Antonio Brown - Official Thread

[osubuckeyeman 188]

On 11/24/2020 at 3:32 PM, kyoun1e said:

Grabbed him when the news first broke and he's my #4 WR...and climbing.

Hard to not get excited about what we're seeing. He's getting a ton of targets. Last two weeks he's at least been flex worthy. And last night he exceeded most projections...against arguably the toughest WR matchup in the league. And Brady missed him deep a couple times.

Going to be tough to sit @KC this week in a potential shootout. And will be difficult to sit during the fantasy playoffs when TB runs into MN, @ATL, @DET.

Yum.

Pretty much has been a solid flex since returning.  No risk player in my eyes.  Easy cut if he screws up and flex numbers with upside if he does not. 

[Johnny Utah #9 328]

Anyone rolling him out this week? I’m tempted to start him over Parker and Pittman. Feels like a Brady bounce back game after a week of national criticism.

Love the targets, but the insanely low yardage is a big concern. I’m hoping last week’s dink and dunk bonanza was a product of avoiding the Rams pass rush, but we’ll see. I have Godwin as well and AB is killing his numbers, so I would only want to throw AB out there as well if it looks like a shootout. The game this week vs KC seems to fit the bill.  

[kyoun1e 897]

Not loving the matchup. Conventional wisdom says he plays on the perimeter for the most part which is KCs strength. Also think TB runs the ball more this week.

That said, I bet he's a safe floor play for 5-50-0 if you're up and projected to win post turkey day games.

I'm debating AB vs. a bunch of RBs in the flex who just emerged due to injury -- Gaskin, B. Hill, Gio, Mostert.

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Forget Bruce Arians: Antonio Brown Is The Problem For Tom Brady’s Offense In Tampa Bay

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2 hours ago, Johnny Utah #9 said:

Anyone rolling him out this week? I’m tempted to start him over Parker and Pittman. Feels like a Brady bounce back game after a week of national criticism.

Love the targets, but the insanely low yardage is a big concern. I’m hoping last week’s dink and dunk bonanza was a product of avoiding the Rams pass rush, but we’ll see. I have Godwin as well and AB is killing his numbers, so I would only want to throw AB out there as well if it looks like a shootout. The game this week vs KC seems to fit the bill.  

I'm not starting him everywhere but often and with confidence because with the targets and catches up each week he's displaying a really nice floor combined with upside.

Personally, as it relates to PPR, I'm a big fan of the dink and dunk bonanza and don't think it's going anywhere because it's what Brady does best. This is also why I would start AB with confidence for at least a solid floor. AB is not making the downfield plays he was making in PIttsburgh  but he's starting to look a bit like Wes Welker/Edelman plus,  the guy Brady relies on to get open quickly plus has ability to go deep.

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13 minutes ago, Faust said:

Forget Bruce Arians: Antonio Brown Is The Problem For Tom Brady’s Offense In Tampa Bay

I keep seeing people trying with this awful take.

 

[Johnny Utah #9 328]

39 minutes ago, kyoun1e said:

Not loving the matchup. Conventional wisdom says he plays on the perimeter for the most part which is KCs strength. Also think TB runs the ball more this week.

That said, I bet he's a safe floor play for 5-50-0 if you're up and projected to win post turkey day games.

I'm debating AB vs. a bunch of RBs in the flex who just emerged due to injury -- Gaskin, B. Hill, Gio, Mostert.

Yeah, good points about KC perimeter D, but it does look like that defense has taken a step back in recent weeks. They’ve found themselves in shootouts recently with competent offenses. Those Raiders games have my some serious pause.  But you’re right that I’m sure TB will try to establish the run. We’ll see how long they can hang with that strategy with Mahomes slinging it.

Of your options, unless it’s full ppr, I would definitely give those RBs a serious look over AB, especially Mostert. Gio probably a stay away.

Edited November 28, 2020 by Johnny Utah #9

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11 minutes ago, Johnny Utah #9 said:

Yeah, good points about KC perimeter D, but it does look like that defense has taken a step back in recent weeks. They’ve found themselves in shootouts recently with competent offenses. Those Raiders games have my some serious pause.  But you’re right that I’m sure TB will try to establish the run. We’ll see how long they can hang with that strategy with Mahomes slinging it.

Of your options, unless it’s full ppr, I would definitely give those RBs a serious look over AB, especially Mostert. Gio probably a stay away.

Yeah it's full PPR.

Can't get a read on Mostert yet.

I also own M. Evans. I'm tempted to throw both Evans and AB in there if this is going to be a shootout, although this seems like a Godwin game.

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1 hour ago, menobrown said:

I keep seeing people trying with this awful take.

 

100% agree. Brown has probably been their best wide receiver since he got there. If anything, he should be getting more snaps. He's been right there with Godwin and Evans, on far fewer routes and snaps.

If anybody is killing that offense, it's fournette. 

[Roy L Fewks 350]

He's killing the offense by instantly making Evans and Godwin look pedestrian.

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Antonio Brown caught 2-of-3 targets for 11 yards in the Bucs' Week 12 loss to the Chiefs.

After seeing 26 targets in his first three games with the team, Brown took a distant back seat as the fourth option in the passing game. He's going to be a volatile WR3/4 over the stretch run when the Bucs come out of their bye for a Week 14 date with the Vikings.

Nov 29, 2020, 8:24 PM ET

 

 

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Antonio Brown caught 2-of-3 targets for 11 yards in the Bucs' Week 12 loss to the Chiefs.

After seeing 26 targets in his first three games with the team, Brown took a distant back seat as the fourth option in the passing game. He's going to be a volatile WR3/4 over the stretch run when the Bucs come out of their bye for a Week 14 date with the Vikings.

- Rotoworld

 

Edited November 30, 2020 by The Frankman

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On 11/28/2020 at 10:34 AM, Johnny Utah #9 said:

Yeah, good points about KC perimeter D, but it does look like that defense has taken a step back in recent weeks. They’ve found themselves in shootouts recently with competent offenses. Those Raiders games have my some serious pause.  But you’re right that I’m sure TB will try to establish the run. We’ll see how long they can hang with that strategy with Mahomes slinging it.

Of your options, unless it’s full ppr, I would definitely give those RBs a serious look over AB, especially Mostert. Gio probably a stay away.

Fantastic user name

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On 11/28/2020 at 12:49 PM, Roy L Fewks said:

He's killing the offense by instantly making Evans and Godwin look pedestrian.

updating earlier reports...

[Dizzy 803]

I got burned by AB yesterday. Looked to me like the plan was to simply send AB off on a fly route every time he was on the field to clear out space for underneath patterns to TE or Godwin. Seemed like Brady never even looked his way. Whether that was the game plan or an adjusted game plan... that's that what I saw.

I only played him because I had little confidence in the PIT/BAL game actually getting played. Turned out the point differential between AB and nobody was a lot closer than anticipated.

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Antonio Brown's civil case has been delayed until Dec. 6-17, 2021. 

Brown is being accused of rape and sexual assault in a civil, not criminal, case. The distant court date means that, for now, Brown is not at threat of suspension for the rest of this season or early 2021. 

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter 

Dec 1, 2020, 5:29 PM ET

 

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Why Antonio Brown has made the Bucs offense worse

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1 hour ago, Faust said:

Why Antonio Brown has made the Bucs offense worse

There may be something to his negative effect on the offense, but it’s lazy analysis to place a lot of blame of the three losses on Brown.

How about the defense: giving up 38, 27, 27 and points in those three losses along with 420, 413, and 543 yards, respectively, in those games. And they played the Saints, Rams and Chiefs in those three losses.

Edited December 9, 2020 by zamboni

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5 minutes ago, zamboni said:

There may be something to his negative effect on the offense, but it’s lazy analysis to place a lot of blame of the three losses on Brown.

How about the defense: giving up 38, 27, 27 and points in those three losses along with 420, 413, and 543 yards, respectively, in those games. And they played the Saints, Rams and Chiefs in those three losses.

Bucs blog doesn't want to acknowledge that other teams are better. More at 6. 

[Johnny Utah #9 328]

So anybody have the stones to roll him out this week?

Coming off a bye week, possibly being further assimilated into the offense, maybe roomies Tom and AB were working on some things over the break?

By the numbers the matchup is juicy. The concern, as always, is too many mouths to feed. I have no doubt the Bucs are going to try to take a flame thrower to that Vikes pass D and get their offense back on track as they push to the playoffs, the question is who will be the beneficiary? The matchup is a nice get right spot for the offense, and I can see it getting into a shootout as the Bucs pass D is suspect as well. I have Godwin as well and I’m tempted to double up on the Bucs WRs this week, although knowing my luck it will probably be a big Evans/Gronk game.

Edited December 9, 2020 by Johnny Utah #9

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Can't imagine too many playoff teams with AB on it unless they are loaded with WR's.

The only way I would start him this week is if Godwin or one of the other WR's is out.  

[Johnny Utah #9 328]

22 minutes ago, FairWarning said:

Can't imagine too many playoff teams with AB on it unless they are loaded with WR's.

The only way I would start him this week is if Godwin or one of the other WR's is out.  

Yeah, I scooped him when he signed with the Bucs. Never played him but figured he was Godwin insurance. That was before Fuller got popped for PEDs so I’m now forced into options like DeVante Parker (Tua ruined him).

Interesting thing is his ECR is much higher than I expected (32). Seems he’s slotted around guys who have performed better but with worse matchups this week (ie Aiyuk, Coutee). So at least it looks like the groupthink out there is that this week could be somewhat promising.

Edited December 9, 2020 by Johnny Utah #9

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3 minutes ago, Johnny Utah #9 said:

Yeah, I scooped him when he signed with the Bucs. Never played him but figured he was Godwin insurance. That was before Fuller got popped for PEDs so I’m now forced into options like DeVante Parker (Tua ruined him).

interesting thing is his ECR is much higher than I expected (32). Seems he’s slotted around guys who have performed better but with worse matchups (ie Aiyuk, Coutee). So at least it looks like groupthink out there is that this week could be somewhat promising.

I can't say that Coutee has a worse matchup.  I think a lot of the Bears gaudy pass D numbers early were a result of a easy schedule.  That D has leaked oil for six weeks now.   Personally I'm playing a lot of Coutee in DK this week, Watson has to throw to someone.

[Johnny Utah #9 328]

Mike Evans got downgraded to a DNP today after a limited practice with a hammy yesterday..... things just got interesting. 

If Evans is out, AB becomes the primary target on the outside and would hopefully now get some end zone looks. I mean, they can’t ALL go to Gronk if Evans is out right? If Evans indeed misses this game, Mr. Big Chest should be all systems go. What say you?

[Cobbler1 1,105]

9 minutes ago, Johnny Utah #9 said:

Mike Evans got downgraded to a DNP today after a limited practice with a hammy yesterday..... things just got interesting. 

If Evans is out, AB becomes the primary target on the outside and would hopefully now get some end zone looks. I mean, they can’t ALL go to Gronk if Evans is out right? If Evans indeed misses this game, Mr. Big Chest should be all systems go. What say you?

Yup I’m with you and will be starting him over Claypool if Evans is out.

[SCT 297]

If Evans is out, I'm tempted to start him over McLaurin....crazy?

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12 minutes ago, SCT said:

If Evans is out, I'm tempted to start him over McLaurin....crazy?

Yes - not too many guys I’d bench McLaurin for.

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1 hour ago, SCT said:

If Evans is out, I'm tempted to start him over McLaurin....crazy?

Not crazy, but also not something I'd do. I'd probably have McLaurin in the WR10-15 range, if Evans is out, I'd have Brown around WR20. 

ETA: I could certainly see Brown over Claypool though.

Edited December 11, 2020 by travdogg

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On 12/9/2020 at 6:04 PM, FairWarning said:

Can't imagine too many playoff teams with AB on it unless they are loaded with WR's.

The only way I would start him this week is if Godwin or one of the other WR's is out.  

I could see it if you were riding Fuller after OBJ went down, and stupidly traded Corey Davis for short term RB help when all your RBs were injured (only to watch that rb get immediately injured), and you don't want to play Tyler Boyd and Sterling Shepherd with their current QBs. Not that this exact thing happened to my team 🤣

[Johnny Utah #9 328]

2 hours ago, SCT said:

If Evans is out, I'm tempted to start him over McLaurin....crazy?

I can see the reasoning, but not something I’d do. Outside of two weeks this year (last week being one of them) F1 has been money in the bank. For comparison’s sake, the guys I’d be playing AB over would be the likes of Parker, Coutee, and maybe Marvin Jones (don’t like the Jiare matchup). 

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On 12/9/2020 at 5:04 PM, FairWarning said:

Can't imagine too many playoff teams with AB on it unless they are loaded with WR's.

 

I have 18 of them in redraft. I'm not sure why you would say what you are saying? His cost was minimal,  it's not as if he was some expensive bust.

 

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26 minutes ago, menobrown said:

I have 18 of them in redraft. I'm not sure why you would say what you are saying? His cost was minimal,  it's not as if he was some expensive bust.

 

Agreed, he was a free agent in most leagues, he was cheap if not free (in terms of FAAB or waiver claims) if you jumped early enough.

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Antonio Brown caught 5-of-7 targets for 93 yards and one touchdown in the Bucs' Week 15 win over the Falcons.

Brown's seven targets tied Mike Evans and Rob Gronkowski for the team lead. He was having a mostly quiet day before getting loose behind the defense for a 46-yard touchdown over the top with 6:19 to play that proved to be the game-winning score. It was Brown's first touchdown in six games with the Bucs. He continues to see heavy target usage and will be a WR3 next week in a dream spot against the Lions.

Dec 20, 2020, 5:20 PM ET

 

 

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Antonio Brown caught 2-of-3 targets for 49 yards and one touchdown in the Bucs' Wild Card win over Washington.

Brown broke free for a 36-yard touchdown in the first quarter and turned the corner on a target in the flats for his two receptions. He seems to be getting more comfortable as the weeks stack up, although he's still being utilized as a distant third receiver behind Chris Godwin (12 targets) and Mike Evans (10 targets). Brown will be parked inside three-receiver sets next weekend, possibly in New Orleans.

Jan 10, 2021, 12:03 AM ET

 

 

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Antonio Brown caught 1-of-3 targets for 10 yards in the Bucs' Divisional Round win over the Saints.

Brown wasn't targeted in the second half as he stood on the sideline with what appeared to be an injury. It was Scotty Miller and Tyler Johnson soaking up snaps behind Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. Brown will have the week to get ready for next Sunday's NFC title game against the Packers.

Jan 17, 2021, 10:49 PM ET

 

 

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Antonio Brown is undergoing an MRI on his injured knee. 

Brown, who had one catch for 10 yards Sunday, was seen on the sideline in the second half of Tampa's Divisional Round win over the Saints after suffering the injury. His absence opened up playing time for Tyler Johnson and Scotty Miller alongside Chris Godwin and Mike Evans. Brown's practice participation will be key in knowing whether the veteran will be available this week against the Packers. 

SOURCE: Jenna Laine on Twitter

Jan 18, 2021, 12:15 PM ET

 

 

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Antonio Brown Free Agency Outlook 2021: Where will he play in 2021?

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Antonio Brown's knee injury is not considered serious and he'll prepare to play in the NFL championship game against the Packers. 

Brown's Monday MRI on the injured knee -- which kept him sidelined for the second half last week against the Saints -- revealed no serious damage. While Brown's practice status will prove critical in the coming days, it appears he's likely to suit up for the NFC title game against Green Bay. Tyler Johnson and Scotty Miller would have some fantasy relevance if Brown is sidelined. 

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Jan 19, 2021, 10:17 AM ET

 

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Bucs head coach Bruce Arians said Antonio Brown (knee) will be a game-time decision against the Packers. 

Arians said Brown -- who has not practiced this week after suffering the knee injury in the Divisional Round -- won't have to practice to suit up Sunday against Green Bay. "He's a veteran," Arians said. "He knows what he's doing." It's uncertain whether Brown would be limited against the Packers if he's able to play through the knee issue, making him a dicey DFS option at best. His absence would open up snaps and targets for Scotty Miller and Tyler Johnson. 

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SOURCE: Ben Volin on Twitter 

Jan 21, 2021, 1:21 PM ET

 

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Antonio Brown (knee) has been ruled out for the NFC Championship against the Packers.

Brown's knee injury kept him out of practice all week and will sideline him for the NFC title game. Scotty Miller and Tyler Johnson will pick up Brown's targets, though neither projects for a high-volume role behind Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and Rob Gronkowski. Brown should have a chance to return for the Super Bowl if the Bucs advance.

Jan 22, 2021, 12:25 PM ET

 

 

[Helaire-ious 109]

Does AB have any PPR dynasty value?

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34 minutes ago, Helaire-ious said:

Does AB have any PPR dynasty value?

I was hoping he'd have a nice play-off run and I could use him as part of a deal.  Tough to see a significant rise in value if all the principles are still in Tampa next fall.

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Buccaneers want WR Antonio Brown back for the 2021 season.

Brown is out for the Bucs' NFC Championship game against the Packers so he could miss their final game of the year if Tampa Bay doesn't come out on top. Regardless, Brown has played well after missing over a year of football. He closed out the regular season with 483 yards and four scores on 45 receptions while playing in just eight games. Browns and Chris Godwin are free agents this year so it's possible that the Bucs wanting to bring Brown back is a sign that the team is willing to let Godwin walk. However, the market for Brown could be tepid given his recent history of off-field issues and he is beloved by Tom Brady so his status could also have little effect on Godwin. If Godwin does walk and Brown stays, the ADP spike for Brown would reach critical mass.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Jan 24, 2021, 9:20 AM ET

 

 

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Antonio Brown (knee) is expected to be ready for the Super Bowl against the Chiefs. 

Brown was inactive in the NFC title game after missing the entire week of practice headed into the game. He now has two weeks to get right before the Bucs face off against Kansas City in the Bucs' home-game Super Bowl. Brown drew three targets in the Wild Card round against Washington -- catching two balls for 49 yards and a touchdown -- and three targets against the Saints in the Divisional Round before exiting with the knee injury. Against the Chiefs in Week 12, Brown caught two of three targets for 11 yards. Scotty Miller would be the primary beneficiary if Brown has a setback in practice over the next couple weeks. 

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Jan 26, 2021, 12:26 PM ET

 

 

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Bucs coach Bruce Arians doesn't expect Antonio Brown (knee) to practice this week. 

Brown and SS Antonie Winfield are expected to sit out this week of practice. “I think it’s too early,” Arians said. “Neither one of those guys will probably practice and we’ll see how it rolls out next Tuesday for both of them.” The Bucs are also hoping to get FS Jordan Whitehead (shoulder) back in the next two weeks. All three players are up in the air for Super Bowl 55.

SOURCE: Pewter Report

Jan 27, 2021, 10:05 AM ET

 

 

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Antonio Brown (knee) remained sidelined for Thursday's practice.

it doesn't mean much since Super Bowl LV is still 10 days out, but Brown officially hasn't practiced since injuring his knee in the Divisional Round against New Orleans. Scotty Miller was primarily used as the team's third wideout against the Packers, running 20 routes to Tyler Johnson's 12 and hauling in a 39-yard touchdown prior to the half, but neither would be leaned on if Brown is available against Kansas City. His status will be worth monitoring in the days leading up to the final game.

SOURCE: Greg Auman on Twitter

Jan 28, 2021, 11:15 AM ET

 

 

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Jason Licht: Antonio Brown “has been nothing short of spectacular”

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Appearing recently on the Peter King Podcast, G.M. Jason Licht addressed Brown’s behavior with the Bucs.

“He has been nothing short of spectacular,” Licht said of Brown. “His attitude, his work ethic, which everybody knows, he works very hard, but just his attitude. He’s actually been mentoring players. I see him on the sideline this year, talking to Leonard Fournette saying, ‘Hey, be patient. Your time will come. Be a team player.’ And it’s really a remarkable moment to see Antonio Brown being a mentor. It’s been spectacular. Couldn’t be happier with him, what he’s done for us as a player, but also what he’s done for us as a teammate. A lot of people wouldn’t think you would be saying that about him, but I am.”

Licht added the Brown, who missed the NFC Championship with a knee injury, “desperately” wants to play in the Super Bowl.

“I’m optimistic at this point, but we’ll see,” Licht said.

 

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Buccaneers Insider Has Latest On WR Antonio Brown

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The health of wide receiver Antonio Brown still remains a major concern for the Bucs.

The 32-year-old missed another day of practice on Friday, according to Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times. Brown was also absent from Thursday’s practice which continues to create doubt that he’ll be ready by next Sunday.

The Buccaneers wideout seems to still be nursing the same knee that kept him out of of Tampa Bay’s NFC Championship win. The team still hasn’t fully disclosed the exact nature of the injury but it appears to be fairly serious.

Stroud and other reporters at practice still sounded unsurprised at Brown’s absence. The Buccaneers seem to be using this week for rest to try and get their best players as healthy as possible going into the weekend.

 

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Antonio Brown (knee) will practice on a limited basis Wednesday.

It's a step in the right direction for Brown, who was listed as doubtful on the Bucs' first injury report. Despite the return to practice, his status for Sunday's game still remains up in the air. Brown's health is trending up, but he'll need to avoid setbacks to be cleared for the Super Bowl.

SOURCE: NFL Network

Feb 3, 2021, 12:41 PM ET

 

 

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NFL Network's Ian Rapaport said Antonio Brown (knee) "probably" plays in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs.

Brown didn't practice last week, but he returned in limited fashion on Wednesday. His workload is being ramped up ahead of the big game, enough so that it would be a big surprise if he wasn't available. Brown is a distant third option for the Bucs, particularly with the offense utilizing two tight end sets in recent weeks. The veteran will likely only play in 11-personnel while Mike Evans and Chris Godwin demand the most targets. Brown's return to the lineup would keep Scotty Miller and Tyler Johnson in low-snap roles.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Feb 3, 2021, 6:39 PM ET