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You might be a shark if you've got Mikel Leshoure rostered. Those who watch his film (highlights) see the potential of a workhorse back.

He's a big back with moves to spare and is a threat receiving out of the backfield.

Drafted as a complement to Jahvid Best in the 2nd Round, Detroit planned on giving him the ball. I think Detroit favors him over Kevin Smith and he quickly becomes entenched as starter.

I expect Leshoure to be used similar to Matt Forte in Chicago, except Leshoure will get goalline carries.

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You might be a shark if you have Torrey Smith rostered. Smith played the 2012 season without a real offseason. No OTAs, training camp, coach communication, etc.

Despite that he put up a statline of:

841 Yards / 7 Touchdowns

He excelled with Joe Flacco on deep patterns but showed acceleration to take short passes to the house.

This season he has had a proper offseason and has a better grasp of the route tree. He will not be behind Lee Evans and will be in on all 2 wide receiver sets.

That deep ball is special and I think he is far more of a complete receiver than Lee Evans or Bernard Berrian were.

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You might be a shark if you've got Jay Cutler rostered. Those who have watched Cutler play the past few seasons.have seen a player mature.

We saw him throw for season totals of 23 and 27 touchdowns with a bare cupboard at skill positions (Hester, Bennet, Williams, Knox are all servicable at best).

Cutler has requested tall receivers and he got two of them in Jay Cutler and Alshon Jeffery. The new offense is similar to what he ran in Denver where he previously passed for 4,500 yards.

With a true number one receiver,a new offensive scheme, and potential shootouts against Detroit and Green Bay, we could be seeing a career year for Cutler.

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You might be a shark if you've got Reggie Wayne rostered.

75 / 950 / 4

That is what Reggie Wayne posted last year with Dan Orlovsky and Curtis Painter at Quarterback.

Through double coverage he trudged but could not reach 1,000 yards.

Remember when we thought our friend Steve Smith's (Carolina) career had nose dived? Remember when a Rookie Quarterback (Cam Newton) resurrected his career?

Lucky for Reggie Wayne there is a new Sheriff in town in Indianapolis. Andrew Luck has been referred to as the best propsect in years and we can all agree he is better than the combination than Orlovsky and Painter.

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You might be a shark if you've got Darren Mcfadden rostered. The guy is good, period. He has shown potential to be the best running back in the league.

Stop predicting injuries. This guy has the talent to be a top producer like LT was for.years.

If he plays all 16 games, you will win many of your games.

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You might be a shark if you've got David Wilson rostered. Everyone cringes at this situation and the timeshare, fearing a Deangelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart situation.

But people forget that both Stewart and Williams were 1st Round selections. I liken this situation to Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor a few years back.

Wilson will flash big play potential that the Giants will have no choice but to give him carries.

Bradshaw was a 7th Round pick. Giants brass just took Wilson in the first. The potential of that offense with Wilson on the field is huge.

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You might be a shark if you have Aaron Rodgers rostered. You didn't get cute. You understand that Rodgers will score more points than any other player week in, week out.

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You might be a shark if you've got Justin Blackmon rostered. Quickly installed into the first team offense, this is a player that will see a lot of targets.

Blaine Gabbert has shown some life in preseason and Blackmon is a player that can manufacture his own yards.

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You might be a shark if you've got Demaryius Thomas rostered. Peyton Manning is Peyton Manning, trust your gut, eyeballs.

Peyton Manning is great and Demaryius Thomas has upside rivaled only by Calvin Johnson.

Use your head.

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You might be a shark if you've got Aaron Hernandez rostered.

79 / 910 / 7 in 14 games.

Way to be overshadowed by Gronkowski. He got paid this offseason and could easily produce 90+ catches, 1,200 yards, 10 touchdowns.

Maybe Gronkowski will learn to share his touchdown total?

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You might be a shark if you have Rashard Mendenhall rostered. This is the same guy people were taking in the 1st Round last year.

Jonathan This and Isaac Whoever, Mendenhall is the most talented back on that roster and Todd Haley will feed him the ball.

Contract year!

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The entire Tennessee Offense. Locker, Johnson, Britt (one game suspension), Cook, and Wright in that order.

They all have talent and will produce big plays. Look what Tebow and Mcgahee accomplished last year.

Locker has the keys to a Ferari.

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You might be a shark if you have Eddie Royal rostered. Philip Rivers is a very good Quarterback, he throws a lot.

Antonio Gates opens up a lot of underneath routes. Norv Turner has gushed about Royal all off season.

Reminds me of Wes Welker and how he was misused in Miami with their terrible QBs.

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Well, are you a shark?

 
It seems like you went through your roster, & are a titan fan. Lol. A team like that could just as easily flop. I have a few of those guys, but we'll see.

 
Wilson is getting so much hype that I'm beginning to worry if he's really going to be all that right out of the chute. How is his pass blocking because he'll never see the field if he going to get Eli killed on passing downs.

 
'Eminence said:
You might be a shark if you've got Demaryius Thomas rostered. Peyton Manning is Peyton Manning, trust your gut, eyeballs.Peyton Manning is great and Demaryius Thomas has upside rivaled only by Calvin Johnson.Use your head.
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You might be a shark if you realize Peyton Manning has never been an exceptional QB outdoors.If you realize he's never been an exceptional QB in the cold.If you realize that those situations will now account for 15 of his 16 games...if he plays that many.If you realize those things about his performance were true when he was in his prime, and he's now going on 37.If you realize he's lost velocity on his throws.If you realize he's flat out telling us he can't throw to his right.If you realize he's recovering from multiple major neck surgeries.If you realize that as a guy with a neck you wouldn't wish upon your enemies, he's playing a game where steroid-built 300 lb men can't wait to drive the crowns of their football helmets into his earhole.If you realize he'll be playing this game behind a line that was among the league's worst in sacks allowed, with far more mobile QB's than Manning.If you realize that even if his quicker release limits those numbers, the alarming amount of defenders in the backfield means he's still going to get clobbered.If you realize that this very strongly suggests he'll be lucky to survive till midseason as the starting QB.
 
I like your reasoning on quite a few of those.

Im all in on DMC.

Agreed on Cutler. He can be had at the price of a b/u, with a ceiling of a QB1. With Marshall and Bush there, and Tice as the O coordinator, I'm optimistic. In fact, I took Forte, Marshall, and Cutler (b/u) in a ten teamer. Couldnt pass em up where i got em.

Like Wayne and T.Smith.

Not sold on Leshoure. They are gonna throw a ton again. It's Stafford, Megatron, Pettigrew, Titus to target in FF, imo. I guess a flier on Leshoure could pan out.

Avoided the Pitt backfield.

Like Decker more the Thomas, but missed him in both drafts, due to guys reaching. Everyone and their gramdma seems to be high on the Broncos with Peyton. The value has fallen off lately.

Snagged Blackmon, as he looks to Gabberts guys so far. And Gabbert has looked much better.

 
'Zeff said:
'Eminence said:
You might be a shark if you've got Demaryius Thomas rostered. Peyton Manning is Peyton Manning, trust your gut, eyeballs.Peyton Manning is great and Demaryius Thomas has upside rivaled only by Calvin Johnson.Use your head.
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You might be a shark if you realize Peyton Manning has never been an exceptional QB outdoors.If you realize he's never been an exceptional QB in the cold.If you realize that those situations will now account for 15 of his 16 games...if he plays that many.If you realize those things about his performance were true when he was in his prime, and he's now going on 37.If you realize he's lost velocity on his throws.If you realize he's flat out telling us he can't throw to his right.If you realize he's recovering from multiple major neck surgeries.If you realize that as a guy with a neck you wouldn't wish upon your enemies, he's playing a game where steroid-built 300 lb men can't wait to drive the crowns of their football helmets into his earhole.If you realize he'll be playing this game behind a line that was among the league's worst in sacks allowed, with far more mobile QB's than Manning.If you realize that even if his quicker release limits those numbers, the alarming amount of defenders in the backfield means he's still going to get clobbered.If you realize that this very strongly suggests he'll be lucky to survive till midseason as the starting QB.
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when it comes to these things I usually trust my eyes (and Cecil Lamney's first-hand reports), and after watching Peyton shred the top ranked 49'ers D in the 3rd preseason game (the one that actually means anything), I must respectfully disagree with this assessment. I personally think Peyton is a top 7-8 QB this year, and I would not hesitate to take him before Rivers, Romo and Cutler.
 
'lazyike said:
I had Mendenhall rostered last year. Does that make me a Shark? I didn't make the playoffs.
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Having Mendenhall rostered this year means he is probably your RB 3 or 4. Last year he was probably your RB 1 or 2. So no, this thread is about this season. I am not sure where your confusion came from, this is a thread for 2012.
 
Nice list! I agree with most of them.

Some I disagree with:

1. Darren McFadden

Sure he's talented, but do you really want to trust your 1st round pick with a guy who has never once played a full NFL season? Classic "you can't win your league in the first round, but you can lose it" pick. I'd roll the dice on this guy if I picked up a solid RB in the first and he slid to me in the 2nd, but otherwise I'm staying away.

2. Rashad Mendenhall

I guess if you have a lot of bench spots in your league he could be worth a stash, but he didn't look that great even before the knee injury last year and he's not supposed to be back until week 5 or 6 anyways. Very limited upside here IMO.

3. Reggie Wayne

I'll say this is only a partial disagreement because I do like Wayne and I agree Luck is an upgrade from the hot garbage they trotted out at QB last year, but I don't love the Steve Smith comparison. Wayne has looked a step slow to me, whereas Smith has always looked good individually. Luck may be better than the guys they had last year but it's a lot to think he's going to have the kind of rookie season Newton did, that was one of the best rookie seasons from a QB in recent memory.

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Here's some I might add to the list:

1. Roddy White

Consistent, reliable production; that's what White gives you year in and year out. He may not be spectacular, but consistency week to week is extremely valuable in H2H leagues. With all the hype around Julio Jones, Roddy is sliding into the 3rd round of drafts. The Falcons new pass-oriented attack should benefit everyone, including White, who has been Matt Ryan's go-to receiver the past few years. Pick this guy up and take a risk on some high upside players later in the draft.

2. Hakeem Nicks

I think the foot injury and the emergence of Victor Cruz have scared people off of Nicks. Health is always going to be a question with him, but it looks like he's going to be ready for Week 1. Even if Cruz takes some targets from Nicks, I think his presence helps overall as teams can no longer make Nicks the focal point of their pass defense. He's still a go-to target in the red zone as well. If you can snag this guy as your WR2 you're doing pretty well.

3. Rashad Jennings

This was an even bigger shark play a couple weeks ago, but I still like it. There's gotta be bad blood between MJD and Jags ownership at this point, so Jennings is going to be given every chance to succeed. He's always had potential and this could be the opportunity he needs. IF this guy plays well early and MJD can't get his contact situation resolved, there's a chance the Jags ship MJD out of town which would make Jennings a top 15 RB.

4. Tony Romo

Yeah I get it, everyone hates this guy. Which is precisely why I targeted him in drafts where I waited to get a QB. His WR corps is in shambles right now and they may run more with Murray, all reasons people are staying away from him. However, I'd be willing to bet that come game time we'll still see the same old Tony Romo we always have, slinging the ball around and making plays. He may not give you top 5 QB production, but if you can build a solid team around this guy he'll give you enough points to win a lot of match ups.

 
Actually agree with most of the OP's comments. I don't have a single one of those players rostered on either of my teams, but not for lack of trying. Just wouldn't reach.

The one I vehemently disagree with is Mendenhall. It ain't him. That line is horrid. Though the OC change could help. Has there been a team more in the history of the NFL that goes 3rd and 1 from the shotgun than the Steelers? That just says you know you can't pick up a yard. The Pittsburgh O-line has been so bad that I avoided any RB's and Big Ben. Painful for them - and just not fun to watch.

 
I appreciate the effort and analysis and there's much I agree with, but I'm not sure I get the usefulness of the thread....

I mean, Jay Cutler is going to be rostered in every league. I own him in my re-draft league. But without some sort of ADP info, its kind of worthless to say its a good move to have him on your roster....You like him at his ADP as a backup in a QBBC? You like him as one of the top 10 QBs off the board ahead or Peyton or Romo as an every week starter? Huge difference...

Same with guys like Aaron Rodgers. I see him go #1 overall and think its a bad move. Middle of the 1st? Okay, now I'm buying. But how about middle of the 1st when another guy on your list, Darren McFadden, is still available? Which one you choosing?

As for whether I generally like some of these guys at their ADP...I do think Wayne is a bargain, but he's been rising in drafts and isn't as much of a value at this point. I think I'd prefer Austin Collie super late in the draft as opposed to Wayne in the 6th or 7th round. Same with Torrey Smith, who has moved up into the 6th round most recent drafts. I still like him there and think he'll have a good year, but not all that much more than the other nice WRs available at that point. I think his ADP has risen to the correct point in the draft.

I'm not really buying in on Demaryius Thomas. I'd prefer Decker and when you also factor in Thomas' injury risk, I prefer the other WRs in his ADP range. That being said, he does seem to be falling now and may be a decent value depending on how far he falls. His early 3rd/4th round ADP from a month ago was a mistake. Also don't buy into Mendenhall. At best, he ends up in a RBBC in 6 weeks. I just don't see many realistic scenarios (in PPR) that I'd be comfortable inserting him into my starting lineup at any point this season.

 
'The_Wolfman said:
Nice list! I agree with most of them.

Some I disagree with:

1. Darren McFadden

Sure he's talented, but do you really want to trust your 1st round pick with a guy who has never once played a full NFL season? Classic "you can't win your league in the first round, but you can lose it" pick. I'd roll the dice on this guy if I picked up a solid RB in the first and he slid to me in the 2nd, but otherwise I'm staying away.

2. Rashad Mendenhall

I guess if you have a lot of bench spots in your league he could be worth a stash, but he didn't look that great even before the knee injury last year and he's not supposed to be back until week 5 or 6 anyways. Very limited upside here IMO.

3. Reggie Wayne

I'll say this is only a partial disagreement because I do like Wayne and I agree Luck is an upgrade from the hot garbage they trotted out at QB last year, but I don't love the Steve Smith comparison. Wayne has looked a step slow to me, whereas Smith has always looked good individually. Luck may be better than the guys they had last year but it's a lot to think he's going to have the kind of rookie season Newton did, that was one of the best rookie seasons from a QB in recent memory.

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Here's some I might add to the list:

1. Roddy White

Consistent, reliable production; that's what White gives you year in and year out. He may not be spectacular, but consistency week to week is extremely valuable in H2H leagues. With all the hype around Julio Jones, Roddy is sliding into the 3rd round of drafts. The Falcons new pass-oriented attack should benefit everyone, including White, who has been Matt Ryan's go-to receiver the past few years. Pick this guy up and take a risk on some high upside players later in the draft.

2. Hakeem Nicks

I think the foot injury and the emergence of Victor Cruz have scared people off of Nicks. Health is always going to be a question with him, but it looks like he's going to be ready for Week 1. Even if Cruz takes some targets from Nicks, I think his presence helps overall as teams can no longer make Nicks the focal point of their pass defense. He's still a go-to target in the red zone as well. If you can snag this guy as your WR2 you're doing pretty well.

3. Rashad Jennings

This was an even bigger shark play a couple weeks ago, but I still like it. There's gotta be bad blood between MJD and Jags ownership at this point, so Jennings is going to be given every chance to succeed. He's always had potential and this could be the opportunity he needs. IF this guy plays well early and MJD can't get his contact situation resolved, there's a chance the Jags ship MJD out of town which would make Jennings a top 15 RB.

4. Tony Romo

Yeah I get it, everyone hates this guy. Which is precisely why I targeted him in drafts where I waited to get a QB. His WR corps is in shambles right now and they may run more with Murray, all reasons people are staying away from him. However, I'd be willing to bet that come game time we'll still see the same old Tony Romo we always have, slinging the ball around and making plays. He may not give you top 5 QB production, but if you can build a solid team around this guy he'll give you enough points to win a lot of match ups.
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I dont hate him. And I think you're right. He's being overlooked, and he has an outside shot at top 5. He almost a lock for top 10, barring injury. His receiving corp is less in shambles than most believe. Witten will be back soon. Although it may take him time to get into football shape. The biggest question is Austin's Hammy.Oh yea, and the O-line. Good thing Romo throws well on the run.

People seem to think the Cowboys are going to run run run this season. I dont know. Red Jesus likes to throw and throw some more. The Cowboys have been horrible on short yardage and red zone running. Fades to Dez......

 
Not sure if it means anyone is a shark, but humorous happening the other day.

I was at work talking with a league mate about the Texans and possible roster cuts. Another guy, not in the league, walks up. Overhearing our conversation, he asks how many players are on an NFL roster.

"53", we both reply in near unison. And then my league mate pauses and looks at me and starts laughing.

"What?" I asked him.

"I just realized our fantasy teams have more players on their rosters than NFL teams do," he said, referring to our 55 man rosters.

I admit, I felt a stirring of pride at that moment. :nerd:

 
'Eminence said:
Not too bad... only 2 or 3 bad calls here. Got a lot of value picks correct.
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I think that's being extremely generous - curious which of these you believe are the only 2 or 3 bad calls:
'Eminence said:
Shark MovesYou might be a shark if you've got Mikel Leshoure rostered. You might be a shark if you have Torrey Smith rostered. You might be a shark if you've got Jay Cutler rostered. You might be a shark if you've got Reggie Wayne rostered.You might be a shark if you've got Darren Mcfadden rostered. You might be a shark if you've got David Wilson rostered. You might be a shark if you have Aaron Rodgers rostered. You might be a shark if you've got Justin Blackmon rostered. You might be a shark if you've got Demaryius Thomas rostered. You might be a shark if you've got Aaron Hernandez rostered.You might be a shark if you have Rashard Mendenhall rostered. The entire Tennessee Offense. Locker, Johnson, Britt (one game suspension), Cook, and Wright in that order.You might be a shark if you have Eddie Royal rostered.
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'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
'Eminence said:
Not too bad... only 2 or 3 bad calls here. Got a lot of value picks correct.
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I think that's being extremely generous - curious which of these you believe are the only 2 or 3 bad calls:
'Eminence said:
Shark Moves

You might be a shark if you've got Mikel Leshoure rostered. He's only played two games so far, one good, one not good, so let's not get too excited. But you get credit for correctly pointing out that he would supplant Kevin Smith as soon as he came back.

You might be a shark if you have Torrey Smith rostered. A bit boom-or-bust - he's had two very good weeks and three not so good. But in terms of his season totals, he's clearly outperformed his ADP so you get credit for this one.

You might be a shark if you've got Jay Cutler rostered. Three good starts and two dreadful, team-killing starts. He's QB19 right now and you could've done much better around his ADP. Calling this a miss.

You might be a shark if you've got Reggie Wayne rostered. Great call.

You might be a shark if you've got Darren Mcfadden rostered. Two good weeks, two bad weeks. Not what you want out of a first-round RB. Calling this a miss.

You might be a shark if you've got David Wilson rostered. Miss

You might be a shark if you have Aaron Rodgers rostered. Three good weeks, two stinkers. Again, at his first-round price you need him to be a stud every week (which I believe was your justification for this call). Miss.

You might be a shark if you've got Justin Blackmon rostered. Miss.

You might be a shark if you've got Demaryius Thomas rostered. Good call.

You might be a shark if you've got Aaron Hernandez rostered. You can't predict injury, so it's hard to say this is a "bad" call. But you also couldn't call this a good call at this point, either. Meh.

You might be a shark if you have Rashard Mendenhall rostered. Too early to say definitively, but he certainly did well in his first week back.

The entire Tennessee Offense. Locker, Johnson, Britt (one game suspension), Cook, and Wright in that order. Gonna have to call this one mostly a miss, if only because you got the order backwards. Cook and Wright have been marginally useful.

You might be a shark if you have Eddie Royal rostered. He probably didn't cost you much, but he hasn't done much, either. Miss.
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Looks more like 7 or 8 than 2 or 3. :shrug:
 
Some good calls in there, but I had to :lmao: at this...

'Eminence said:
You might be a shark if you've got Darren Mcfadden rostered. The guy is good, period. He has shown potential to be the best running back in the league.

There's 10 games left. Not a believer in Oakland but my eyeballs tell me McFadden is still the best runningback in the league. Go ahead and call this one a miss if you'd like. I think the jury is still out.
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Never was and isn't anywhere close. Chicken Legs is worthless without a huge crease. All speed. No power. No moves. BUUUUST.

:banned:

 
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'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
:lmao: The denial is strong with this one. But it seems you felt like bumping a bunch of your own threads this morning, so have fun.
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Before the season starts I call my shots, a few appear they may unfold this year, a few spot on, and one or two that are just plain off. I would suggest that anyone who read my thread got great value:Mikel LeshoureReggie WayneTorrey SmithDemaryius ThomasRashard Mendenhall.I don't think the likes of Eddie Royal, David Wilson, or Justin Blackmon are crippling any teams out there. Hell, my predictions are better than Otis', LHUCKS', or any other people I see on here.If drafting McFadden hurt your team, good thing I suggested you to draft Leshoure and Mendenhall so you had a direct backup if he continues to slack. You now have the ability to trade him, keep strength at your RB position, and upgrade somewhere else.Again, there's still 10 weeks to go. Some of these misses may become hits and some of these hits become misses.Let's say David Wilson performs next year? Or even Cutler / Locker in their Offenses? Do I get less credit for predicting it a year early?EDIT: I bump my threads to gain some credibility, put myself on the line a little bit. If anything, the discussion my threads bring helps me become a better Fantasy Football player in the future.
 
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