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Your opinion on the religion of Islam (1 Viewer)
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SierraKiloBravo
Footballguy
Yeah. This thread will end well.
Chargers86
Footballguy
Ignorant %&%&%
timschochet
Footballguy
It's a very interesting question to me. I write this as an atheist with a historical Jewish perspective. If we were living in the dark ages or at anytime before 1500, I would probably want to live in a Muslim country. Those were the days when Islam represented the height of civilization- they kept and studied Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, and was a source of learning and intellectual freedom while the Christian world wallowed in dirt and disease. Also, Jews as a general rule were treated far better by Muslims, though they were not equal.
Now all of that has completely changed. I can state objectively without the slightest doubt that in our current society, Christianity is a much more moral religion than is Islam. Modern Christianity promotes freedom, and intellectualism. I don't agree much with fundamentalist or very religious Christians, but those who try to make an analogy between these people and most Muslims in the world have no clue what they're talking about. Islam is restrictive and represssive, and it is a fact that there is no country on this Earth that has a majority of Muslims that most Americans would consider a decent place to live.
There are many reasons for what I have written and very few have to do with the Bible or the Qu'run. It's a long story as to how the Muslim world, so advanced 500 years ago, became as backward as it is now. War, desolation, and the lack of a Martin Luther like reformer are all key elements. But it is what it is. I do not have a favorable view of Islam today.
One thing though: I don't like how you phrased your question. I don't regard Islam as the key element behind 9/11.
Now all of that has completely changed. I can state objectively without the slightest doubt that in our current society, Christianity is a much more moral religion than is Islam. Modern Christianity promotes freedom, and intellectualism. I don't agree much with fundamentalist or very religious Christians, but those who try to make an analogy between these people and most Muslims in the world have no clue what they're talking about. Islam is restrictive and represssive, and it is a fact that there is no country on this Earth that has a majority of Muslims that most Americans would consider a decent place to live.
There are many reasons for what I have written and very few have to do with the Bible or the Qu'run. It's a long story as to how the Muslim world, so advanced 500 years ago, became as backward as it is now. War, desolation, and the lack of a Martin Luther like reformer are all key elements. But it is what it is. I do not have a favorable view of Islam today.
One thing though: I don't like how you phrased your question. I don't regard Islam as the key element behind 9/11.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Yep.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Null Vote
- need an "indifferent" option just as you would need an "indifferent" option for any "Your opinion on the religion of XYZ".
- need an "indifferent" option just as you would need an "indifferent" option for any "Your opinion on the religion of XYZ".
sjacksonfan
Footballguy
As wacky as the rest of them.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
The % of Muslims I've met that pissed me off is about the same as I've met from other religions (well, except the Harri Krishnas, they piss me off a lot).
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Is there anything lower than Highly Unfavorable?
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
There isn't one religion that I have a favorable opinion of.
17seconds
root of all aliai
How is it better?
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I voted highly favorable because a stupid poll deserves a stupid answer.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Like every other "legitimate religion" (Yes, i realize how open to interpretation this is) its good at its core. Most of the teachings of Islam are good and morally defensible. But like every other religion, there are radical morons who pervert those teachings in order to serve their own ignorant and violent agenda.
The Big Guy
Fear the Blitz
I agree with this sentiment, but I tend to think that there are more radicals that are willing to take to action in Islam then in all of the other religions and their actions as radicals involve violence, whereas a group like the born-agains (who I would consider to be the more radical Christian sect) all they do is ring a few door bells and recruit people. Plus there are many Islamic leaders who teach and preach hatred to their mostly uneducated masses, which also leads to more violence and acts of revenge for the last 1000 years of random injustices someone has suffered somewhere.
Scotch Rocks
Footballguy
Dictionary sent.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Muslim radicals have gotten more publicity in the last 8 years (and rightfully so) but 9/11 aside, Christian radicals have been significantly more hurtful throughout history. While Christian radicals here in America dont tend to be violent, their closed-mindedness bible-thumping conservatism makes headlines and headaches as well. (although obviously on a very diferent level)Obviously I'm not defending radical muslims, but at least i can see their point. The fact of the matter is that their home land IS being invaded by people of other religions. Their very way of life is being threatened (Again, I DO NOT agree with their way of life). In America, radical Christians are free to live their life pretty much however they want. Nobody's invading their home to stop them. However, they still manage to stirr up trouble and make headlines by trying to push their beliefs and lifestyle on others. (pro-life, for example)And for the record, I was raised Roman catholic and have absolutely no political leanings. (quite frankly, i dont care).
The Commish
Footballguy
Where is the "indifferent" option? And what does "eight years later" have to do with it?
The other thing with muslims is that they have managed to get entire countries to themselves where they can flourish and not be influenced dramatically but other influences. Other influences tend to temper radicalism....now however they are in a situation where they finally feel like their beliefs are being challenged and much like most humans when their beliefs are challenged they actually are becoming more radical in their ideology to protect their ego and what they believe to be their identity...
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ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
SKribbles
Footballguy
As far as I know, they don't pick and choose what they believe in.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
They are talking about the religions, not the people practicing them.
SKribbles
Footballguy
Don't the practitioners make it what it is?
whitem0nkey
Footballguy
Arizona Ron
Footballguy
Could care less option down?
HellToupee
Footballguy
no cleavage under the savage Sharia Law
The Commish
Footballguy
Balance
Footballguy
of course the definition of any religion depends on the individual you are asking.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Allahu Akbar.
The Big Guy
Fear the Blitz
I am only referring to today's world and not the world of 100 years ago or even 1000 years ago, when the Christian push to dominate the world destroyed cultures and crushed other religions. I am surprised that Muslim is thriving as it is today since they refuse to adapt to a changing world. I might be wrong on this a bit, because radical Muslim seems to be growing as its leaders adapt to a changing world and grow thru hatred of others. Hatred and ignorance is a powerful tool and when wielded by someone who wants mayhem, things like Nazi Germany get built and their atrocities happen.
Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
How much less could you care?
The Commish
Footballguy
This is sort of a shocking statement coming from you, but I am encouraged by it
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
The OP, the thread, or Islam?
B-Deep
Footballguy
did christianity evolve with the times, or did it evolve with power and influenceif the roles were flipped, if christianity was way outnumbered and confined to a small region, and the world was dominated by muslims, would there be christains still calling for the slaughter of muslims as the bible makes clear was done all the time? Would christianity be more old testament flavored if they were the minority?i don't think we can answer this questionwhen judeao-christian religions were just growing they used brutality and genocide freely and in fact we still celebrate those who did ithard to say what it would be like were the tables turned
Balance
Footballguy
So you are saying the christian god changed the religion over the last 800 years? In what way?
How is it better than Christianity? Christians don't tell their people to blow up themselves and innocent people. Christians don't treat their woman like objects. You are a fool.
timschochet
Footballguy
Again, discussing Islam is fine, but not in this context. The OP says: 8 years later; obviously the implication being that 9/11 was caused by the Islamic religion. This is just as insane as suggesting that Oklahoma City was caused by the Christian religion. It is, sadly, bigoted ignorance on the part of the person who started this thread.
That's not what I said at all.
That was my thinking. Please be cool in this thread. Take the jokes or shots to another board.J
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