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Your top 5 NFL MVP candidates right now (1 Viewer)

1. Brady

2. Palmer

3. Cam

4. Broncos D

5. Peyton - him getting hurt gives them a chance in the postseason.
Why in the world would Brady be #1?
Leads league in yards and TDs. Only has 6 INTs and his team is the currently the 1 seed in the AFC.
Cam has 2 more total TDs then brady.
What's Cams comp %?
Who gives a ####? He's winning games single-handedly.
Brady isn't?

 
1. Brady

2. Palmer

3. Cam

4. Broncos D

5. Peyton - him getting hurt gives them a chance in the postseason.
Why in the world would Brady be #1?
Leads league in yards and TDs. Only has 6 INTs and his team is the currently the 1 seed in the AFC.
Cam has 2 more total TDs then brady.
What's Cams comp %?
Who gives a ####? He's winning games single-handedly.
Brady isn't?
just stop. I'm a fan of Brady's too, but no way can you say that Cam doesn't deserve it and won't win it. Would take a meltdown the last 2 weeks for voters not to go for him.

 
1. Brady

2. Palmer

3. Cam

4. Broncos D

5. Peyton - him getting hurt gives them a chance in the postseason.
Why in the world would Brady be #1?
Leads league in yards and TDs. Only has 6 INTs and his team is the currently the 1 seed in the AFC.
Cam has 2 more total TDs then brady.
What's Cams comp %?
Who gives a ####? He's winning games single-handedly.
Brady isn't?
No, they lost two games. Fair or not, that factors in. Cam is tearing up the league on an undefeated team. He'll get the vast majority of votes.

 
1. Brady

2. Palmer

3. Cam

4. Broncos D

5. Peyton - him getting hurt gives them a chance in the postseason.
Why in the world would Brady be #1?
Leads league in yards and TDs. Only has 6 INTs and his team is the currently the 1 seed in the AFC.
Cam has 2 more total TDs then brady.
What's Cams comp %?
Who gives a ####? He's winning games single-handedly.
Don't bother with him. He's a troll. And a bad one at that. He'll clearly just keep adding stats until he finds something Brady is better at than Cam. He never said anything about comp % in his original post. Then you say he has more TDs and suddenly a different stat matters.

 
I think at #5 goes Antonio. He's unstoppable with Ben. He got to compile more even when Ben was out. If he had Ben the whole year it's diffuclt to think he wouldn't have obliterated the receptions record and may very well have broken the yardage mark as well.

 
I think at #5 goes Antonio. He's unstoppable with Ben. He got to compile more even when Ben was out. If he had Ben the whole year it's diffuclt to think he wouldn't have obliterated the receptions record and may very well have broken the yardage mark as well.
Antonio didn't have some good games when Vick was under center. It was too bad cause he more than likely still would have his streak going of having at least 5 receptions with 50 yards or more.

 
I think at #5 goes Antonio. He's unstoppable with Ben. He got to compile more even when Ben was out. If he had Ben the whole year it's diffuclt to think he wouldn't have obliterated the receptions record and may very well have broken the yardage mark as well.
Antonio didn't have some good games when Vick was under center. It was too bad cause he more than likely still would have his streak going of having at least 5 receptions with 50 yards or more.
He actually had a 6/47 game with Ben at QB which would have ended the streak. He did score a TD that game though.

 
It's Cam, no competition. Pats have lost 2 games, and Cam's weapons are just as bad arguably.
Cams weapons are much worse.Gronk>Olsen

Edelman and Amendola > any Panther WR.

it really isn't close.
These last couple games ted ginn has looked like a pro bowl wr.But yeah, the award goes to cam. Maybe unanimously.
Huh?!?!

50% of Ginn's targets hit him in the chest and fall to the ground.

 
spider321 said:
FUBAR said:
moleculo said:
ConnSKINS26 said:
It's Cam, no competition. Pats have lost 2 games, and Cam's weapons are just as bad arguably.
Cams weapons are much worse.Gronk>Olsen

Edelman and Amendola > any Panther WR.

it really isn't close.
These last couple games ted ginn has looked like a pro bowl wr.But yeah, the award goes to cam. Maybe unanimously.
Huh?!?!50% of Ginn's targets hit him in the chest and fall to the ground.
He's also made some catches over the last couple of games I thought for sure he'd drop.

 
spider321 said:
FUBAR said:
moleculo said:
ConnSKINS26 said:
It's Cam, no competition. Pats have lost 2 games, and Cam's weapons are just as bad arguably.
Cams weapons are much worse.Gronk>Olsen

Edelman and Amendola > any Panther WR.

it really isn't close.
These last couple games ted ginn has looked like a pro bowl wr.But yeah, the award goes to cam. Maybe unanimously.
Huh?!?!50% of Ginn's targets hit him in the chest and fall to the ground.
He's also made some catches over the last couple of games I thought for sure he'd drop.
Only because you have become accustomed to him dropping them.
 
spider321 said:
FUBAR said:
moleculo said:
ConnSKINS26 said:
It's Cam, no competition. Pats have lost 2 games, and Cam's weapons are just as bad arguably.
Cams weapons are much worse.Gronk>Olsen

Edelman and Amendola > any Panther WR.

it really isn't close.
These last couple games ted ginn has looked like a pro bowl wr.But yeah, the award goes to cam. Maybe unanimously.
Huh?!?!50% of Ginn's targets hit him in the chest and fall to the ground.
He's also made some catches over the last couple of games I thought for sure he'd drop.
Only because you have become accustomed to him dropping them.
:lmao: This is true.

Yeah, at this point, it's Cam. Brady, Gronk, Ben, Palmer, A. Brown, have all been great this year. But, assuming no two week long implosion where Cam pulls like an ODB that actually derails his team where Brady throws for 300 and 3 in two blowouts, it's clearly Cam's year. Guy has been incredible.

 
Anyone not giving a nod of acknowledgement to Wilson is either trolling or asleep.
No chance. He's had a good second half of the season. Cam and Brady are waaaay above him after doing it for the entire year. Wilson isn't even #3 in the race (Palmer). Quit trolling yourself.

 
Sabertooth said:
Antonio Brown is playing at a level I've never seen.
If Ben was healthy all year, it's almost a lock he makes a mockery of the receptions record and possibly breaks the yardage mark. He would be my frontrunner at this point even with a 14-0 Cam. Damn you Ben.

 
Zow said:
The Future Champs said:
Anyone not giving a nod of acknowledgement to Wilson is either trolling or asleep.
Location: Seattle. Wilson has been good this year. Definitely top 10. Probably around the Antonio Brown, JJ Watt, Aaron Rodgers area of that third tier of guys.
Rodgers is in no tier this year for MVP.

 
The Future Champs said:
Anyone not giving a nod of acknowledgement to Wilson is either trolling or asleep.
No chance. He's had a good second half of the season. Cam and Brady are waaaay above him after doing it for the entire year. Wilson isn't even #3 in the race (Palmer). Quit trolling yourself.
Who's trolling?

Wilson is 1st in QBR, he's run for 500 yds, his wrs are mediocre, and his offensive line is weak at pass protection. Most of the yds on the ground have come on desperation scrambles after getting flushed out of the pocket. Brady would be flat on his ### most of the time if he played for the Seahawks.

I'd vote cam #1, but Wilson definitely deserves to be in the top five.

 
The Future Champs said:
Anyone not giving a nod of acknowledgement to Wilson is either trolling or asleep.
No chance. He's had a good second half of the season. Cam and Brady are waaaay above him after doing it for the entire year. Wilson isn't even #3 in the race (Palmer). Quit trolling yourself.
To be clear, nobody has done what Wilson has done this year. At his best, he has been better than everybody else, and it isn't particularly close. If you'd like, go ahead and look up the other QB's who have thrown at least three touchdowns every game for five games with no picks in that timeframe.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

The first half of the season he wasn't that. I get it. His team's record isn't so hot. But if "it" is what Russell Wilson is doing right now, no QB this year (or ever) except Wilson is doing "it."

I've got no beef with Cam winning MVP this year. His team is undefeated. He's a former #1 draft pick. But he hasn't been as good as Russell Wilson over the last month or so, and that isn't an insult to Cam at all.

 
The Future Champs said:
Anyone not giving a nod of acknowledgement to Wilson is either trolling or asleep.
No chance. He's had a good second half of the season. Cam and Brady are waaaay above him after doing it for the entire year. Wilson isn't even #3 in the race (Palmer). Quit trolling yourself.
To be clear, nobody has done what Wilson has done this year. At his best, he has been better than everybody else, and it isn't particularly close. If you'd like, go ahead and look up the other QB's who have thrown at least three touchdowns every game for five games with no picks in that timeframe.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

The first half of the season he wasn't that. I get it. His team's record isn't so hot. But if "it" is what Russell Wilson is doing right now, no QB this year (or ever) except Wilson is doing "it."

I've got no beef with Cam winning MVP this year. His team is undefeated. He's a former #1 draft pick. But he hasn't been as good as Russell Wilson over the last month or so, and that isn't an insult to Cam at all.
MVP is a season-long award.

Give Wilson "Offensive Player of the Month."

 
Anyone not giving a nod of acknowledgement to Wilson is either trolling or asleep.
No chance. He's had a good second half of the season. Cam and Brady are waaaay above him after doing it for the entire year. Wilson isn't even #3 in the race (Palmer). Quit trolling yourself.
To be clear, nobody has done what Wilson has done this year. At his best, he has been better than everybody else, and it isn't particularly close. If you'd like, go ahead and look up the other QB's who have thrown at least three touchdowns every game for five games with no picks in that timeframe.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

The first half of the season he wasn't that. I get it. His team's record isn't so hot. But if "it" is what Russell Wilson is doing right now, no QB this year (or ever) except Wilson is doing "it."

I've got no beef with Cam winning MVP this year. His team is undefeated. He's a former #1 draft pick. But he hasn't been as good as Russell Wilson over the last month or so, and that isn't an insult to Cam at all.
MVP is a season-long award.Give Wilson "Offensive Player of the Month."
Sure. Obviously it is a season long award.Are you saying that you think a player who was a 3 for half the season and a 7 for half the season is worth less than a player who was a 5 all year?

Or are you saying it doesn't matter how good they are for part of the year unless they met some sort of minimum requirement for the whole year?

 
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Anyone not giving a nod of acknowledgement to Wilson is either trolling or asleep.
No chance. He's had a good second half of the season. Cam and Brady are waaaay above him after doing it for the entire year. Wilson isn't even #3 in the race (Palmer). Quit trolling yourself.
To be clear, nobody has done what Wilson has done this year. At his best, he has been better than everybody else, and it isn't particularly close. If you'd like, go ahead and look up the other QB's who have thrown at least three touchdowns every game for five games with no picks in that timeframe.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

The first half of the season he wasn't that. I get it. His team's record isn't so hot. But if "it" is what Russell Wilson is doing right now, no QB this year (or ever) except Wilson is doing "it."

I've got no beef with Cam winning MVP this year. His team is undefeated. He's a former #1 draft pick. But he hasn't been as good as Russell Wilson over the last month or so, and that isn't an insult to Cam at all.
MVP is a season-long award.Give Wilson "Offensive Player of the Month."
Sure. Obviously it is a season long award.Are you saying that you think a player who was a 3 for half the season and a 7 for half the season is worth less than a player who was a 5 all year?

Or are you saying it doesn't matter how good they are for part of the year unless they met some sort of minimum requirement for the whole year?
Yes, a 3 and a 7 is worth less then a 5 all season.

And Yes, it doesn't matter how good they are, if they didn't play well for half of a season.

Seattle fans keep getting more annoying by the day. It's like homerism began there.

It's Cam, stop fishing.

 
Anyone not giving a nod of acknowledgement to Wilson is either trolling or asleep.
No chance. He's had a good second half of the season. Cam and Brady are waaaay above him after doing it for the entire year. Wilson isn't even #3 in the race (Palmer). Quit trolling yourself.
To be clear, nobody has done what Wilson has done this year. At his best, he has been better than everybody else, and it isn't particularly close. If you'd like, go ahead and look up the other QB's who have thrown at least three touchdowns every game for five games with no picks in that timeframe.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

The first half of the season he wasn't that. I get it. His team's record isn't so hot. But if "it" is what Russell Wilson is doing right now, no QB this year (or ever) except Wilson is doing "it."

I've got no beef with Cam winning MVP this year. His team is undefeated. He's a former #1 draft pick. But he hasn't been as good as Russell Wilson over the last month or so, and that isn't an insult to Cam at all.
MVP is a season-long award.Give Wilson "Offensive Player of the Month."
Sure. Obviously it is a season long award.Are you saying that you think a player who was a 3 for half the season and a 7 for half the season is worth less than a player who was a 5 all year?

Or are you saying it doesn't matter how good they are for part of the year unless they met some sort of minimum requirement for the whole year?
Yes, a 3 and a 7 is worth less then a 5 all season.And Yes, it doesn't matter how good they are, if they didn't play well for half of a season.

Seattle fans keep getting more annoying by the day. It's like homerism began there.

It's Cam, stop fishing.
Did you not read where I said I had no problem with cam winning? I think it's an interesting discussion regardless of which jerseys the players wear.

You should calm down a bit. Being so uptight can't be good for you.

 
Anyone not giving a nod of acknowledgement to Wilson is either trolling or asleep.
No chance. He's had a good second half of the season. Cam and Brady are waaaay above him after doing it for the entire year. Wilson isn't even #3 in the race (Palmer). Quit trolling yourself.
To be clear, nobody has done what Wilson has done this year. At his best, he has been better than everybody else, and it isn't particularly close. If you'd like, go ahead and look up the other QB's who have thrown at least three touchdowns every game for five games with no picks in that timeframe.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

The first half of the season he wasn't that. I get it. His team's record isn't so hot. But if "it" is what Russell Wilson is doing right now, no QB this year (or ever) except Wilson is doing "it."

I've got no beef with Cam winning MVP this year. His team is undefeated. He's a former #1 draft pick. But he hasn't been as good as Russell Wilson over the last month or so, and that isn't an insult to Cam at all.
MVP is a season-long award.Give Wilson "Offensive Player of the Month."
Sure. Obviously it is a season long award.Are you saying that you think a player who was a 3 for half the season and a 7 for half the season is worth less than a player who was a 5 all year?

Or are you saying it doesn't matter how good they are for part of the year unless they met some sort of minimum requirement for the whole year?
Yes, a 3 and a 7 is worth less then a 5 all season.And Yes, it doesn't matter how good they are, if they didn't play well for half of a season.

Seattle fans keep getting more annoying by the day. It's like homerism began there.

It's Cam, stop fishing.
Did you not read where I said I had no problem with cam winning? I think it's an interesting discussion regardless of which jerseys the players wear.

You should calm down a bit. Being so uptight can't be good for you.
I'm pretty calm, but thanks. Arguing that RW should be the MVP is ludicrous. He likely doesn't even get a single vote.

 
Cam

Wilson

Palmer

Brady

A. Donald

If there is 1 QB out of these 4 I'd want to have over another it's clearly Russell Wilson. He's the only one that is basically unstoppable. He has played all year with arguably the worst OL and average WR.

Cam hasn't proven he can win a big game and is it times, inaccurate. Brady can't run. Put a consistent pass rush on him and he's average (unlike Wilson). Palmer is a very accurate QB but plays with the best trio of WR's but like Brady has little, to no mobility. Cam deserves the MVP but RW is the best QB in the league.

 
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Cam

Wilson

Palmer

Brady

A. Donald

If there is 1 QB out of these 4 I'd want to have over another it's clearly Russell Wilson. He's the only one that is basically unstoppable. He has played all year with arguably the worst OL and average WR.

Cam hasn't proven he can win a big game and is it times, inaccurate. Brady can't run. Put a consistent pass rush on him and he's average (unlike Wilson). Palmer is a very accurate QB but plays with the best trio of WR's but like Brady has little, to no mobility. Cam deserves the MVP but RW is the best QB in the league.
:lmao:

see above.

 
Anyone not giving a nod of acknowledgement to Wilson is either trolling or asleep.
No chance. He's had a good second half of the season. Cam and Brady are waaaay above him after doing it for the entire year. Wilson isn't even #3 in the race (Palmer). Quit trolling yourself.
To be clear, nobody has done what Wilson has done this year. At his best, he has been better than everybody else, and it isn't particularly close. If you'd like, go ahead and look up the other QB's who have thrown at least three touchdowns every game for five games with no picks in that timeframe.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

The first half of the season he wasn't that. I get it. His team's record isn't so hot. But if "it" is what Russell Wilson is doing right now, no QB this year (or ever) except Wilson is doing "it."

I've got no beef with Cam winning MVP this year. His team is undefeated. He's a former #1 draft pick. But he hasn't been as good as Russell Wilson over the last month or so, and that isn't an insult to Cam at all.
MVP is a season-long award.Give Wilson "Offensive Player of the Month."
Sure. Obviously it is a season long award.Are you saying that you think a player who was a 3 for half the season and a 7 for half the season is worth less than a player who was a 5 all year?

Or are you saying it doesn't matter how good they are for part of the year unless they met some sort of minimum requirement for the whole year?
Yes, I do think that consistency is a key element of an MVP season, especially in the NFL where losing a couple early games can really put the team in a hole.

Fantasy is much more forgiving of streaky players because performance up and down a roster is relatively independent. There is much less independence within an NFL roster, so those "3" weeks are magnified in their negative impact, just as much as the "7" weeks stand out.

There's also likely some recency bias. Cutler was putting up "7" games early and "3" games late and he's (deservedly) not even in this conversation.

 
I agree. He's just unstoppable.
Agreed. If AB & Big Ben could have played a full 16 game season, they would have obliterated the season receiving records. Their chemistry right now is a thing of football passing beauty.
While I agree, Brown's struggles during Ben's injury takes away from his MVP-ness. Had he kept lighting it up week after week without Ben, he'd be a top candidate, with he didn't. Roethlisberger isn't a serious candidate obviously, because while he has piled up the yards and has a great YPA, he has too many turnovers to get any consideration above or even next to Cam, Brady, Palmer and Wilson.

 
I agree. He's just unstoppable.
Agreed. If AB & Big Ben could have played a full 16 game season, they would have obliterated the season receiving records. Their chemistry right now is a thing of football passing beauty.
While I agree, Brown's struggles during Ben's injury takes away from his MVP-ness. Had he kept lighting it up week after week without Ben, he'd be a top candidate, with he didn't. Roethlisberger isn't a serious candidate obviously, because while he has piled up the yards and has a great YPA, he has too many turnovers to get any consideration above or even next to Cam, Brady, Palmer and Wilson.
AB should be in the discussion for OPOY, but he's not top 5 for MVP. Ben doesn't belong in either discussion (IMO)

 
I agree. He's just unstoppable.
Agreed. If AB & Big Ben could have played a full 16 game season, they would have obliterated the season receiving records. Their chemistry right now is a thing of football passing beauty.
While I agree, Brown's struggles during Ben's injury takes away from his MVP-ness. Had he kept lighting it up week after week without Ben, he'd be a top candidate, with he didn't. Roethlisberger isn't a serious candidate obviously, because while he has piled up the yards and has a great YPA, he has too many turnovers to get any consideration above or even next to Cam, Brady, Palmer and Wilson.
Kinda hard to light it up with Vick throwing the ball. (Landry wasn't much better)

In the 2 games in which Vick started, he had 32 total completions, of which Brown led the team with 8 receptions.

In the game Vick started and was replaced by Landry, combined they completed 11 passes. Brown had 3.

In Landry's 1st start he completed 16 passes, Brown led the team with 6.

I agree though, MVP is not in the discussion.

A great WR needs at least a decent QB to consistently perform.

 
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Anyone not giving a nod of acknowledgement to Wilson is either trolling or asleep.
No chance. He's had a good second half of the season. Cam and Brady are waaaay above him after doing it for the entire year. Wilson isn't even #3 in the race (Palmer). Quit trolling yourself.
To be clear, nobody has done what Wilson has done this year. At his best, he has been better than everybody else, and it isn't particularly close. If you'd like, go ahead and look up the other QB's who have thrown at least three touchdowns every game for five games with no picks in that timeframe.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

The first half of the season he wasn't that. I get it. His team's record isn't so hot. But if "it" is what Russell Wilson is doing right now, no QB this year (or ever) except Wilson is doing "it."

I've got no beef with Cam winning MVP this year. His team is undefeated. He's a former #1 draft pick. But he hasn't been as good as Russell Wilson over the last month or so, and that isn't an insult to Cam at all.
Wilson has crept in to the conversation...but over the last 5 games they have put up almost identical numbers.

To say Cam has not been as good as Wilson in the last month or so is just not true.

1365 yards passing 18 TDs 1 INT...214 rushing 1 TD 1 fumble lost

1420 yards passing 19 TDs 0 INT...147 rushing 1 TD 0 fumbles lost

2 turnovers is basically the difference...and that is the last 6 games.

And him being a former #1 pick is about as irrelevant as anything right now when it comes to MVP.

 
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You Seattle guys are nuts. :lmao:

Wilson is great. He's been especially great the latter half of the season (oddly enough since Lynch and Graham went down). But he's nowhere near Cam for the MVP and still probably behind Palmer and Brady since they've been great all year.

You got a great QB and are poised for a post-season run. Let this one go.

 

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