Yes there was closure to the smoke monster and to the polar bears. If I explained what they were to you without the context of the rest of the stuff that you missed it wouldn't make sense. Sorry you bailed early, you missed a great show...guess it just wasn't for you.
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- Thread starter Weapon of Mass Instruction
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⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Oh come on. There are plenty.POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOWNo, no - you said it, now deliver. What are the convenient coincidences?look, I feel almost dirty arguing the flaws of the best show on television. It is a great show. I'll just leave it at that. I want to enjoy this thread with you all for this upcoming season, not become the resident hater.
After all, we need something to discuss the next few days until it airs.
-Nobody finds the cash Walt hid in the diaper box.
-Chicken stopping the twins from killing Walt after he snuck into his house.
-Walt going into the bar and sitting next to the father of the girl who OD'd.
-Conveniently, none of the workers at the laundry plant wonder why two white guys regularly go into some secret part of the facility for hours on end.
-Walt's BIL shows up just in time to save Walt and Jesse from getting killed by Tuco.
-There were several times when Tuco's uncle gave up Walt (ding! ding! ding!) but people couldn't connect the dots.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
- meh I could see this happening plus its trivialOh come on. There are plenty.POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOWNo, no - you said it, now deliver. What are the convenient coincidences?look, I feel almost dirty arguing the flaws of the best show on television. It is a great show. I'll just leave it at that. I want to enjoy this thread with you all for this upcoming season, not become the resident hater.
-Nobody finds the cash Walt hid in the diaper box.
-Chicken stopping the twins from killing Walt after he snuck into his house.
-Walt going into the bar and sitting next to the father of the girl who OD'd.
-Conveniently, none of the workers at the laundry plant wonder why two white guys regularly go into some secret part of the facility for hours on end.
-Walt's BIL shows up just in time to save Walt and Jesse from getting killed by Tuco.
-There were several times when Tuco's uncle gave up Walt (ding! ding! ding!) but people couldn't connect the dots.
-- Walt was being watched. Chicekn man wanted Walt alive
-- Coincidencem but assuming it's the neighborhood old guy bar abd Walt was in Margolis' neighborhood
-- They didn't really need to be saved from Tuco
-- you may have to more specific. Uncle Tia certainly kept mum when the cops questioned him
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Although Jane's dad and Walt sitting there are a bit of a stretch...and IMO, probably the weakest thing about the show. (The plane crash).Oh come on. There are plenty.POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOWNo, no - you said it, now deliver. What are the convenient coincidences?look, I feel almost dirty arguing the flaws of the best show on television. It is a great show. I'll just leave it at that. I want to enjoy this thread with you all for this upcoming season, not become the resident hater.
-Nobody finds the cash Walt hid in the diaper box.
-Chicken stopping the twins from killing Walt after he snuck into his house.
-Walt going into the bar and sitting next to the father of the girl who OD'd.
-Conveniently, none of the workers at the laundry plant wonder why two white guys regularly go into some secret part of the facility for hours on end.
-Walt's BIL shows up just in time to save Walt and Jesse from getting killed by Tuco.
-There were several times when Tuco's uncle gave up Walt (ding! ding! ding!) but people couldn't connect the dots.
Tia never dinged to the cops. He's old school...he'll let the cartel handle it. I think Hank said as much.
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ItsOnlytheRiver
Footballguy
These are not good complaints, and show just how rock solid the story is.Oh come on. There are plenty.POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOWNo, no - you said it, now deliver. What are the convenient coincidences?look, I feel almost dirty arguing the flaws of the best show on television. It is a great show. I'll just leave it at that. I want to enjoy this thread with you all for this upcoming season, not become the resident hater.
-Nobody finds the cash Walt hid in the diaper box.
-Chicken stopping the twins from killing Walt after he snuck into his house.
-Walt going into the bar and sitting next to the father of the girl who OD'd.
-Conveniently, none of the workers at the laundry plant wonder why two white guys regularly go into some secret part of the facility for hours on end.
-Walt's BIL shows up just in time to save Walt and Jesse from getting killed by Tuco.
-There were several times when Tuco's uncle gave up Walt (ding! ding! ding!) but people couldn't connect the dots.
Major
Footballguy
Yep, the airplane crash is the only thing that really irked me. It helps remembering that Breaking Bad is fictional. That helps me get over these minor coincidences.Although Jane's dad and Walt sitting there are a bit of a stretch...and IMO, probably the weakest thing about the show. (The plane crash).Oh come on. There are plenty.POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOWNo, no - you said it, now deliver. What are the convenient coincidences?look, I feel almost dirty arguing the flaws of the best show on television. It is a great show. I'll just leave it at that. I want to enjoy this thread with you all for this upcoming season, not become the resident hater.
-Nobody finds the cash Walt hid in the diaper box.
-Chicken stopping the twins from killing Walt after he snuck into his house.
-Walt going into the bar and sitting next to the father of the girl who OD'd.
-Conveniently, none of the workers at the laundry plant wonder why two white guys regularly go into some secret part of the facility for hours on end.
-Walt's BIL shows up just in time to save Walt and Jesse from getting killed by Tuco.
-There were several times when Tuco's uncle gave up Walt (ding! ding! ding!) but people couldn't connect the dots.
Tia never dinged to the cops. He's old school...he'll let the cartel handle it. I think Hank said as much.
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
13 pages and I never put a :whitecorner: in. Hmmm, that's going to stop right here.
for tonight.
for tonight.
dude
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Oh Boy Oh Boy Oh Boy...
pantherclub
Footballguy
"Get your car fixed"
pantherclub
Footballguy
Dude, its Walt, he always knows what to say at the given time. The pause before he said it should have given you your answer.Hands down best show in TV history all things considered. From dialogue, to acting, to realism, to obscure comedy, to advancing the story without it getting stale. My only concern is if the producers get greedy and forget the cancer line in the story. The cancer angle is why all this has happened and the "remission" from last season hopefully only works for one season. I hope they dont milk the remission into multiple seasons and jump the shark.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
As a doornail.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Chicken man is a cool customer.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
It's been awhile. Didn't Jesse kill Gus's dealers or something?
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Apple Juice
Footballguy
This has been one of Aaron Paul's best performances and he hasn't said a word. The look of horror after the Gale shooting, the loathing after Gus's slash-job, just phenomenal.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
He has clearly taken acting lessons since season 1.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Lab Notes 
RUT ROH!
RUT ROH!
oh yeah, but wasn't it walt that ran them over with his car?
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Come on. It took me two seconds to think of these. And I grant you they may not be significant but there are many, many moments that are farfetched. Doesn't mean it's not a good show. It's a great show but if you don't see numerous convenient coincidences and improbable scenes, you're just a shill. Nothing wrong with that either. It's the best TV on.MOREYep, the airplane crash is the only thing that really irked me. It helps remembering that Breaking Bad is fictional. That helps me get over these minor coincidences.Although Jane's dad and Walt sitting there are a bit of a stretch...and IMO, probably the weakest thing about the show. (The plane crash).Oh come on. There are plenty.POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOWNo, no - you said it, now deliver. What are the convenient coincidences?look, I feel almost dirty arguing the flaws of the best show on television. It is a great show. I'll just leave it at that. I want to enjoy this thread with you all for this upcoming season, not become the resident hater.
-Nobody finds the cash Walt hid in the diaper box.
-Chicken stopping the twins from killing Walt after he snuck into his house.
-Walt going into the bar and sitting next to the father of the girl who OD'd.
-Conveniently, none of the workers at the laundry plant wonder why two white guys regularly go into some secret part of the facility for hours on end.
-Walt's BIL shows up just in time to save Walt and Jesse from getting killed by Tuco.
-There were several times when Tuco's uncle gave up Walt (ding! ding! ding!) but people couldn't connect the dots.
Tia never dinged to the cops. He's old school...he'll let the cartel handle it. I think Hank said as much.
-Nobody pokes around wondering why there's a hole in the ceiling of Jesse's house where, IIRC, a dead body had rotted through the ceiling joists or something like that.
-Parents won't disclose in sale that the house was previously a meth lab. Probably against the law.
-Neighbors in an expensive neighborhood don't have a problem with a 1970s POS RV being parked on the street/property.
-Walt and Jesse pull off an improbable heist to steal - by rolling - a 55 gallon drum of some meth-related stuff.
-Super BIL DEA Agent doesn't connect the dots - stolen meth gear from the high school, Walt's relationship with Jesse, picture of Walt as (can't recall Walt's meth name).
-Wife kept in the dark, learns of Walt's behavior and now actually wants to "reluctantly" participate in the scheme.
-How many improbable gratuitous hand job scenes are there? Those scenes serve as a reminder that this is fiction. Right?
-Tuco has the tainted batch when he's kidnapped the two. He's about to take it. Everything looking good and then Jesse just happens to mention that he laces his stuff with chili powder, so he won't take it. And what was it that was on TV that they try so desperately to keep from Tuco and do successfully?
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Hooooly smokes.
Wow.
Amazing start, I am not surprised in the least.
Wow.
Amazing start, I am not surprised in the least.
The attention to detail is great. The Kenny Rogers t-shirt with the size tape still on was perfect.Sauls fake pillars...
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Apple Juice
Footballguy
You're listing things you apparently find improbable. They aren't convenient coincidences used to move the plot. None of these call into question the credibility of the show. Some of them actually misrepresent how far the show was willing to go to avoid being sloppy. You think it's a convenient coincidence that Skylar came around to Walt's behavior? She spent an entire season hating him with every breath and doing everything she could to get away from him. The only reason she's going along now is to help Hank.Come on. It took me two seconds to think of these. And I grant you they may not be significant but there are many, many moments that are farfetched. Doesn't mean it's not a good show. It's a great show but if you don't see numerous convenient coincidences and improbable scenes, you're just a shill. Nothing wrong with that either. It's the best TV on.MOREYep, the airplane crash is the only thing that really irked me. It helps remembering that Breaking Bad is fictional. That helps me get over these minor coincidences.Although Jane's dad and Walt sitting there are a bit of a stretch...and IMO, probably the weakest thing about the show. (The plane crash).Oh come on. There are plenty.POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOWNo, no - you said it, now deliver. What are the convenient coincidences?look, I feel almost dirty arguing the flaws of the best show on television. It is a great show. I'll just leave it at that. I want to enjoy this thread with you all for this upcoming season, not become the resident hater.
-Nobody finds the cash Walt hid in the diaper box.
-Chicken stopping the twins from killing Walt after he snuck into his house.
-Walt going into the bar and sitting next to the father of the girl who OD'd.
-Conveniently, none of the workers at the laundry plant wonder why two white guys regularly go into some secret part of the facility for hours on end.
-Walt's BIL shows up just in time to save Walt and Jesse from getting killed by Tuco.
-There were several times when Tuco's uncle gave up Walt (ding! ding! ding!) but people couldn't connect the dots.
Tia never dinged to the cops. He's old school...he'll let the cartel handle it. I think Hank said as much.
-Nobody pokes around wondering why there's a hole in the ceiling of Jesse's house where, IIRC, a dead body had rotted through the ceiling joists or something like that.
-Parents won't disclose in sale that the house was previously a meth lab. Probably against the law.
-Neighbors in an expensive neighborhood don't have a problem with a 1970s POS RV being parked on the street/property.
-Walt and Jesse pull off an improbable heist to steal - by rolling - a 55 gallon drum of some meth-related stuff.
-Super BIL DEA Agent doesn't connect the dots - stolen meth gear from the high school, Walt's relationship with Jesse, picture of Walt as (can't recall Walt's meth name).
-Wife kept in the dark, learns of Walt's behavior and now actually wants to "reluctantly" participate in the scheme.
-How many improbable gratuitous hand job scenes are there? Those scenes serve as a reminder that this is fiction. Right?
-Tuco has the tainted batch when he's kidnapped the two. He's about to take it. Everything looking good and then Jesse just happens to mention that he laces his stuff with chili powder, so he won't take it. And what was it that was on TV that they try so desperately to keep from Tuco and do successfully?
NYRAGE
Footballguy
I love these post-show discussions although they are way too short.
http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/inside-breaking-bad-box-cutter
http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/inside-breaking-bad-box-cutter
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Just for Tanner.... Alan Sepinwall's first BB review of the season; hot off the press!
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
You're listing things you apparently find improbable. They aren't convenient coincidences used to move the plot. None of these call into question the credibility of the show. Some of them actually misrepresent how far the show was willing to go to avoid being sloppy. You think it's a convenient coincidence that Skylar came around to Walt's behavior? She spent an entire season hating him with every breath and doing everything she could to get away from him. The only reason she's going along now is to help Hank.Come on. It took me two seconds to think of these. And I grant you they may not be significant but there are many, many moments that are farfetched. Doesn't mean it's not a good show. It's a great show but if you don't see numerous convenient coincidences and improbable scenes, you're just a shill. Nothing wrong with that either. It's the best TV on.MOREYep, the airplane crash is the only thing that really irked me. It helps remembering that Breaking Bad is fictional. That helps me get over these minor coincidences.Although Jane's dad and Walt sitting there are a bit of a stretch...and IMO, probably the weakest thing about the show. (The plane crash).Oh come on. There are plenty.POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOWNo, no - you said it, now deliver. What are the convenient coincidences?look, I feel almost dirty arguing the flaws of the best show on television. It is a great show. I'll just leave it at that. I want to enjoy this thread with you all for this upcoming season, not become the resident hater.
-Nobody finds the cash Walt hid in the diaper box.
-Chicken stopping the twins from killing Walt after he snuck into his house.
-Walt going into the bar and sitting next to the father of the girl who OD'd.
-Conveniently, none of the workers at the laundry plant wonder why two white guys regularly go into some secret part of the facility for hours on end.
-Walt's BIL shows up just in time to save Walt and Jesse from getting killed by Tuco.
-There were several times when Tuco's uncle gave up Walt (ding! ding! ding!) but people couldn't connect the dots.
Tia never dinged to the cops. He's old school...he'll let the cartel handle it. I think Hank said as much.
-Nobody pokes around wondering why there's a hole in the ceiling of Jesse's house where, IIRC, a dead body had rotted through the ceiling joists or something like that.
-Parents won't disclose in sale that the house was previously a meth lab. Probably against the law.
-Neighbors in an expensive neighborhood don't have a problem with a 1970s POS RV being parked on the street/property.
-Walt and Jesse pull off an improbable heist to steal - by rolling - a 55 gallon drum of some meth-related stuff.
-Super BIL DEA Agent doesn't connect the dots - stolen meth gear from the high school, Walt's relationship with Jesse, picture of Walt as (can't recall Walt's meth name).
-Wife kept in the dark, learns of Walt's behavior and now actually wants to "reluctantly" participate in the scheme.
-How many improbable gratuitous hand job scenes are there? Those scenes serve as a reminder that this is fiction. Right?
-Tuco has the tainted batch when he's kidnapped the two. He's about to take it. Everything looking good and then Jesse just happens to mention that he laces his stuff with chili powder, so he won't take it. And what was it that was on TV that they try so desperately to keep from Tuco and do successfully?
Please.SPOILER BELOWOk, here's another. Jesse goes to rehab meeting, meets up with a chick, who happens to have a younger brother who was on the streets working a corner. He and this chick become an item, when he learns that this same little brother is the kid who shot his buddy dead a season or two earlier. I mean come on.
corpcow
Footballguy
I had cancer... but I'm cancer free now. "Remission" doesn't mean "one season, and then he'll die". Of course, there's probably a good chance that will figure prominently again in the story somehow... don't you think?
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PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
That's not why he killed him. He killed him because he was sloppy and let himself be seen at the murder scene.Just for Tanner.... Alan Sepinwall's first BB review of the season; hot off the press!
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
You are both getting stuff wrong, missing some of the points of these "coincidences," and calling some things coincidences that aren't far fetched. A couple examples:- Why would someone look in a diaper box before the baby arrived? Doesn't seem far-fetched to me.'Sandeman said:'Apple Juice said:You're listing things you apparently find improbable. They aren't convenient coincidences used to move the plot. None of these call into question the credibility of the show. Some of them actually misrepresent how far the show was willing to go to avoid being sloppy. You think it's a convenient coincidence that Skylar came around to Walt's behavior? She spent an entire season hating him with every breath and doing everything she could to get away from him. The only reason she's going along now is to help Hank.'Sandeman said:Come on. It took me two seconds to think of these. And I grant you they may not be significant but there are many, many moments that are farfetched. Doesn't mean it's not a good show. It's a great show but if you don't see numerous convenient coincidences and improbable scenes, you're just a shill. Nothing wrong with that either. It's the best TV on.MORE'Major said:Yep, the airplane crash is the only thing that really irked me. It helps remembering that Breaking Bad is fictional. That helps me get over these minor coincidences.'Thunderlips said:Although Jane's dad and Walt sitting there are a bit of a stretch...and IMO, probably the weakest thing about the show. (The plane crash).'Sandeman said:Oh come on. There are plenty.POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOWNo, no - you said it, now deliver. What are the convenient coincidences?look, I feel almost dirty arguing the flaws of the best show on television. It is a great show. I'll just leave it at that. I want to enjoy this thread with you all for this upcoming season, not become the resident hater.
-Nobody finds the cash Walt hid in the diaper box.
-Chicken stopping the twins from killing Walt after he snuck into his house.
-Walt going into the bar and sitting next to the father of the girl who OD'd.
-Conveniently, none of the workers at the laundry plant wonder why two white guys regularly go into some secret part of the facility for hours on end.
-Walt's BIL shows up just in time to save Walt and Jesse from getting killed by Tuco.
-There were several times when Tuco's uncle gave up Walt (ding! ding! ding!) but people couldn't connect the dots.
Tia never dinged to the cops. He's old school...he'll let the cartel handle it. I think Hank said as much.
-Nobody pokes around wondering why there's a hole in the ceiling of Jesse's house where, IIRC, a dead body had rotted through the ceiling joists or something like that.
-Parents won't disclose in sale that the house was previously a meth lab. Probably against the law.
-Neighbors in an expensive neighborhood don't have a problem with a 1970s POS RV being parked on the street/property.
-Walt and Jesse pull off an improbable heist to steal - by rolling - a 55 gallon drum of some meth-related stuff.
-Super BIL DEA Agent doesn't connect the dots - stolen meth gear from the high school, Walt's relationship with Jesse, picture of Walt as (can't recall Walt's meth name).
-Wife kept in the dark, learns of Walt's behavior and now actually wants to "reluctantly" participate in the scheme.
-How many improbable gratuitous hand job scenes are there? Those scenes serve as a reminder that this is fiction. Right?
-Tuco has the tainted batch when he's kidnapped the two. He's about to take it. Everything looking good and then Jesse just happens to mention that he laces his stuff with chili powder, so he won't take it. And what was it that was on TV that they try so desperately to keep from Tuco and do successfully?
Ok, here's another. Jesse goes to rehab meeting, meets up with a chick, who happens to have a younger brother who was on the streets working a corner. He and this chick become an item, when he learns that this same little brother is the kid who shot his buddy dead a season or two earlier. I mean come on.
- Walt sitting next to the dad didn't advance the plot at all. It wasn't necessary, and therefore it's not a "convenient" coincidence. It was a deliberate move to show how all our lives cross. You can dislike that if you want, but that doesn't make it a convenient coincidence.
- Why would workers care about two white guys entering the building? There's a ton of people I pass every day around my office and I have no idea what they do. You're assuming people are inherently suspicious and assume there are criminal conspiracies around them in their everyday lives. They do not.
- People don't disclose things in real estate offerings all the time, because there's tens of thousands of dollars at stake.. It's stupid to complain about that as a "convenient coincidence."
- I don't understand why it's weird that nobody notices the hole in the ceiling. How could they unless they were in the house?
I could go on and on with stuff you listed that's either not the much of a coincidence or isn't "convenient" in that it wasn't needed to move the story forward.
Like others have said,all the coincidences leading to the plane crash were a little beyond the pale, and I'll give you Hank showing up just in time to save them from Tuco as pushing it a bit, too. But those are the only two you listed that push suspension of disbelief at all, IMO. The rest is just standard storytelling stuff; people's lives intersecting, people catching good and bad breaks, people getting away with crimes or getting caught due to circumstances, etc. If you don't like the standard staples of fiction, maybe a mall security tape or sitting on a park bench watching ducks or something is more to your liking?
