That is twice as many runs as Fister has given up in the last 50 plus innings. I suppose it is possible, but I am more worried about getting hit by the falling satellite than that happening. You do realize Fister has a better ERA than your ace?I think the Yankees are going to pound Fister tonight. He's not as good as his second-half showed. Hope I'm wrong, but I can't imagine that guy gets away without 6 earned.
Fister's starts since coming to Detroit include four (4!) starts against Cleveland, two against Kansas City, then the offensive murderers' row of Oakland, Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Baltimore. He did have one start against a formidable Texas lineup. Meanwhile, "my ace" was pitching in the AL East that included the offensive juggernauts of Boston, New York and Toronto. In fact, 8 of his last 10 starts came against Texas, Toronto, New York and Boston. I can't believe you would even attempt to compare the two. This is like comparing the SEC to the Big East.That is twice as many runs as Fister has given up in the last 50 plus innings. I suppose it is possible, but I am more worried about getting hit by the falling satellite than that happening. You do realize Fister has a better ERA than your ace?I think the Yankees are going to pound Fister tonight. He's not as good as his second-half showed. Hope I'm wrong, but I can't imagine that guy gets away without 6 earned.
Is this stat right?Meanwhile, "my ace" was pitching in the AL East that included the offensive juggernauts of Boston, New York and Toronto. In fact, 8 of his last 10 starts came against Texas, Toronto, New York and Boston.
You are right, Fister has outpitched CC by a mile. It is a silly comparison. CC last 7 outings have been against TB (8th), Tor (5th), LAA (10th), Tor (5th), Bos (1st), Oak (12th), Min (13th). CC has given up 17 runs.Boston is the only real offensive juggernaut of that bunch, other than that it is a mixed bunch of mediocre and poor offensive teams. Fister schedule was a bit easier, but he only gave up 3 runs during that time. Schedule does not account for doing 5 times better. They are still major league teams he was facing.Fister's starts since coming to Detroit include four (4!) starts against Cleveland, two against Kansas City, then the offensive murderers' row of Oakland, Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Baltimore. He did have one start against a formidable Texas lineup. Meanwhile, "my ace" was pitching in the AL East that included the offensive juggernauts of Boston, New York and Toronto. In fact, 8 of his last 10 starts came against Texas, Toronto, New York and Boston. I can't believe you would even attempt to compare the two. This is like comparing the SEC to the Big East.That is twice as many runs as Fister has given up in the last 50 plus innings. I suppose it is possible, but I am more worried about getting hit by the falling satellite than that happening. You do realize Fister has a better ERA than your ace?I think the Yankees are going to pound Fister tonight. He's not as good as his second-half showed. Hope I'm wrong, but I can't imagine that guy gets away without 6 earned.
No. I listed his last seven starts, and only 3 of those starts were any of those teams.Is this stat right?Meanwhile, "my ace" was pitching in the AL East that included the offensive juggernauts of Boston, New York and Toronto. In fact, 8 of his last 10 starts came against Texas, Toronto, New York and Boston.
What the ####??http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/28474/james-shieldsNo. I listed his last seven starts, and only 3 of those starts were any of those teams.Is this stat right?Meanwhile, "my ace" was pitching in the AL East that included the offensive juggernauts of Boston, New York and Toronto. In fact, 8 of his last 10 starts came against Texas, Toronto, New York and Boston.
Um, I'm a Rays fan dopey.You are right, Fister has outpitched CC by a mile. It is a silly comparison. CC last 7 outings have been against TB (8th), Tor (5th), LAA (10th), Tor (5th), Bos (1st), Oak (12th), Min (13th). CC has given up 17 runs.Boston is the only real offensive juggernaut of that bunch, other than that it is a mixed bunch of mediocre and poor offensive teams. Fister schedule was a bit easier, but he only gave up 3 runs during that time. Schedule does not account for doing 5 times better. They are still major league teams he was facing.Fister's starts since coming to Detroit include four (4!) starts against Cleveland, two against Kansas City, then the offensive murderers' row of Oakland, Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Baltimore. He did have one start against a formidable Texas lineup. Meanwhile, "my ace" was pitching in the AL East that included the offensive juggernauts of Boston, New York and Toronto. In fact, 8 of his last 10 starts came against Texas, Toronto, New York and Boston. I can't believe you would even attempt to compare the two. This is like comparing the SEC to the Big East.That is twice as many runs as Fister has given up in the last 50 plus innings. I suppose it is possible, but I am more worried about getting hit by the falling satellite than that happening. You do realize Fister has a better ERA than your ace?I think the Yankees are going to pound Fister tonight. He's not as good as his second-half showed. Hope I'm wrong, but I can't imagine that guy gets away without 6 earned.
I suppose the peppermint patty icon was suppose to give that away.Um, I'm a Rays fan dopey.You are right, Fister has outpitched CC by a mile. It is a silly comparison. CC last 7 outings have been against TB (8th), Tor (5th), LAA (10th), Tor (5th), Bos (1st), Oak (12th), Min (13th). CC has given up 17 runs.Boston is the only real offensive juggernaut of that bunch, other than that it is a mixed bunch of mediocre and poor offensive teams. Fister schedule was a bit easier, but he only gave up 3 runs during that time. Schedule does not account for doing 5 times better. They are still major league teams he was facing.Fister's starts since coming to Detroit include four (4!) starts against Cleveland, two against Kansas City, then the offensive murderers' row of Oakland, Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Baltimore. He did have one start against a formidable Texas lineup. Meanwhile, "my ace" was pitching in the AL East that included the offensive juggernauts of Boston, New York and Toronto. In fact, 8 of his last 10 starts came against Texas, Toronto, New York and Boston. I can't believe you would even attempt to compare the two. This is like comparing the SEC to the Big East.That is twice as many runs as Fister has given up in the last 50 plus innings. I suppose it is possible, but I am more worried about getting hit by the falling satellite than that happening. You do realize Fister has a better ERA than your ace?I think the Yankees are going to pound Fister tonight. He's not as good as his second-half showed. Hope I'm wrong, but I can't imagine that guy gets away without 6 earned.
No, but the statement "I hope I'm wrong" about Fister getting pounded and the 15-page Rays thread started by me sitting on top of the first page almost all year kinda should've.I suppose the peppermint patty icon was suppose to give that away.Um, I'm a Rays fan dopey.You are right, Fister has outpitched CC by a mile. It is a silly comparison. CC last 7 outings have been against TB (8th), Tor (5th), LAA (10th), Tor (5th), Bos (1st), Oak (12th), Min (13th). CC has given up 17 runs.Boston is the only real offensive juggernaut of that bunch, other than that it is a mixed bunch of mediocre and poor offensive teams. Fister schedule was a bit easier, but he only gave up 3 runs during that time. Schedule does not account for doing 5 times better. They are still major league teams he was facing.Fister's starts since coming to Detroit include four (4!) starts against Cleveland, two against Kansas City, then the offensive murderers' row of Oakland, Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Baltimore. He did have one start against a formidable Texas lineup. Meanwhile, "my ace" was pitching in the AL East that included the offensive juggernauts of Boston, New York and Toronto. In fact, 8 of his last 10 starts came against Texas, Toronto, New York and Boston. I can't believe you would even attempt to compare the two. This is like comparing the SEC to the Big East.That is twice as many runs as Fister has given up in the last 50 plus innings. I suppose it is possible, but I am more worried about getting hit by the falling satellite than that happening. You do realize Fister has a better ERA than your ace?I think the Yankees are going to pound Fister tonight. He's not as good as his second-half showed. Hope I'm wrong, but I can't imagine that guy gets away without 6 earned.
My bad, I should have been tipped off you weren't a Yankee fan, but I don't wonder into the TB thread at all except to congratulate you on making the playoffs.No, but the statement "I hope I'm wrong" about Fister getting pounded and the 15-page Rays thread started by me sitting on top of the first page almost all year kinda should've.
No matter. Good luck to the Tigers.My bad, I should have been tipped off you weren't a Yankee fan, but I don't wonder into the TB thread at all except to congratulate you on making the playoffs.No, but the statement "I hope I'm wrong" about Fister getting pounded and the 15-page Rays thread started by me sitting on top of the first page almost all year kinda should've.
Didn't say he was better, just pitching better lately. Nobody has been pitching better than Fister the last couple of months. So expecting the Yankees to put up six seems a bit odd.doug fister is better than cc sabathia? did all the morons come out of the woodworks for the playoffs?
Yeah, but jawn, jawn, if you can't see that Fistah is piling up digits against the Junior Varsity of MLB, you're lawst. The entire division is under .500, I can't go crazy about that.Fister pitched a decent game this year against the Yanks but they've hit him before. Really its a small sample size, but its certainly not one of projectable dominance. Realistically though, if the Yanks up 3 runs through 6, I'm inclined to sign for that right now. I'm betting Nova throws 6 to take them to Mariano and hopefully rest the pen.Really, perfect world, Nova throws a 7 inning "complete game"Didn't say he was better, just pitching better lately. Nobody has been pitching better than Fister the last couple of months. So expecting the Yankees to put up six seems a bit odd.doug fister is better than cc sabathia? did all the morons come out of the woodworks for the playoffs?
fair enough. cant disagree with thatDidn't say he was better, just pitching better lately. Nobody has been pitching better than Fister the last couple of months. So expecting the Yankees to put up six seems a bit odd.doug fister is better than cc sabathia? did all the morons come out of the woodworks for the playoffs?
been around baseball my entire life so I "get" delays and starters etc, but they threw 18 pitches, how will this mees them up with a full off day.Can someone please unpack for me why a starting pitcher who throws one inning cannot come back the very next day?This completely shukes me.
I heard that they each threw about fifty pitches to stay warm during the rain delay as well.been around baseball my entire life so I "get" delays and starters etc, but they threw 18 pitches, how will this mees them up with a full off day.Can someone please unpack for me why a starting pitcher who throws one inning cannot come back the very next day?This completely shukes me.
Plus warm-up throws.I heard that they each threw about fifty pitches to stay warm during the rain delay as well.been around baseball my entire life so I "get" delays and starters etc, but they threw 18 pitches, how will this mees them up with a full off day.Can someone please unpack for me why a starting pitcher who throws one inning cannot come back the very next day?This completely shukes me.
CC said he threw around 75 pitches between live action, warmups, and staying warm during rain delay.Anyway looks like no rain at time of first pitchI heard that they each threw about fifty pitches to stay warm during the rain delay as well.been around baseball my entire life so I "get" delays and starters etc, but they threw 18 pitches, how will this mees them up with a full off day.Can someone please unpack for me why a starting pitcher who throws one inning cannot come back the very next day?This completely shukes me.
Update?Well, Doug "Better than CC" Fister is off to a great start.
He looked pretty nervous at first. He looks fine now. His stuff sure looks good.Who would have bet Fister could have gotten out of that mess.
same exact thing I said. Worse baserunner Ive ever seen####### PosadaA decade and a half of baseball and he still is an awful baserunner
Yanks ran that relay perfectly. I dont blame them for taking the shotThat was brutal.
Gotcha, makes more sense thenCC said he threw around 75 pitches between live action, warmups, and staying warm during rain delay.Anyway looks like no rain at time of first pitchI heard that they each threw about fifty pitches to stay warm during the rain delay as well.been around baseball my entire life so I "get" delays and starters etc, but they threw 18 pitches, how will this mees them up with a full off day.Can someone please unpack for me why a starting pitcher who throws one inning cannot come back the very next day?This completely shukes me.
Or he saved them a run. Couldn't they rule it a ground rule double if he reached over?That doofus just cost the yanks a run