I Am the Stig 106 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Wk12-17: 12 ppg minimum = WR1 with upside to be elite #1 WR over that stretch. He did 18.5 ppg with 3 QBs last year, 2 of them worse than Hoyer. How did it work out with Dez and Weedon? Its amazing when you think about the kind of talent a WR has to have doing what he did with 3 different QBs with Hoyer's talent level or worse last season. Outside of Megatron, who else could have done that, Julio/Green/Marshall?Even if you discount his 18.5 ppg production by 35% (discounting expected pass attempts this year vs last year) he is WR1. Another line of reasoning says if they have an effective running game it will open up the offense for more big plays to him. Also keep in mind that right now they have one of the worst WR corps in the league and a decent running game so that will skew pass attempts lower over the first 11 weeks of the season. This changes with him coming back. They also have a new offense designed to setup passes to their WR1 for big plays. So I predict WR1 minimum with elite upside.I'm only concerned about a snap limit in order to protect him. I'd hate to see the guy come back, get all jacked up and pull a hammy because of the time off. But he demonstrated last year how efficient he is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T J 640 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I have Gordon, but for my part, I'm definitely tempering my expectations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,386 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Browns OC Kyle Shanahan said he "can't wait" until Josh Gordon is back from suspension next week."I can’t wait to get him back, looking forward to it," Shanahan said. "And as soon as he’s ready to go, we’ll make sure to work to get him the ball." Gordon has been around the team facility the past couple months, working out and catching passes off the Jugs machine, but he's eligible to return to the team Monday and get his first practice in Wednesday. Expect Gordon to slide right back in at X receiver, a position the Shanahan offense has targeted heavily in the past. He should be an immediate WR1.somebody catch me, please... Im drifting away... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
georg013 344 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Browns OC Kyle Shanahan said he "can't wait" until Josh Gordon is back from suspension next week."I can’t wait to get him back, looking forward to it," Shanahan said. "And as soon as he’s ready to go, we’ll make sure to work to get him the ball." Gordon has been around the team facility the past couple months, working out and catching passes off the Jugs machine, but he's eligible to return to the team Monday and get his first practice in Wednesday. Expect Gordon to slide right back in at X receiver, a position the Shanahan offense has targeted heavily in the past. He should be an immediate WR1.somebody catch me, please... Im drifting away...This is what I came in to report but I see that Fly has taken care of that for me. Was debating whether to give Watkins one more start but after last night's disappointment (and this blurb), I'm all in with Gordon!!!Hate to do it but....Calvin JohnsonDemaryius ThomasAlshon JefferyJOSH GORDON OH YEAH! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weebs 37 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I have Megatron, Sanders, and Marshall....Is it worth giving up Gordon and Peterson for foster if my rb2 is weak? I really want a seat on the train.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Bradcanon 1,434 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LionOfGosforth 183 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Julio, Brown, Hilton, Tate and JG!! Can only start 3 though 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gopher State 959 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Really looking forward to how much Gordon helps the Browns running game. This team loves to run. Can't put eight in the box. Big bump to West and company 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePhatty 694 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Not me, I have Jordy and 4 piles of poop.With Gordon coming back I'll only need to flex one of the poop piles instead of two and maybe I can sneak into the playoffs as the last seed. Life is good. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pbandy1 579 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Not quite but I'm definitely looking good at WR. Have Thomas, Hilton, Watkins and Edelman (1 PPR). And of course Gordon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rimez 31 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Personally i have never seen wr/wr drafting work at winning a league, and in this thread seems some people when wr/wr/wr. reminds me of the talking heads that are always excited about going heavy wr early, then half way through the season they are out of it because their rbs are waiver wire fodder while streaming qbs.*every hipster podcast* "Really like demaryius this week and playing him alongside julio and jeffrey in one of my leagues." "Oh yeah how are you doing in that league?" "Last place in points with 2 wins but man my team is so good it makes no sense..." lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I Am the Stig 106 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Personally i have never seen wr/wr drafting work at winning a league, and in this thread seems some people when wr/wr/wr. reminds me of the talking heads that are always excited about going heavy wr early, then half way through the season they are out of it because their rbs are waiver wire fodder while streaming qbs.*every hipster podcast* "Really like demaryius this week and playing him alongside julio and jeffrey in one of my leagues." "Oh yeah how are you doing in that league?" "Last place in points with 2 wins but man my team is so good it makes no sense..." lolWR, WR, WR is ill advised but true stud WR's are harder to come by. You can always grab a RB later. Also, half of last seasons top 10 RBs will not be top ten this year. There is more risk with RBs early in the draft. The dude who grabbed Ingram and/or Demarco Murray is laughing at the guy who grabbed McCoy.But the Harvin or Patterson owner isn't laughing at the Thomas owner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Archer 106 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Is anyone benching him next week to see how does after the long layoff or no? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I Am the Stig 106 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Is anyone benching him next week to see how does after the long layoff or no?I am. I have a first round bye I need secure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnmplayer 447 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Personally i have never seen wr/wr drafting work at winning a league, and in this thread seems some people when wr/wr/wr. reminds me of the talking heads that are always excited about going heavy wr early, then half way through the season they are out of it because their rbs are waiver wire fodder while streaming qbs.*every hipster podcast* "Really like demaryius this week and playing him alongside julio and jeffrey in one of my leagues." "Oh yeah how are you doing in that league?" "Last place in points with 2 wins but man my team is so good it makes no sense..." lolWR, WR, WR is ill advised but true stud WR's are harder to come by. You can always grab a RB later. Also, half of last seasons top 10 RBs will not be top ten this year. There is more risk with RBs early in the draft. The dude who grabbed Ingram and/or Demarco Murray is laughing at the guy who grabbed McCoy.But the Harvin or Patterson owner isn't laughing at the Thomas owner.Last years top 12 WR (I play in 12 team league so these were WR1) in my PPR league that are currently top12 this year:DTA. BrownDezThat's it. 25% hit. 50% is looking pretty good. ETA: The guy that didn't draft a WR until the 5th round and went all Rookie WR or new situations (E Sanders) killed it this season grabbing Elite TE/QB/RB early. Edited November 14, 2014 by mnmplayer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mquinnjr 3,036 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Is anyone benching him next week to see how does after the long layoff or no? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LawFitz 1,071 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 ManningIngramForsettShoelaceMcKinnonAPDezHarvinCooksODBGordonGatesWe have the technology. It can be done.:ear to the ground, hand on the wire: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tjnc09 2,712 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 40+ yard receptions:Washington - 14Green Bay -11Pittsburgh - 10Denver - 9Detroit - 9Jacksonville - 9Cleveland - 8Philadphia - 8I was really surprised (excited?) to see Cleveland tied for 7th in this category. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mquinnjr 3,036 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 ManningIngramForsettShoelaceMcKinnonAPDezHarvinCooksODBGordonGatesWe have the technology. It can be done.:ear to the ground, hand on the wire:12 team standard keep 3 up to n+3 years at year of acquisition round keeper league: PeytonEllington (kept)MathewsMillerMasonHydeJ. BellGordonBrownCobb (kept)CooksGraham (kept, final year)Teams can sell out and trade future picks for current players. Tanking, if you will, but it's effectively balanced since it's present for future value. If this team can't win out, I don't even know. Gordon is flexing in this scenario. Hard to top that, and Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mquinnjr 3,036 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 40+ yard receptions:Washington - 14Green Bay -11Pittsburgh - 10Denver - 9Detroit - 9Jacksonville - 9Cleveland - 8Philadphia - 8I was really surprised (excited?) to see Cleveland tied for 7th in this category.Yeah, that stat is about to skyrocket. Can't wait for it to be on the back of our JG12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 15,766 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 ripped, shredded, AND cut. damn. he's also built. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,386 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 OC genius Kyle Shanahan has a chub in his pants re: the return of Gordon. Says he cant wait to unleash him. On one of the most underrated offenses on the NFL (without Gordon)...and still ya'll talking about benching him?woof. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urbanhack 12,168 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Personally i have never seen wr/wr drafting work at winning a league, and in this thread seems some people when wr/wr/wr. reminds me of the talking heads that are always excited about going heavy wr early, then half way through the season they are out of it because their rbs are waiver wire fodder while streaming qbs.*every hipster podcast* "Really like demaryius this week and playing him alongside julio and jeffrey in one of my leagues." "Oh yeah how are you doing in that league?" "Last place in points with 2 wins but man my team is so good it makes no sense..." lolDrafted Calvin, Jordy and Antonio 1, 2, 3 and am tied for first place at 7-3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lod01 905 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Redraft - Jordy, TY Hilton & Gordon with K. Benjamin going to find a seat on the bench. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 15,766 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 This had become a useful thread again. We're not going back.Chest thumping, claims of victory, baiting others, insults, calling people haters. Don't do it. If you can't limit your post to football and fantasy football implications for Josh Gordon going forward, don't post.What are you thoughts on Gordon ROS?Moderate expectations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Bradcanon 1,434 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Not me, I have Jordy and 4 piles of poop.With Gordon coming back I'll only need to flex one of the poop piles instead of two and maybe I can sneak into the playoffs as the last seed.Life is good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John 14:6 45 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Is anyone benching him next week to see how does after the long layoff or no?I think I will, starting Calvin and Evans instead... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Gator 8,334 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Personally i have never seen wr/wr drafting work at winning a league, and in this thread seems some people when wr/wr/wr. reminds me of the talking heads that are always excited about going heavy wr early, then half way through the season they are out of it because their rbs are waiver wire fodder while streaming qbs.*every hipster podcast* "Really like demaryius this week and playing him alongside julio and jeffrey in one of my leagues." "Oh yeah how are you doing in that league?" "Last place in points with 2 wins but man my team is so good it makes no sense..." lolDrafted Calvin, Jordy and Antonio 1, 2, 3 and am tied for first place at 7-3. Thanks for the update Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Bradcanon 1,434 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Went ahead and bought a Free Gordon shirt for the hell of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rimez 31 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Personally i have never seen wr/wr drafting work at winning a league, and in this thread seems some people when wr/wr/wr. reminds me of the talking heads that are always excited about going heavy wr early, then half way through the season they are out of it because their rbs are waiver wire fodder while streaming qbs.*every hipster podcast* "Really like demaryius this week and playing him alongside julio and jeffrey in one of my leagues." "Oh yeah how are you doing in that league?" "Last place in points with 2 wins but man my team is so good it makes no sense..." lol Drafted Calvin, Jordy and Antonio 1, 2, 3 and am tied for first place at 7-3. How? All 3 were gone in my 12 team league by pick 22... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
One 283 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I can't wait to insert Gordon. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alkahsu 30 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Personally i have never seen wr/wr drafting work at winning a league, and in this thread seems some people when wr/wr/wr. reminds me of the talking heads that are always excited about going heavy wr early, then half way through the season they are out of it because their rbs are waiver wire fodder while streaming qbs.*every hipster podcast* "Really like demaryius this week and playing him alongside julio and jeffrey in one of my leagues." "Oh yeah how are you doing in that league?" "Last place in points with 2 wins but man my team is so good it makes no sense..." lolNot that anyone cares too much, but.....I had the 10th pick in a 10 team redraft and went Dez/Ball then Brown/Cobb. I also got Sanders later in the draft. I'm 7-3 and 2nd in points scored. Would be 8-2 if I didn't bench Dez last week. I did get Forsett off the WW, but my RB2 has been less than spectacular all year. Hopefully that changes with Jennings coming back. Edited November 14, 2014 by Alkahsu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
identikit 1,389 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I can't wait to insert Gordon.Huh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbyn2022 5 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 My concern with Josh Gordon isn't if he'll be a WR1 or high WR2 it's if he can stay healthy and not pull a hammy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LawFitz 1,071 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 My concern with Josh Gordon isn't if he'll be a WR1 or high WR2 it's if he can stay healthy and not pull a hammy...From the Gordon/AP thread - Here's a pretty good article from today on Gordon: http://www.cleveland...sh_gordons.html per Donte Whitner: "He's just been here working hard. He doesn't really say much. A lot of times he has his headphones on. But if you go out there into the indoor [practice field] and you see him working with the strength and conditioning coaches, he's working really hard -- a lot of sprints, a lot of working out. So hopefully he's able to come back and not miss a beat." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RGIII HTTR 57 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Any Gordon owner at this point is like a kid on X-Mas eve...week 12 (X-Mas) is almost here!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ladsud 167 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 The NFL has confirmed that Josh Gordon will resume football activities "without restriction" when his suspension expires on Monday.In other words, he'll be all systems go for Week 12 against the Falcons, and beyond. "(He) will be clear to resume normal activities without restriction," AFC director of football communications Jon Zimmer said. Gordon will immediately slot back in as a WR1 in fantasy leagues. We'll get a better feel for whether Gordon is a high- or low-end WR1 when we see how he's utilized and how often he's targeted. The Browns are playing run-heavy football this year, after leading the NFL in 2013 pass attempts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,289 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 My future is in his hands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave RL 47 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) I like this part of that article:"His mindset is he wants to come back and do something special in the last six games,'' said Whitner. "I don't know if that's go for 1,000 yards in six games or something like that, but I know he wants to do something special. I know he missed two games last year and went over 1,600 (yards), so he can do some special things.Can't wait to see... Edited November 14, 2014 by Dave RL 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
georg013 344 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Everyone in this thread seems to have 5 top 5 WRs Personally i have never seen wr/wr drafting work at winning a league, and in this thread seems some people when wr/wr/wr. reminds me of the talking heads that are always excited about going heavy wr early, then half way through the season they are out of it because their rbs are waiver wire fodder while streaming qbs.*every hipster podcast* "Really like demaryius this week and playing him alongside julio and jeffrey in one of my leagues." "Oh yeah how are you doing in that league?" "Last place in points with 2 wins but man my team is so good it makes no sense..." lolOne of the guys in my league has McCoy and Gio and is at risk of missing the playoffs. Yipes! I won't even mention Peterson. I guess this makes a little sense for guys playing redraft. But in dynasty, this is not a big deal, when you know what you are doing. Edited November 14, 2014 by georg013 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnmplayer 447 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I like this part of that article:"His mindset is he wants to come back and do something special in the last six games,'' said Whitner. "I don't know if that's go for 1,000 yards in six games or something like that, but I know he wants to do something special. I know he missed two games last year and went over 1,600 (yards), so he can do some special things.Can't wait to see... Something special? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,386 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'm stretching all weekend.. Yall know I gotta go back to work Monday right? ? #gettinloose-Josh Gordon, Twitter .... For those of you worried bout his hammy upon return 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,289 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I'm stretching all weekend.. Yall know I gotta go back to work Monday right? ? #gettinloose-Josh Gordon, Twitter .... For those of you worried bout his hammy upon returnWhat's your drink of choice next weekend? I'm buying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,386 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) I'm stretching all weekend.. Yall know I gotta go back to work Monday right? ? #gettinloose-Josh Gordon, Twitter .... For those of you worried bout his hammy upon returnWhat's your drink of choice next weekend? I'm buying.A nice scotch/whiskey would be satisfying But a good ol fashioned brewskie never fails Edited November 15, 2014 by Soulfly3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnmplayer 447 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 How about a Flash Gordon Tequila el Fuego? They will be serving those in Atlanta in about a week from now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,289 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I'm stretching all weekend.. Yall know I gotta go back to work Monday right? ? #gettinloose-Josh Gordon, Twitter .... For those of you worried bout his hammy upon returnWhat's your drink of choice next weekend? I'm buying.A nice scotch/whiskey would be satisfying But a good ol fashioned brewskie never failsGordon is a shot of 151. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 4,386 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I'm stretching all weekend.. Yall know I gotta go back to work Monday right? ? #gettinloose-Josh Gordon, Twitter .... For those of you worried bout his hammy upon returnWhat's your drink of choice next weekend? I'm buying.A nice scotch/whiskey would be satisfying But a good ol fashioned brewskie never failsGordon is a shot of 151.Chased w some absinthe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave RL 47 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Orange Lightning1 shot Tequilla1 shot Vodka1 shot 151Orange Juice1 drink each reception (hopefully I'll have to make two) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alonzo Mosely 38 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 My future is in his hands.Don't say that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,289 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 My future is in his hands.Don't say thatWhy not? I'm in to win. If Gordon can be a top 5 WR as he was last time we saw him, I've got a shot to win it all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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