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krsone21

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jonathanjoseph

Michael Vick PHI QB6

Jake Locker TEN QB24

Steven Jackson STL RB11

Fred Jackson BUF RB19

Ben Tate HOU RB32

Steven Ridley NE RB47

Bernard Scott CIN RB56

Mewelde Moore PIT RB78

Baron Batch PIT RB79

DJ Ware NYG RB89

Calvin Johnson DET WR1

Demaryius Thomas DEN WR26

Vincent Brown SD WR59

Riley Cooper PHI WR68

Andre Roberts ARI WR77

Preston Parker TB WR84

Josh Morgan SF WR85

Jared Cook TEN TE13

Graham Gano WAS PK2

Cincinnati Bengals D/ST10

BroadwayG

Phillip Rivers SD QB7

Blaine Gabbert JAC QB30

Matt Hasselbeck TEN QB34

Arian Foster HOU RB1

Trent Richardson ROOK RB20

Willis McGahee DEN RB33

Montario Hardesty CLE RB70

Brandon Marshall MIA WR11

Jeremy Maclin PHI WR25

Laurent Robinson DAL WR46

Doug Baldwin SEA WR58

Brandon LaFell CAR WR86

Harry Douglas ATL WR92

Devin Hester CHI WR103

Dustin Keller NYJ TE12

Kellen Winslow TB TE18

Mason Crosby GB PK1

Dan Bailey DAL PK3

Chicago Bears D/ST9

New York Giants D/ST11

ShadowMaster

Eli Manning NYG QB8

Matt Ryan ATL QB12

Ray Rice BAL RB2

BenJarvus Green-Ellis NE RB48

Delone Carter IND RB64

Jonathan Dwyer PIT RB77

John Kuhne GB RB88

Pierre Garcon IND WR37

Austin Collie IND WR38

Lance Moore NO WR45

David Nelson BUF WR57

Plaxico Burress NYJ WR69

Johnny Knox CHI WR76

Jason Witten DAL TE5

Aaron Hernandez NE TE9

Robbie Gould CHI PK17

Josh Scobee JAC PK29

Pittsburgh Steelers D/ST1

New York Jets D/ST8

St. Louis Rams D/ST31

Red Zone

Aaron Rodgers GB QB1

Andrew Luck IND QB25

Brady Quinn DEN QB35

DeMarco Murray DAL RB12

Felix Jones DAL RB46

Christopher Ivory NO RB63

Kahlil Bell CHI RB69

Jason Snelling ATL RB76

Steve Johnson BUF WR24

Torrey Smith BAL WR27

Titus Young DET WR39

Jonathan Baldwin KC WR56

Mike Thomas JAC WR70

Jacoby Jones HOU WR93

Vernon Davis SF TE4

Jermaine Gresham CIN TE11

Alex Henery PHI PK4

Matt Prater DEN PK18

San Francisco 49ers D/ST2

Oakland Raiders D/ST28

snellman

Jay Cutler CHI QB14

Christian Ponder MIN QB23

LeSean McCoy PHI RB3

Adrian Peterson MIN RB13

Rashard Mendenhall PIT RB21

Shane Vereen NE RB71

Bilal Powell NYJ RB80

A.J. Green CIN WR10

Brandon Lloyd STL WR23

Leonard Hankerson WAS WR55

Devery Henderson NO WR67

Jordan Shipley CIN WR71

Mike Williams SEA WR83

Kyle Rudolph MIN TE14

Tony Moeaki KC TE19

Jacob Tamme IND TE34

Stephen Gostkowski NE PK5

Josh Brown STL PK28

Baltimore Ravens D/ST3

Carolina Panthers D/ST27

Commuterman

Drew Brees NO QB2

Joe Flacco BAL QB13

Ryan Matthews SD RB10

Ahmad Bradshaw NYJ RB22

Toby Gerhart MIN RB55

Brandon Jacobs NYG RB62

Ryan Grant GB RB74

Alex Green GB RB87

Vincent Jackson SD WR12

Miles Austin DAL WR22

Mike Williams TB WR40

Santana Moss WAS WR47

Golden Tate SEA WR75

Reuben Randle ROOK WR82

Dallas Clark IND TE17

Evan Moore CLE TE30

Sebastian Janikowski OAK PK6

Adam Vinatieri IND PK27

Houston Texans D/ST4

New England Patriots D/ST12

Domination

Tony Romo DAL QB9

Alex Smith SF QB26

Darren McFadden OAK RB9

Jahvid Best DET RB40

Lamar Miller ROOK RB54

Ryan Williams ARI RB61

Dion Lewis PHI RB75

Percy Harvin MIN WR21

DeSean Jackson PHI WR28

Michael Crabtree SF WR36

Malcolm Floyd SD WR44

Alshon Jeffery ROOK WR72

Jeremy Kerley NYJ WR87

Adrian Arrington NO WR94

Jimmy Graham NO TE1

Zach Miller SEA TE23

Dan Carpenter MIA PK16

Shaun Suisham PIT PK31

Washington Redskins D/ST26

Cleveland Browns D/ST29

Nugget

Josh Freeman TB QB15

Mark Sanchez NYJ QB22

Maurice Jones-Drew JAC RB4

Frank Gore SF RB8

Jacquizz Rodgers ATL RB57

Deji Karim JAC RB72

Tim Hightower WAS RB86

Jordy Nelson GB WR13

Antonio Brown PIT WR20

Justin Blackmon ROOK WR35

Mario Manningham NYG WR54

Early Doucet ARI WR66

Michael Jenkins MIN WR91

Stephen Hill ROOK WR95

Tony Gonzalez ATL TE10

Heath Miller PIT TE20

David Akers SF PK7

Mike Nugent CIN PK15

Kansas City Chiefs D/ST13

Dallas Cowboys D/ST25

menobrown

Robert Griffen III ROOK QB18

Peyton Manning IND QB21

Matt Forte CHI RB5

Roy Helu WAS RB24

Mikel Leshoure DET RB41

Doug Martin ROOK RB53

Rashad Jennings JAC RB73

Hakeem Nicks NYG WR9

Marques Colston NO WR14

Jacoby Ford OAK WR48

Emmanuel Sanders PIT WR60

Kendall Wright ROOK WR65

Steve Smith PHI WR90

Fred Davis WAS TE8

Rob Housler ARI TE33

Martellus Bennett DAL WR31

Garrett Hartley NO PK8

Rob Bironas TEN PK14

Arizona Cardinals D/ST14

Jacksonville Jaguars D/ST24

OldMilwaukee

Sam Bradford STL QB16

Ryan Fitzpatrick BUF QB20

Jonathan Stewart CAR RB23

Chris Wells ARI RB31

Donald Brown IND RB49

James Starks GB RB52

Chris Polk ROOK RB65

Mike Wallace PIT WR8

Julio Jones ATL WR15

Kenny Britt TEN WR19

Braylon Edwards ??? WR74

Lee Evans BAL WR81

Roy Williams CHI WR96

Donald Jones BUF WR101

Rob Gronkowski NE TE2

Lance Kendricks STL TE24

Rian Lindell BUF PK19

Nick Folk NYJ PK26

Detroit Lions D/ST7

Buffalo Bills D/ST15

restless natives

Carson Palmer OAK QB17

Tim Tebow DEN QB19

Matt Cassell KC QB27

Chris Johnson TEN RB6

Marshawn Lynch SEA RB14

C.J. Spiller BUF RB25

Kevin Smith DET RB66

Marion Barber CHI RB81

Greg Jennings GB WR7

Dwayne Bowe KC WR18

Denarius Moore OAK WR34

Earl Bennett CHI WR61

Randy Moss ??? WR80

Tommy Streeter ROOK WR102

Ed Dickson BAL TE22

Scott Chandler BUF TE26

Ryan Longwell MIN PK20

Billy Cundiff BAL PK25

Seattle Seahawks D/ST16

Minnesota Vikings D/ST23

krsone21

Tom Brady NE QB3

Matt Flynn GB QB28

Jamaal Charles KC RB7

Darren Sproles NO RB15

Mike Tolbert SD RB45

Evan Royster WAS RB68

Isaiah Pead ROOK WR82

Santonio Holmes NYJ WR29

Anquan Boldin BAL WR33

Greg Little CLE WR41

Michael Floyd ROOK WR62

Eric Decker DEN WR64

Danny Amendola STL WR78

Eddie Royal DEN WR100

Jermichael Finley GB TE7

Greg Olsen CAR TE21

Connor Barth TB PK21

Steven Hauschka SEA PK24

Atlanta Falcons D/ST17

Denver Broncos D/ST22

Phenix

Matthew Stafford DET QB4

Colt McCoy CLE QB31

Reggie Bush MIA RB18

LaGarrette Blount TB RB26

Daniel Thomas MIA RB50

Cedric Benson CIN RB51

LaMichael James ROOK RB67

Javon Ringer TEN RB85

Dez Bryant DAL WR16

Sidney Rice SEA WR32

Robert Meachum NO WR42

James Jones GB WR43

Steve Breaston KC WR89

Mohammed Sanu ROOK WR97

Antonio Gates SD TE3

Kevin Boss OAK TE27

Jason Hanson DET PK13

Lawrence Tynes NYG PK22

Green Bay Packers D/ST6

New Orleans Saints D/ST21

oldfatguy

Cam Newton CAR QB5

Andy Dalton CIN QB18

Mark Ingram NO RB17

Michael Bush OAK RB27

Kendall Hunter SF RB44

Marcel Reece OAK RB74

Jackie Battle KC RB84

Victor Cruz NYG WR6

Darius Heyward-Bey OAK WR31

Arrelious Benn TB WR49

Randall Cobb GB WR53

Damian Williams TEN WR63

Devin Aromashodu MIN WR89

David Gettis CAR WR99

Brandon Pettigrew DET TE6

Mercedes Lewis JAC TE25

John Kasay NO PK9

Matt Bryant ATL PK12

Miami Dolphins D/ST18

Tennessee Titans D/ST20

Sinrman

Matt Schaub HOU QB10

Tarvaris Jackson SEA QB33

Michael Turner ATL RB16

DeAngelo Williams CAR RB30

Pierre Thomas NO RB43

Dexter McCluster KC RB58

Joseph Addai IND RB60

Andre Johnson HOU WR2

Roddy White ATL WR5

Reggie Wayne IND WR30

Nate Burleson DET WR51

Jabar Gaffney WAS WR52

Davone Bess MIA WR79

Brent Celek PHI TE15

Tony Scheffler DET TE29

Ben Watson CLE TE32

Nate Kaeding SD PK10

Phil Dawson CLE PK30

San Diego Chargers D/ST19

Indianapolis Colts D/ST32

AhrnCityPahnder

Ben Roethlisberger PIT QB11

Kevin Kolb ARI QB29

Shonn Greene NYJ RB28

Peyton Hillis CLE RB29

Isaac Redman PIT RB42

David Wilson ROOK RB59

Tashard Choice BUF RB83

Wes Welker NE WR3

Larry Fitzgerald ARI WR4

Steve Smith CAR WR17

Nate Washington TEN WR50

Deion Branch NE WR73

Jason Avant PHI WR88

Brian Hartline MIA WR98

Owen Daniels HOU TE16

Dennis Pitta BAL TE28

Neil Rackers HOU PK11

Ryan Succop KC PK23

Philadelphia Eagles D/ST5

Tampa Bay Buccaneers D/ST30

 
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Glad to get foster at 2. I was a skeptic coming into this season with a bum knee, but that offense is dominant in a weak division.

 
'BroadwayG said:
Glad to get foster at 2. I was a skeptic coming into this season with a bum knee, but that offense is dominant in a weak division.
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When Foster is on the field, he is a beast. :thumbup:
 
'krsone21 said:
Lets try and keep the draft thread clean and use this thread for draft chatter. :thumbup:
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Thanks for setting up this thread and thanks to Domination for setting up the draft thread. Look forward to the competition.
 
glad to be here for a survivior, saw them done before here and glad to be taking part.

good luck and happy drafting to all.

 
I will do my best to keep up w/ the draft thread, but might only be able to update a few times a day.

I almost always have access if someone needs to send a PM or text

Good luck to everyone, I love drafting this early & seeing a variety of different opinions.

 
Couple of surprises so far

1) No scathing criticism of taking Rodgers first round (or even Superman with the Flash as his WR1). Usually the heaping is automatic.

2) Graham is awesome, but like Witten, size and hands rather than agility and speed give him the mismatches. If the playbook is the same as 2012, he will be great, not sure 1.07 great. If defenses adjust, could be trimmed down alot. Also, Brees is like Manning, a great QB with no viable backup. Chase Daniels is a hard worker, but has not been utilized in game. No idea of the drop off that might occur. Wayne is phenomenal, but the loss of Peyton dropped him out of the wr1 tier.

3) Forte going at 1.09, I thought this season's performance would catapault him to 1.05. Was he overused, setting him up for return to mean (average) or injury? Stats are not in his favor.

4) Brees at 1.06. Moore had a resurgence, at Meachem's expense, MC played well, and Graham was awesome. Will run game gear up this season though? He was a second round pick in my thoughts, maybe third.

Of course, this last season was my worst in FF. Maybe I am off my game.

 
'RedZone said:
Couple of surprises so far1) No scathing criticism of taking Rodgers first round (or even Superman with the Flash as his WR1). Usually the heaping is automatic.2) Graham is awesome, but like Witten, size and hands rather than agility and speed give him the mismatches. If the playbook is the same as 2012, he will be great, not sure 1.07 great. If defenses adjust, could be trimmed down alot. Also, Brees is like Manning, a great QB with no viable backup. Chase Daniels is a hard worker, but has not been utilized in game. No idea of the drop off that might occur. Wayne is phenomenal, but the loss of Peyton dropped him out of the wr1 tier.3) Forte going at 1.09, I thought this season's performance would catapault him to 1.05. Was he overused, setting him up for return to mean (average) or injury? Stats are not in his favor.4) Brees at 1.06. Moore had a resurgence, at Meachem's expense, MC played well, and Graham was awesome. Will run game gear up this season though? He was a second round pick in my thoughts, maybe third.Of course, this last season was my worst in FF. Maybe I am off my game.
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I like your assessment. But I think that alot of the mentality has changed from previous years. There are very few RB1s, and I don't think that there are the WR deserving of going early 1st as they have in the 2nd. QBs are extremely safe picks, and normally always go wearlier in WSLs. (WSL2 - 5 in 1st rd), and I think the scoring system lends to TEs going early.My thinking on Graham is this... 2 points per reception is huge, and even if he goes down a few, I still think that he will be a main part of 1 of the most potent offenses in the league. I liked him over Gronk because I think that Hernandez could take some of Gronk's production, and won't be surprised if NE brings in a WR to improve their WR corp. I had my Top 6 exactly as they went, and had to debate between Graham and MJD for my pick.
 
'Domination said:
'RedZone said:
Couple of surprises so far1) No scathing criticism of taking Rodgers first round (or even Superman with the Flash as his WR1). Usually the heaping is automatic.2) Graham is awesome, but like Witten, size and hands rather than agility and speed give him the mismatches. If the playbook is the same as 2012, he will be great, not sure 1.07 great. If defenses adjust, could be trimmed down alot. Also, Brees is like Manning, a great QB with no viable backup. Chase Daniels is a hard worker, but has not been utilized in game. No idea of the drop off that might occur. Wayne is phenomenal, but the loss of Peyton dropped him out of the wr1 tier.3) Forte going at 1.09, I thought this season's performance would catapault him to 1.05. Was he overused, setting him up for return to mean (average) or injury? Stats are not in his favor.4) Brees at 1.06. Moore had a resurgence, at Meachem's expense, MC played well, and Graham was awesome. Will run game gear up this season though? He was a second round pick in my thoughts, maybe third.Of course, this last season was my worst in FF. Maybe I am off my game.
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I like your assessment. But I think that alot of the mentality has changed from previous years. There are very few RB1s, and I don't think that there are the WR deserving of going early 1st as they have in the 2nd. QBs are extremely safe picks, and normally always go wearlier in WSLs. (WSL2 - 5 in 1st rd), and I think the scoring system lends to TEs going early.My thinking on Graham is this... 2 points per reception is huge, and even if he goes down a few, I still think that he will be a main part of 1 of the most potent offenses in the league. I liked him over Gronk because I think that Hernandez could take some of Gronk's production, and won't be surprised if NE brings in a WR to improve their WR corp. I had my Top 6 exactly as they went, and had to debate between Graham and MJD for my pick.
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I'm going to struggle drafting next to Domination. My short list before his pick. 1. Graham 2. MJD.It will probably take all day to get everyone back to the site after the 24 hour crash. Hopefully a little patience will go a long way and everyone will be back in the swing for the 2nd - 22nd rounds.
 
'RedZone said:
Couple of surprises so far1) No scathing criticism of taking Rodgers first round (or even Superman with the Flash as his WR1). Usually the heaping is automatic.2) Graham is awesome, but like Witten, size and hands rather than agility and speed give him the mismatches. If the playbook is the same as 2012, he will be great, not sure 1.07 great. If defenses adjust, could be trimmed down alot. Also, Brees is like Manning, a great QB with no viable backup. Chase Daniels is a hard worker, but has not been utilized in game. No idea of the drop off that might occur. Wayne is phenomenal, but the loss of Peyton dropped him out of the wr1 tier.3) Forte going at 1.09, I thought this season's performance would catapault him to 1.05. Was he overused, setting him up for return to mean (average) or injury? Stats are not in his favor.4) Brees at 1.06. Moore had a resurgence, at Meachem's expense, MC played well, and Graham was awesome. Will run game gear up this season though? He was a second round pick in my thoughts, maybe third.Of course, this last season was my worst in FF. Maybe I am off my game.
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I think last season really sealed the deal as showing the NFL is has officially become a pass happy league....and why wouldn't it with all the rules designed to encourage throwing the ball.....drafting a QB early is not only a safe pick for injury puposes etc, but grabbing one of the uber elite pretty much keeps you in it most weeks in this format....
 
5000+ yards and 40+ TDs as the 5th QB taken?

and did I just take a Lion QB in the first round of a draft?

 
I was happy to get Tom Brady. I didn't think I had a shot at him. Of course the only reason why I was able to get him was because a couple of people timed out. I will count my blessings. :clap:

 
We have had our 2nd timeout and need a replacement.

i have already talked to Bass, and ACP. The pick should be in shortly.

 
Didn't mean to go RB-RB, but that was were the value fell in my eyes. MJD and Gore aren't a bad anchor for a 16 team draft.

 
P Rivers

A Foster

B Marshall

Was hoping to pick up a TE at the turn but absolutely no value. Rivers put up some decent numbers this year despite looking like garbage. Marshall is the only show in town, at least in February on a team desperate for a solid QB.

 
Going way out on a limb with the Homer pick of AD. But that is how these are won.

I think he will be ready barring any setbacks and will be on a mission next year to show that it didn't affect him = running like a beast.

 
Aaron Rodgers - QB1

Vernon Davis - TE1

Demarco Murray - RB1

Fairly solid, especially if Murray is doing well in recovery post ankle fracture. Don't see anywhere that he has had any setbacks, or that it was a complicated repair. I'd like him to be a bit more involved in the passing game, and likely he will be. Rare for rookie RBs to really pick up pass protection at this level. If I can get a good kicker next round (just kidding), actually seems to be a lot of tier two talent, not a lot of tier one in the RB field.

 
I'll be off and on the next three days with travel and meetings. Anyone around a lot who likes to take lists?

 
Tom Brady QB NE

Jamaal Charles RB KC

Darren Sproles RB NO

I picked Tom Brady in the 1st. Picking Tom Brady early in PDSL Gamma last year helped me to win it last year, so I figured might as well try picking Brady again. I'm now a firm believer in getting one of the top notch QB's early in the survivor leagues.

I went into this not looking to take RB's early, matter of fact I thought it would be 4th round at the earliest before I looked at a RB, but I couldn't pass up on Charles in the 2nd and Sproles in the third. Just last year Jamaal Charles was being picked in the top 5 of the survivor drafts. If Charles can come even close to his 2010 production then Charles just may be the steal of the draft.

When getting to my third pick I was fully prepared to pick something other then another RB but when Sproles was still on the board I couldn't pass him up. Sproles had over 80 receptions last year, which is perfect for PPR leagues. I thought Sproles would be taken in the second round so I wasn't expecting to land him in the third.

 
Calvin Johnson

Michael Vick

Steven Jackson

I'm a believer in Megatron's end to the season and have been drafting CJ in the first round for 3 years running now. But never at 1.01 before

I liked Vick as a potential QB1. Eagles were 6-2 coming down the stretch and Vick was just behind Brady and Cam over the last 5 weeks of the season

Broke my own personal rules about betting early on older RBs, but cannot pass on a perennial 1000 yard rusher in what should be an improved offense and a Jeff Fischer running attack.

I'm also noticing that there are no longer and standards about "going RB early" or any other such trend. Fantasy is becoming a truly position independent game. 2 TEs have become 1st round picks and 2 TEs were 2nd round picks. I remember a time too long ago when I went for the stud TEs early and that was in R4/R5.

 
Rosters updated on 1st post through round 3.

If you notice any errors please let me know, thank you.

 
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I don't really see a weak team yet, ACP is certainly outside the box, but plenty of time to catch up in other positions.

 
P Rivers

A Foster

T Richardson

B Marshall

J Maclin

WR got picked pretty clean in rounds 3 and 4. Took Maclin to avoid a lineup train wreck at WR. A ton of options available as I passed the chip for the next long wait. It was hard to pass on quite a few of them that I am sure will be snapped up shortly. Settled for a draft gamble in Richardson.

 
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4.14 Shadow Master - Aaron Hernandez, NE, TE 9 wow....like candy from a baby.....SOD and its not even close
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I am quite certain that the SOD will not be drafted in the first 6 rounds.
 
'BroadwayG said:
'Stinkin Ref said:
4.14 Shadow Master - Aaron Hernandez, NE, TE 9 wow....like candy from a baby.....SOD and its not even close
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I am quite certain that the SOD will not be drafted in the first 6 rounds.
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someone may come out of nowhere and have a great season when all is said and done becoming the SOD at that point.....but as things stand RIGHT NOW this is the steal of the draft.....4th highest scoring player (non QB/RB)....behind only Gronk, Graham, and Megatron.....averaged over 21 points a game in this format.....at 4.14.....if those other 3 are considered 1st round talent, which they have been in all WSL's....then Hernandez is definately 2nd round worthy talent.....making him a steal in the late 4th, practically 5th round.....the fact that he was the 9th TE taken (6 spots lower than where he finished)...while not unbelievable....is a little head scratching....especially after some of the guys taken and definately after Fred Davis who IIRC is facing a 4 game suspension or something.....Punch should be kicked out of the league for that alone.... ;)
 
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'Stinkin Ref said:
'BroadwayG said:
'Stinkin Ref said:
4.14 Shadow Master - Aaron Hernandez, NE, TE 9 wow....like candy from a baby.....SOD and its not even close
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I am quite certain that the SOD will not be drafted in the first 6 rounds.
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someone may come out of nowhere and have a great season when all is said and done becoming the SOD at that point.....but as things stand RIGHT NOW this is the steal of the draft.....4th highest scoring player (non QB)....behind only Gronk, Graham, and Megatron.....averaged over 21 points a game in this format.....at 4.14.....if those other 3 are considered 1st round talent, which they have been in all WSL's....then Hernandez is definately 2nd round worthy talent.....making him a steal in the late 4th, practically 5th round.....the fact that he was the 9th TE taken (6 spots lower than where he finished)...while not unbelievable....is a little head scratching....especially after some of the guys taken and definately after Fred Davis who IIRC is facing a 4 game suspension or something.....Punch should be kicked out of the league for that alone.... ;)
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Davis already served his suspension and was a top 5 TE last year when he was on the field. He's also the virtual go-to guy in his offense while Hernandez is #3 at best (and the Pats #1 need in the offseason is an outside WR and more mouths to feed). I did debate between the two of them but I like Davis's upside. I worry about players after a PED suspension getting of the juice and not being the same but with FD it was just a little bud. Worst case with Davis; He lays off the weed and has a breakout season. ;)
 
fair enough...thougt I saw somewhere that he was looking at more games...

he was actually #6 but no big deal...and as far as upside goes....he is a guy coming off suspension and he isn't even on a team right now, so trying to determine his "upside" at this point is impossible...unless you are assuming he goes back to a team that he just let down at the end of last year.....

both Welker and Gronk were healthy all year last year and Hernandez was still the 4th highest weekly scoring non QB/RB player in this format behind those two and Megatron....so he still gets his (and Hernandez missed 2 games).....even if they bring somebody in will it be much more than what Branch, 85, and the rest put together...who knows...and while it is easy to say he is a #3, he is not your typical #3...he ain't Jason Avant or Robert Meachem....

Davis is a free agent....so who knows where he ends up and what his role would be.....will Shanny want a guy back that he can't count on....Hernandez seems locked in to a good situation.......so while he may be a #3 he still put up way better numbers in every category than the virtual go to guy who may not even be back and could end up playing 3rd, 4th, 5th or bench fiddle somewhere else ...

but thats why these are fun as it generates early discussion.....good luck

 
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Shadowmaster - 2 QB's and 2 TE's thru 5 rounds? Very aggressive - will be interested to see how you come back in the middle rounds. Lots of points guaranteed to be on the bench each week.

 
'Stinkin Ref said:
fair enough...thougt I saw somewhere that he was looking at more games...he was actually #6 but no big deal...and as far as upside goes....he is a guy coming off suspension and he isn't even on a team right now, so trying to determine his "upside" at this point is impossible...unless you are assuming he goes back to a team that he just let down at the end of last year.....both Welker and Gronk were healthy all year last year and Hernandez was still the 4th highest weekly scoring non QB player in this format behind those two and Megatron....so he still gets his (and Hernandez missed 2 games).....even if they bring somebody in will it be much more than what Branch, 85, and the rest put together...who knows...and while it is easy to say he is a #3, he is not your typical #3...he ain't Jason Avant or Robert Meachem....Davis is a free agent....so who knows where he ends up and what his role would be.....will Shanny want a guy back that he can't count on....Hernandez seems locked in to a good situation.......so while he may be a #3 he still put up way better numbers in every category than the virtual go to guy who may not even be back and could end up playing 3rd, 4th, 5th or bench fiddle somewhere else ...but thats why these are fun as it generates early discussion.....good luck
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Ya, definitely. Who knows what happens. If this was one of my money leagues I go Hernandez all day since he's definitely safer. There are rumors that Freddie could get the franchise tag this year, essentially putting him in a contract year again. Hopefully this time he stays off the sticky icky. As for the Pats, I'd be shocked if they didn't bring in Brandon Lloyd. He knows the system, loves playing for Mcd. and Bellichick loves getting aging vets for a discount. It's not the Pats MO to sign a big price player like V-Jax but Lloyd fits perfectly IMO. I live in NE and would love Lloyd here...and so would my dynasty team that has Lloyd. :) To me, the great thing about free leagues is trying different angles.Good luck to you as well.
 
Seeing as how we have already had almost 1/4 of our league time out.

I figured that I would let everyone know that I am normally around if you want/need to send a PM.

 
P Rivers

A Foster

T Richardson

W McGahee

B Marshall

J Maclin

D Keller

Decisions are so difficult with 28 picks between my selections. Seems like one position just gets hammered in there, and I have to correctly guess which one. I had a little buyer's remorse with Richardson, so I felt the need to get one of the last RBs assured of a decent workload.

 
Punch has missed his round 6 and 7 picks - he is now on a 1 hour clock. When do we consider a replacement?

 
'Punch said:
'Stinkin Ref said:
'BroadwayG said:
'Stinkin Ref said:
4.14 Shadow Master - Aaron Hernandez, NE, TE 9 wow....like candy from a baby.....SOD and its not even close
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I am quite certain that the SOD will not be drafted in the first 6 rounds.
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someone may come out of nowhere and have a great season when all is said and done becoming the SOD at that point.....but as things stand RIGHT NOW this is the steal of the draft.....4th highest scoring player (non QB)....behind only Gronk, Graham, and Megatron.....averaged over 21 points a game in this format.....at 4.14.....if those other 3 are considered 1st round talent, which they have been in all WSL's....then Hernandez is definately 2nd round worthy talent.....making him a steal in the late 4th, practically 5th round.....the fact that he was the 9th TE taken (6 spots lower than where he finished)...while not unbelievable....is a little head scratching....especially after some of the guys taken and definately after Fred Davis who IIRC is facing a 4 game suspension or something.....Punch should be kicked out of the league for that alone.... ;)
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Davis already served his suspension and was a top 5 TE last year when he was on the field. He's also the virtual go-to guy in his offense while Hernandez is #3 at best (and the Pats #1 need in the offseason is an outside WR and more mouths to feed). I did debate between the two of them but I like Davis's upside. I worry about players after a PED suspension getting of the juice and not being the same but with FD it was just a little bud. Worst case with Davis; He lays off the weed and has a breakout season. ;)
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It was only rumored to be weed, not confirmed. There is a good chance he tested positive for performance enhancers and he'll drop back to earth next year.
 
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