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I changed it after thinking about it for a second. My initial thinking was that TB's defense is awful and Kaep will have chances to take shots deep.Interesting. Torrey smith over Floyd. Rationale?
I changed it after thinking about it for a second. My initial thinking was that TB's defense is awful and Kaep will have chances to take shots deep.Interesting. Torrey smith over Floyd. Rationale?
Wonder if there may actually be some value here down the stretch. Arians says he wants Floyd more involved down the stretch. JJ Nelson seems best suited as a situational player. Fitz is apparently getting an MRI on his knee. I know Floyd got dinged himself late in the game as well.Even a broken clock is right twice a day?
hasn't been announced yet but I would bet that Floyd starts opposite Fitz this week in Minnesota (assuming he is healthy) - made some very good catchers Sunday against SFWonder if there may actually be some value here down the stretch. Arians says he wants Floyd more involved down the stretch. JJ Nelson seems best suited as a situational player. Fitz is apparently getting an MRI on his knee. I know Floyd got dinged himself late in the game as well.
I got Floyd as a throw in in a trade and after yesterday he might just be my WR3.
Nice. Thanks Kutta.On local radio this week Carson said that Floyd was going to be heavily involved the rest of the way and that he has lots of confidence in him.
Not sure I buy it, but just passing it along.
Excellent choiceCut Coates and picked up Floyd to round out my bench.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6759/michael-floydMichael Floyd was arrested on drunk driving charges early Monday morning.
A drunk Floyd was "found unconscious at the wheel" at 2:48AM in Scottsdale, Ariz. He's been charged with two counts of DUI, and one count "of obstructing a roadway and failure to obey a police officer." It's Floyd's second drunk driving arrest after he was popped at Notre Dame in 2011. The arrest comes at a low ebb for Floyd's play. It's possible he's facing a team-imposed suspension for Week 15, but that's pure speculation. An impending free agent, Floyd has put on a clinic in how not to get paid this season.
Source: ArizonaSports.com
Dec 12 - 1:07 PM
Man, between this and the Jeff Fisher news, Rotoworld has been salty today. I love it.An impending free agent, Floyd has put on a clinic in how not to get paid this season.
So unfair. How can he obey the police officer if he is unconscious.Michael Floyd may be under-rated . . . in celebrity dead pools:
Michael Floyd was arrested on drunk driving charges early Monday morning.
A drunk Floyd was "found unconscious at the wheel" at 2:48AM in Scottsdale, Ariz. He's been charged with two counts of DUI, and one count "of obstructing a roadway and failure to obey a police officer." It's Floyd's second drunk driving arrest after he was popped at Notre Dame in 2011. The arrest comes at a low ebb for Floyd's play. It's possible he's facing a team-imposed suspension for Week 15, but that's pure speculation. An impending free agent, Floyd has put on a clinic in how not to get paid this season.
Source: ArizonaSports.com
Dec 12 - 1:07 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6759/michael-floyd
Haha, it's Gresham.Should we start a new thread for who the benefactor is in the ARZ offense? Does it matter since he wasn't doing much?
Just more to Fitzgerald and DJohnson?
JJ Nelson?
I agree.Haha, it's Gresham.
W10
W11
W12
W13
W14
Brown
4
4
2
1
0
Floyd
6
5
5
8
3
Fitz
18
7
4
11
9
Nelson
6
5
4
2
3
Gresham
6
2
10
6
7
I've been banging this drum for a month now, Gresham is a low-end TE1 in PPR leagues.
I sure hope the Eagles feel that way about himBest news I've heard about him all year. Other than that dui he's been a good citizen. Good teammate. He needs a fresh start on a team that needs him. Hope he lands in a good spot with a good up and coming qb. He can easily be a #1 wr on another team. He has shown spurts of greatness already in his career.
Not a chance.Best news I've heard about him all year. Other than that dui he's been a good citizen. Good teammate. He needs a fresh start on a team that needs him. Hope he lands in a good spot with a good up and coming qb. He can easily be a #1 wr on another team. He has shown spurts of greatness already in his career.
Yeah I would've agreed with you last offseason but at some point you have to accept reality. I mean maybe I'd take a flier on him next year but no way could he be a no 1.Best news I've heard about him all year. Other than that dui he's been a good citizen. Good teammate. He needs a fresh start on a team that needs him. Hope he lands in a good spot with a good up and coming qb. He can easily be a #1 wr on another team. He has shown spurts of greatness already in his career.
If someone picks him up for the rest of the year, the Cards save 1.2m in salary this year. So there is some good reason to cut him now.This says even more than most people think about how badly the Cardinals wanted this guy out of their locker room.
Think about it: with just a few weeks to go until he was no longer their problem, they cut him and potentially threw away the compensatory draft pick they'd have been due if another team gave him a decent contract in FA.
I was very high on him. I thought he was a 1,000 yard 7 TD guy. Glad I don't give advice and take the heat for stuff like this.I was all-in on 'contract year Floyd'. Holy cow what a meltdown.
I don't really have a strong stance on the draft pedigree thing, probably falling somewhere in the middle. But are you implying Floyd isn't any good? I know he hasn't broken out like would be expected from a 1st round pick, but there have been some unfortunate circumstances surrounding his career. I know people will just say excuses, excuses, but I try to keep an open mind. Sometimes a change of scenery is all someone with talent needs to get it together. Not saying that's the case here, but looking at his career, this is the only year that really looks odd:Once again, contrary to what we keep being told by some here, draft pedigree and combine numbers are not this great indicator of success in the NFL - or at least from a probability standpoint, you could do just as well calling a future hit or miss on a coin flip (first round picks living up to their draft slot at best about 50% of the time).
Crabtree's qb situation was worse.I don't really have a strong stance on the draft pedigree thing, probably falling somewhere in the middle. But are you implying Floyd isn't any good? I know he hasn't broken out like would be expected from a 1st round pick, but there have been some unfortunate circumstances surrounding his career. I know people will just say excuses, excuses, but I try to keep an open mind. Sometimes a change of scenery is all someone with talent needs to get it together. Not saying that's the case here, but looking at his career, this is the only year that really looks odd:
Rookie year - not a lot of playing time or targets, which is fine. 2nd year - nice little breakout on 111 targets. 3rd year - total QB debacle in Arizona. 4th year - nasty preseason finger dislocation sets him back, John Brown shines in his absence and steals his job, plays limited snaps to begin the season. Also has hamstring injury in which he misses a game and plays limited snaps in others. Taking those things into context, a decent year (five 100 yard games). 5th year - Palmer had a bad year and so did Floyd. Down year or beginning of the end?
I could easily see him pulling a Crabtree. Signing a 1 year "prove it" contract and getting it done. Crabtree's first six years were quite possibly more disappointing that Floyd's first five. Floyd will be about the same age Crabtree was when he signed with Oakland (Floyd a few months younger).
I'm not saying I'm all in on him or to bank on a turnaround next year, but he's not some untalented/overrated hack who didn't belong in the first round.
P.S. I think I recall reading that draft pedigree and college performance was pretty strongly correlated to NFL performance for WRs, but combine numbers had the smallest correlation for WRs out of all the positions.
Draft pedigree is a great indicator of success in the NFL; almost certainly the best one we have. First-round picks succeeding 50% of the time isn't a coin flip unless second-round and seventh-round picks also succeed 50% of the time.Once again, contrary to what we keep being told by some here, draft pedigree and combine numbers are not this great indicator of success in the NFL - or at least from a probability standpoint, you could do just as well calling a future hit or miss on a coin flip (first round picks living up to their draft slot at best about 50% of the time).
Being the best indicator doesn't mean it is still not a dicey indicator. The stats confirm it in my mind. But I have had this argument numerous times in this forum over the years with people who swear by the draft pedigree/combine numbers model, which I consider junk science. But that is just my opinion and we will have to agree to disagree on this.Draft pedigree is a great indicator of success in the NFL; almost certainly the best one we have. First-round picks succeeding 50% of the time isn't a coin flip unless second-round and seventh-round picks also succeed 50% of the time.
Being picked in the first round isn't a guarantee; there's a lot of uncertainty in football. But it's a pretty strong indicator that the player is better than hundreds of others in the draft pool. Draft order is, after all, determined by professionals whose only job is to figure out which players are better.
If someone invites you to play Russian Roulette and you get to choose whether the gun starts with three bullets or one, I don't think you'd call that a coin flip.
So he's just going to get thrown in as a stater right away and know their offense?The pats just hit gold. He is immediately going to be their best outside big bodied wr (minus when he will serve suspension). Just like belicheck to take a talented cast off and turn him into gold.