I decided I'd go BPA, and not worry too much about the strategy, if anything you can describe my strategy as "flexible". The other good TEs dropped further than I thought they might, so maybe I should have taken Roy, Colston, or Braylon instead of Gates, but I didn't like the value. Romo also was BPA, and in a 16 team league, good QBs should be worth more, so I don't dislike this pick either, but it's the combination of TE and QB that hurt my WRs. Tony Romo, QB4, DAL
Good #1 QB, depth will come.
Clinton Portis, RB9. WASH
Cedric Benson, RB35, CHI
Justin Fargas, RB38, OAK
I actually like this group, Portis was great value at 1.10, Benson and Fargas should both start or at worst be a good part of RBBC, as 35th and 38th RBs taken, can't do better really.
Roddy White, WR23, ATL
Santana Moss, WR29, WAS
Derrick Mason, WR35, BAL
Ron Curry, WR52 OAK
This is the group I am concerned about. Not horrible if my other players come through, but I'll have to get depth with upside. Aside from Mason, this group strikes me as "big play central", but I may have some empty weeks
Antonio Gates, TE1, SD
Gates, what else do I need to say? Underachieved a little last year, but will be the #1 TE again this year. As consistent as they come, along with Ladanian and Peyton.
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Road Warriors
Footballguy
My squad so far:
3.13 Carson Palmer, QB, CIN
7.13 Jason Campbell, QB, WAS
1.13 Willie Parker, RB, PIT
4.04 Brandon Jacobs, RB, NYG
2.04 Larry Fitzgerald, WR, ARI
5.13 Laveraneus Coles, WR NYJ
8.04 Arnaz Battle, WR, SF
6.04 Owen Daniels, TE, HOU
3.13 Carson Palmer, QB, CIN
7.13 Jason Campbell, QB, WAS
1.13 Willie Parker, RB, PIT
4.04 Brandon Jacobs, RB, NYG
2.04 Larry Fitzgerald, WR, ARI
5.13 Laveraneus Coles, WR NYJ
8.04 Arnaz Battle, WR, SF
6.04 Owen Daniels, TE, HOU
el super gringo
Footballguy
i'll go with the trend and post my squad after 8
4.10 Big Ben
1.07 Larry Johnson
5.07 Thomas Jones
7.07 Rudi Johnson
2.10 Marques Colston
3.07 Brandon Marshall
6.10 Vernon Davis
8.10 Donald Lee
seems pretty pedestrian. i passed on chad johnson at 3.07 because i'm a traumatized eagles fan who sees this situation as similar to the offseason after 2004 with terrell owens. his 2005 season went to #### and the whole debacle was largely fueled by mr. drew rosenhaus, who also happens to be the agent chad johnson hired before he went on his "trade me" campaign.
4.10 Big Ben
1.07 Larry Johnson
5.07 Thomas Jones
7.07 Rudi Johnson
2.10 Marques Colston
3.07 Brandon Marshall
6.10 Vernon Davis
8.10 Donald Lee
seems pretty pedestrian. i passed on chad johnson at 3.07 because i'm a traumatized eagles fan who sees this situation as similar to the offseason after 2004 with terrell owens. his 2005 season went to #### and the whole debacle was largely fueled by mr. drew rosenhaus, who also happens to be the agent chad johnson hired before he went on his "trade me" campaign.
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Pimpin Ain't Easy
Footballguy
I actually like this team alot. Solid across the board. WR 3 might be lacking a little, but it's best ball, and you got 2 top 15 type WR's already in the mix.You grab a kicker soon, and you are the team to beat!
FUBAR
Footballguy
I actually like this team alot. Solid across the board. WR 3 might be lacking a little, but it's best ball, and you got 2 top 15 type WR's already in the mix.You grab a kicker soon, and you are the team to beat!
If Rudi comes back and Davis performs up to his (so far latent) talent, this team will go far.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Seems like a lot of receptions and TDs so far...
NorrisB
Footballguy
Jay Cutler, QB13, DEN
JaMarcus Russell, QB22, OAK
Marshawn Lynch, RB12, BUF
Kenny Watson, RB44, CIN
Sammy Morris, RB47, NE
Terrell Owens, WR3, DAL
Calvin "CJ2" Johnson, WR17, DET
Anthony Gonzalez, WR32, INDY
Mark Clayton, WR42, BAL
Chris Cooley, TE5, WASH
Not exactly how I had planned, the RBs went alot higher in WSL4 then they did in previous WSLs and I was hoping to take advantage of that but it didnt quite workout. Kenny Watson should be the favorite for the Bengals starting job after Rudi is let go, however I do think that the Bengals will draft another RB. Sammy Morris was the preferred RB in NE when both were on the field and I expect him to be used fairly heavily and I think the Pats will be more run oriented this season getting back to what they do best in running the football to take pressure off the defense so they can play good defense.
The QBs should be fine Jay Cutler was QB9 PPG his rookie season and QB13 last year so I feel he should be a decent #1 QB. Russell is a guy with alot of potential that I think is going to make some big strides this season. I like my TE, and WRs Calvin Johnson is going to take the next step this year and AGonzoJR will take over for the finished Marvin Harrison, and he finished the last 6 weeks WR22, and I expect that number to climb this year with another year of experience and more time with Manning. Clayton is another guy Im high on, he's a very polished WR, he does everything well, not the most flashy but he can turn into a Reggie Wayne just needs the situation for it.
JP you should swap Sidney Rice and AGonzo in your rankings it makes no sense from your philosophical view to have a talented player in a worse situation that youll have to wait on then a good talent in a great situation which you wont have to wait on.
JaMarcus Russell, QB22, OAK
Marshawn Lynch, RB12, BUF
Kenny Watson, RB44, CIN
Sammy Morris, RB47, NE
Terrell Owens, WR3, DAL
Calvin "CJ2" Johnson, WR17, DET
Anthony Gonzalez, WR32, INDY
Mark Clayton, WR42, BAL
Chris Cooley, TE5, WASH
Not exactly how I had planned, the RBs went alot higher in WSL4 then they did in previous WSLs and I was hoping to take advantage of that but it didnt quite workout. Kenny Watson should be the favorite for the Bengals starting job after Rudi is let go, however I do think that the Bengals will draft another RB. Sammy Morris was the preferred RB in NE when both were on the field and I expect him to be used fairly heavily and I think the Pats will be more run oriented this season getting back to what they do best in running the football to take pressure off the defense so they can play good defense.
The QBs should be fine Jay Cutler was QB9 PPG his rookie season and QB13 last year so I feel he should be a decent #1 QB. Russell is a guy with alot of potential that I think is going to make some big strides this season. I like my TE, and WRs Calvin Johnson is going to take the next step this year and AGonzoJR will take over for the finished Marvin Harrison, and he finished the last 6 weeks WR22, and I expect that number to climb this year with another year of experience and more time with Manning. Clayton is another guy Im high on, he's a very polished WR, he does everything well, not the most flashy but he can turn into a Reggie Wayne just needs the situation for it.
JP you should swap Sidney Rice and AGonzo in your rankings it makes no sense from your philosophical view to have a talented player in a worse situation that youll have to wait on then a good talent in a great situation which you wont have to wait on.
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NorrisB
Footballguy
Is earnest graham really that much better then Kenny Watson JP?
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
well, I was looking at Watson, but the last thing I needed was another Bengal.....I think Graham is better than Watson for 2008 because of the "who else?" factor. Plus he's a great receiver as well, big value in these leagues.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
Thought I'd throw it out there now that we've gotten nearly half-way. Nothing really special to speak of yet. I'm not ecstatic nor disappointed at this time.
the_sig
Footballguy
Out of curiousity, what is your thought process (bolded portion) here? I'm curious as I'm the Maroney owner who honestly decided to pass on handcuffing Sammy to Maroney as I just thought Sammy will play 'a role' in 2008, but certainly not a huge one. They were only on the feild at the same time 3 weeks last year (wks 1-3) and it appeared to be a 60/40 split to Maroney. Based on how Maroney finished the last half of 2007, I assumed that would get no worse....maybe even 70/30 in favor of Maroney with the 30 to 35% a mix of Sammy & Faulk. I just don't see a 31 year old Morris who spent a chunk of the 2007 season on IR getting a ton of time. I could be wrong though, I certainly have misjudged things in the past. Interested to hear yours or others thoughts on this...
FUBAR
Footballguy
Solid group, I'm not in love with this team, but it has the start of a strong contender if the WRs can come through.
Road Warriors
Footballguy
Fair effort, I'd change a pick or two, but this looks like a middle of the pack team so far.
el super gringo
Footballguy
with the exception of lynch, T.O., cutler, and cooley, this team is a lesson in "dont count your chickens before they hatch"
el super gringo
Footballguy
is earnest graham vs kenny watson even a question? (and it's thAn, pet peeve)
el super gringo
Footballguy
if NorrisB's team is "dont count your chickens before they hatch" then this team is "dont put all your eggs in one basket"... or.. well.. 3. i can see the positives of doubling up guys, but if two of these pairs match up bye weeks that's 4 out of your top10 picks out of the running. sounds bad to me, despite all the obvious talent. but i'm just a noob though so what do i know.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
Your WRs make mine look goodHasslebeckJLewis, Ronnie Brown, ADPChambers, Rice, Reggie Brown, Toomer, WadeZMiller, Crumplah
Good team aside from that.
the_sig
Footballguy
My squad so far:
1.06 Tom Brady, QB, NE
2.11 Laurence Maroney, RB, NE
4.11 LenDale White, RB, TEN
6.11 Jerious Norwood, RB, ATL
9.06 Julius Jones, RB DAL
3.06 Torry Holt, WR, STL
7.06 Chris Henry, WR, CIN
8.11 Donte Stallworth, WR, NE
10.11 Steve Smith, WR, NYG
11.06 James Jones, WR GB
5.06 Todd Heap, TE, BAL
I'm liking this squad more as the draft has unfolded. Brady was a 'safe pick' w/ 6pts per TD. He has a shot to be top scorer in the league again, but likely has a floor around QB5 imo. If Brady's numbers are down due to a re-emphasis on the run, it'll make the Maroney pick likely even better. LenDale should be solid. I would have handcuffed him with Chris Henry, who I like, but Henry went a round or two before I wanted. The RB 3/4 depth should help. Both of these guys could be solid contributors. Maybe this is the year we finally see if Norwood can handle the load? Anything above 200+ carries, and I think this was a steal. I also like Julius as late as I got him. I think he still has plenty to offer, and would love to see him go to another team like HOU or maybe SEA. We'll have to see. WR's were my biggest concern. Holt should contribute most every week. I like Henry's potential, if he can keep the knucklehead factor in check this year, he could be solid. I'd be even happier if either he or CJ leave Cincy, which are possibilities. I picked up Stallworth assuming he'd be gone from NE. Honestly, I need him to be a solid contributor, so where he lands will probably be critical to the success of my WR core. Steve Smith & James Jones add some nice young WR talent that have considerable upside. They will likely each only contribute a handfull of weeks unless they break out this year. Heap at TE was a steal in my opinion. He played in 16 games in each of 2005 & 2006 and was the #2 and #4 scoring TE in this format. Here is to hoping he can stay reasonably healthy and that Cam is able to get this offense back in shape. QB is ceratinly a question for BAL, so that could hinder Heap's value as well.
1.06 Tom Brady, QB, NE
2.11 Laurence Maroney, RB, NE
4.11 LenDale White, RB, TEN
6.11 Jerious Norwood, RB, ATL
9.06 Julius Jones, RB DAL
3.06 Torry Holt, WR, STL
7.06 Chris Henry, WR, CIN
8.11 Donte Stallworth, WR, NE
10.11 Steve Smith, WR, NYG
11.06 James Jones, WR GB
5.06 Todd Heap, TE, BAL
I'm liking this squad more as the draft has unfolded. Brady was a 'safe pick' w/ 6pts per TD. He has a shot to be top scorer in the league again, but likely has a floor around QB5 imo. If Brady's numbers are down due to a re-emphasis on the run, it'll make the Maroney pick likely even better. LenDale should be solid. I would have handcuffed him with Chris Henry, who I like, but Henry went a round or two before I wanted. The RB 3/4 depth should help. Both of these guys could be solid contributors. Maybe this is the year we finally see if Norwood can handle the load? Anything above 200+ carries, and I think this was a steal. I also like Julius as late as I got him. I think he still has plenty to offer, and would love to see him go to another team like HOU or maybe SEA. We'll have to see. WR's were my biggest concern. Holt should contribute most every week. I like Henry's potential, if he can keep the knucklehead factor in check this year, he could be solid. I'd be even happier if either he or CJ leave Cincy, which are possibilities. I picked up Stallworth assuming he'd be gone from NE. Honestly, I need him to be a solid contributor, so where he lands will probably be critical to the success of my WR core. Steve Smith & James Jones add some nice young WR talent that have considerable upside. They will likely each only contribute a handfull of weeks unless they break out this year. Heap at TE was a steal in my opinion. He played in 16 games in each of 2005 & 2006 and was the #2 and #4 scoring TE in this format. Here is to hoping he can stay reasonably healthy and that Cam is able to get this offense back in shape. QB is ceratinly a question for BAL, so that could hinder Heap's value as well.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
NorrisB
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
7.08 Jake Delhomme
8.09 Trent Edwards
1.08 Frank Gore
4.09 Jonathan Stewart
6.09 Rashard Mendenhall
10.09 Chris Henry
2.09 Andre Johnson
3.08 Plaxico Burress
5.08 Javon Walker
9.08 L.J. Smith
11.08 Randy McMichael
8.09 Trent Edwards
1.08 Frank Gore
4.09 Jonathan Stewart
6.09 Rashard Mendenhall
10.09 Chris Henry
2.09 Andre Johnson
3.08 Plaxico Burress
5.08 Javon Walker
9.08 L.J. Smith
11.08 Randy McMichael
FUBAR
Footballguy
I quite like the risk/reward here at RB. Might get burned, or might win the league with those 4. I wouldn't be comfortable with the QBs, but if Delhomme comes back, they could be good. Solid trio at WR - if the risky Walker pick pays off. Overall perhaps too much risk, but could be a contender or out early. No prize for 2nd place, right?
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
QB
1.11 - Peyton Manning, QB2, INDY
RB
2.06 - Edgerrin James, RB16, AZ
3.11 - Darren McFadden, RB21, Rookie
7.11 - Deuce McAllister, RB36, NO
11.11 - Chris Johnson, RB54, Rookie
12.06 - Brandon Jackson, RB59, GB
WR
4.06 - Marvin Harrison, WR22, INDY
5.11 - D.J. Hackett, WR30, SEA
6.06 - Kevin Curtis, WR34, PHI
9.11 - Kevin Walter, WR53, HOU
10.06 - Roydell Williams, WR57, TEN
TE
8.06 - Ben Watson, TE14, NE
PK
DEF
1.11 - Peyton Manning, QB2, INDY
RB
2.06 - Edgerrin James, RB16, AZ
3.11 - Darren McFadden, RB21, Rookie
7.11 - Deuce McAllister, RB36, NO
11.11 - Chris Johnson, RB54, Rookie
12.06 - Brandon Jackson, RB59, GB
WR
4.06 - Marvin Harrison, WR22, INDY
5.11 - D.J. Hackett, WR30, SEA
6.06 - Kevin Curtis, WR34, PHI
9.11 - Kevin Walter, WR53, HOU
10.06 - Roydell Williams, WR57, TEN
TE
8.06 - Ben Watson, TE14, NE
PK
DEF
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Road Warriors
Footballguy
3.13 Carson Palmer, QB, CIN
7.13 Jason Campbell, QB, WAS
1.13 Willie Parker, RB, PIT
4.04 Brandon Jacobs, RB, NYG
10.04 Ray Rice, RB, RUT
11.13 Kenny Irons, RB, CIN
2.04 Larry Fitzgerald, WR, ARI
5.13 Laveraneus Coles, WR NYJ
8.04 Arnaz Battle, WR, SF
9.13 Jerry Porter, WR, OAK
6.04 Owen Daniels, TE, HOU
12.04 PIT DT
7.13 Jason Campbell, QB, WAS
1.13 Willie Parker, RB, PIT
4.04 Brandon Jacobs, RB, NYG
10.04 Ray Rice, RB, RUT
11.13 Kenny Irons, RB, CIN
2.04 Larry Fitzgerald, WR, ARI
5.13 Laveraneus Coles, WR NYJ
8.04 Arnaz Battle, WR, SF
9.13 Jerry Porter, WR, OAK
6.04 Owen Daniels, TE, HOU
12.04 PIT DT
the_sig
Footballguy
1.06 Tom Brady, QB, NE
2.11 Laurence Maroney, RB, NE
4.11 LenDale White, RB, TEN
6.11 Jerious Norwood, RB, ATL
9.06 Julius Jones, RB DAL
3.06 Torry Holt, WR, STL
7.06 Chris Henry, WR, CIN
8.11 Donte Stallworth, WR, NE
10.11 Steve Smith, WR, NYG
11.06 James Jones, WR GB
5.06 Todd Heap, TE, BAL
12.11 Eric Johnson, TE, NO
2.11 Laurence Maroney, RB, NE
4.11 LenDale White, RB, TEN
6.11 Jerious Norwood, RB, ATL
9.06 Julius Jones, RB DAL
3.06 Torry Holt, WR, STL
7.06 Chris Henry, WR, CIN
8.11 Donte Stallworth, WR, NE
10.11 Steve Smith, WR, NYG
11.06 James Jones, WR GB
5.06 Todd Heap, TE, BAL
12.11 Eric Johnson, TE, NO
Norseman
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
Tony Romo, QB4, DAL
Alex Smith, QB28, SF
Clinton Portis, RB9. WASH
Cedric Benson, RB35, CHI
Justin Fargas, RB38, OAK
Jamaal Charles RB 53, ROOK
Roddy White, WR23, ATL
Santana Moss, WR29, WAS
Derrick Mason, WR35, BAL
Ron Curry, WR52 OAK
Justin Gage, WR68, TEN
Antonio Gates, TE1, SD
Alex Smith, QB28, SF
Clinton Portis, RB9. WASH
Cedric Benson, RB35, CHI
Justin Fargas, RB38, OAK
Jamaal Charles RB 53, ROOK
Roddy White, WR23, ATL
Santana Moss, WR29, WAS
Derrick Mason, WR35, BAL
Ron Curry, WR52 OAK
Justin Gage, WR68, TEN
Antonio Gates, TE1, SD
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
the_sig
Footballguy
jeter23
Footballguy
NorrisB
Footballguy
When you get a starting QB like Shaun Hill that late in a Mike Martz system you have to be a little gitty about it. As of now MoMo is the starting RB in SEA, so is Watson. #### Im loaded
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Yes, that 3rd QB and 5th RB will really help you when your WRs are on a bye.When you get a starting QB like Shaun Hill that late in a Mike Martz system you have to be a little gitty about it. As of now MoMo is the starting RB in SEA, so is Watson. #### Im loaded
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I'm actually a lot more worried about my WRs. I should be ok if Walker is ready to go, but even then WR bye weeks and whiffs look like they'll hurt. In hindsight grabbing Henry in the 10th may not have been wise - I'm pretty sure that Mendenhall and Stewart will be just find tag teaming RB2. The Jackson pick looks nutty in the 13th, but I like his chances this year and was one of two late guys I didn't want to miss out on.QB could also be weak, but there's no reason to think Delhomme won't be back at this point.
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Jake D is one of my solid QB2 candidates in redraft. He could easily be under the radar, and if they get better at WR2, King improves more, and DeW is the starter he could be quite productive.I just traded for him in a Dynasty league as his value is pretty low.
Fiddles
Footballguy
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
When you get a starting QB like Shaun Hill that late in a Mike Martz system you have to be a little gitty about it. As of now MoMo is the starting RB in SEA, so is Watson. #### Im loaded
el super gringo
Footballguy
man don't laugh at Norrisdamus.
NorrisB
Footballguy
Hill was just too good to pass up there.Jeff Pasquino said:Yes, that 3rd QB and 5th RB will really help you when your WRs are on a bye.NorrisB said:When you get a starting QB like Shaun Hill that late in a Mike Martz system you have to be a little gitty about it. As of now MoMo is the starting RB in SEA, so is Watson. #### Im loaded
FUBAR
Footballguy
NorrisB said:
but nice try. Hill is not the QB Martz needs. Smith hasn't proven himself to be either, but I'm 100% confident that Smith starts if healthy.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Shaun Hill is pretty good - I wouldn't disregard him completely - at all.NorrisB said:
