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wtf why does Tvon Branch get awarded with the int! (1 Viewer)

I said the same thing.

It should be an INT by Mitchell OR a forced fumble by Branch with a recover by Mitchell. That is something that has to be changed when the stats are corrected Thursday.

 
johnnyboy8102 said:
I said the same thing. It should be an INT by Mitchell OR a forced fumble by Branch with a recover by Mitchell. That is something that has to be changed when the stats are corrected Thursday.
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Wait dont they correct it before hand if its a visible mistake so theres no chance for it to be corrected soon
 
Just like Urlacher's sack, was really Idonije's. I doubt that gets changed when stat corrections come out, so I wouldn't count my chickens with Branch's INT.

 
GridironMenace said:
Just like Urlacher's sack, was really Idonije's. I doubt that gets changed when stat corrections come out, so I wouldn't count my chickens with Branch's INT.
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I disagree on Urlacher's sack. At worst it is a half for both Urlacher and Idonije, but realistically it was Urlachers initial hit that sent Brady to the ground. Idonije was just the gravy on that sack.
 
GridironMenace said:
Just like Urlacher's sack, was really Idonije's. I doubt that gets changed when stat corrections come out, so I wouldn't count my chickens with Branch's INT.
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I hope both get changed lol. I have owned Idonije all season and Urlacher has taken 1.5 sacks and a ff away from him because he was late to a play and got credited with it. I have seen it done multiple ways:

*Yesterday, the sack of Brady was credited to Idonije. After the replay it was switched to Urlacher. Based on the replay I provided in my other link, what could they have possibly seen to change it to Urlacher's sack?

*I saw the same exact play as above switched to 0.5 for Urlacher during the Thursday stat corrections.

Now here is the clip of the Branch play:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...s-Thomas-pocket

There is NO WAY that is an INT for Branch it is either a FF for Branch and FR for Mitchell OR a PD for Branch and an INT for Mitchell.

I think it should be a FF/FR because Thomas had possession of the ball and Branch stripped it. Once there is possession of the ball there cannot be an interception anymore.

 
SkyRattlers said:
GridironMenace said:
Just like Urlacher's sack, was really Idonije's. I doubt that gets changed when stat corrections come out, so I wouldn't count my chickens with Branch's INT.
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I disagree on Urlacher's sack. At worst it is a half for both Urlacher and Idonije, but realistically it was Urlachers initial hit that sent Brady to the ground. Idonije was just the gravy on that sack.
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I disagree, but it's not worth arguing about it. However, FWIW, the sack was originally given to Idonije. It was changed to Urlacher 5 minutes later.
 
SkyRattlers said:
GridironMenace said:
Just like Urlacher's sack, was really Idonije's. I doubt that gets changed when stat corrections come out, so I wouldn't count my chickens with Branch's INT.
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I disagree on Urlacher's sack. At worst it is a half for both Urlacher and Idonije, but realistically it was Urlachers initial hit that sent Brady to the ground. Idonije was just the gravy on that sack.
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Watch it again:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0900...-sack-2-yd-loss

Brady went down when I saw the pocket collapsing. Idonije was the one that fell on him and wrapped him up. Urlacher came late and barely touched him while falling off to the side.

2 of Urlacher's 4 sacks have been sketchy at best. The 0.5 vs Carolina, the 0.5 vs Detroit last week, and the one yesterday.

It seems like if the play involves him that the stat correctors, on Thursdays, seem to go out of their way to give it to him. The Carolina 1/2 sack, a FR vs. Buffalo that was given to someone else, a FF last week that Idonije initially got credit for.......

It just seems weird lol....Maybe, I just notice it a lot as a Idonije owner because it has effected me 3 times!

 
Nice video JohnnyBoy. Stats are counted by people who will give credit for a tackle/sack/assist etc... to the big name players more often than not, due to reputation. It is an inexact science and one of the reasons IDP scoring is inaccurate. Derrick Johnson was 8-1-0 (or something like that yesterday), but I swear he had 12 solos...

 
GridironMenace said:
Nice video JohnnyBoy. Stats are counted by people who will give credit for a tackle/sack/assist etc... to the big name players more often than not, due to reputation. It is an inexact science and one of the reasons IDP scoring is inaccurate. Derrick Johnson was 8-1-0 (or something like that yesterday), but I swear he had 12 solos...
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Thanks. *Here is Urlacher's 0.5 sack from last week vs. Detroit. It was 1st credited for DJ Moore then minutes later was split. DJ Moore got to Stanton 1st and is the reason his "progression" stops and why he is going to the ground. Urlacher comes in low as Stanton is going down and steals a 0.5 sack from Moore.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0900...-sack-9-yd-loss

*Finally, here is the Week 5 play against Caroline (Clausen) that I mentioned earlier. Clausen scrambles and gives himself up for no gain. Clearly Idonije comes in 1st and jumps on him. Urlacher comes in late (much like the Brady play yesterday) and hardly touches the QB. This play was originally given completely to Idonije but was split on the Thursday stat corrections. If you look at the play description it even gives full credit to Idonije.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0900...-sack-0-yd-loss

So someone saying Urlacher has 4 sacks is very misleading considering 2 of them have been attained like this.

Patrick Willis on the other hand has 5 LEGIT sacks this season.

I am really starting to question have IDP worth so much in my money league when stuff like this happens.

 
I doubt the branch play will be changed because it was a play that was challenged and reversed. To me it looks like it should have been a catch by Thomas, a tackle + ff by Branch and a fr for Mitchell.

 
The Man With No Name said:
I doubt the branch play will be changed because it was a play that was challenged and reversed. To me it looks like it should have been a catch by Thomas, a tackle + ff by Branch and a fr for Mitchell.
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This play is almost as bad as the James Harrison "Interception" against Miami that clearly hit the ground.
 
johnnyboy8102 said:
SkyRattlers said:
GridironMenace said:
Just like Urlacher's sack, was really Idonije's. I doubt that gets changed when stat corrections come out, so I wouldn't count my chickens with Branch's INT.
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I disagree on Urlacher's sack. At worst it is a half for both Urlacher and Idonije, but realistically it was Urlachers initial hit that sent Brady to the ground. Idonije was just the gravy on that sack.
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Watch it again:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0900...-sack-2-yd-loss

Brady went down when I saw the pocket collapsing. Idonije was the one that fell on him and wrapped him up. Urlacher came late and barely touched him while falling off to the side.

2 of Urlacher's 4 sacks have been sketchy at best. The 0.5 vs Carolina, the 0.5 vs Detroit last week, and the one yesterday.

It seems like if the play involves him that the stat correctors, on Thursdays, seem to go out of their way to give it to him. The Carolina 1/2 sack, a FR vs. Buffalo that was given to someone else, a FF last week that Idonije initially got credit for.......

It just seems weird lol....Maybe, I just notice it a lot as a Idonije owner because it has effected me 3 times!
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It's hard to do using your link, but if you pause the video and move it using the bar instead you can kinda see a frame by frame shot of the sack. Urlacher makes first contact. While Idonije looks like he's going for a reach-around. :thumbup: ETA: There is a frame at the 33 second mark that show pretty clearly that Urlacher and Brady have collided and Idonije is a bodywidth away still.

 
The Branch "interception" is going to determine the outcome of a game in my main league. When will we know for sure whether it gets reversed?

 
Even though it should be changed, I doubt it will be.

I agree it looked like a FF for Branch and a FR for Mitchell, but they announced on the field after the review that the receiver didn't have control of the ball and it was an interception. Luckily my opponent had Branch on his bench - this would have decided the match if he was starting.

 
RushHour said:
Even though it should be changed, I doubt it will be. I agree it looked like a FF for Branch and a FR for Mitchell, but they announced on the field after the review that the receiver didn't have control of the ball and it was an interception. Luckily my opponent had Branch on his bench - this would have decided the match if he was starting.
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Even if they leave it as an interception, which I agree they will, it wasn't Branch that caught the ball.
 
I don't know much about stat changes, but this one seems like it pretty much has to get fixed by the league.

 
tonka said:
I don't know much about stat changes, but this one seems like it pretty much has to get fixed by the league.
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The league (NFL) doesn't fix or make stat changes. And since the play was challenged and reversed during the game, I don't see it being changed by The Elias Sports Bureau, the official statistician for the NFL.
 
The Man With No Name said:
tonka said:
I don't know much about stat changes, but this one seems like it pretty much has to get fixed by the league.
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The league (NFL) doesn't fix or make stat changes. And since the play was challenged and reversed during the game, I don't see it being changed by The Elias Sports Bureau, the official statistician for the NFL.
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What does the challenge have to do with the price of tea in China? Branch didn't catch the ball, Mitchell did. Elias doesn't have to disagree with the ruling of interception to assign it to the right player.
 
Why would the challenge affect this? It was ruled down by contact on the field. The Raiders challenged and it was changed to an interception.

So we know for sure it was an interception. We know for sure who caught the interception (not Tyvon Branch).

I don't see how this could possibly not be changed.

 
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johnnyboy8102 said:
HMH said:
Didn't see anyone post the Branch video, this one is tough to tell:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...s-Thomas-pocket

Is Branch down by contact? To me , its looks like Mitchell should have a pick or fumble recovery.
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So they are saying Branch had possession and was touched down by Thomas? It seems like a close call.
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No, they never said that. Branch never had possession. The scorekeeper just screwed up.
 
Looks like Yahoo picked up on the error, week 14 stat corrections:

Michael Mitchell Oakland Raiders 1 0 Interceptions 2nd Qtr, 4:16 remaining. Pass intercepted by Mitchell, not Branch

 
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