Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
then that's not exactly having a ####### wrecked back, is it?
did you see the ####### part in that voluminous 2 ####### line post about him wrecking his ####### back?
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did you see the ####### part in that voluminous 2 ####### line post about him wrecking his ####### back?
cstu
Footballguy
What I said is true - he would have to prove he physically can't play to keep the $10M.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
he could just reference this post for evidenceDonnybrook said:
Donnybrook
Footballguy
I was just asking because I remember Favre retired after his shoulder injury. If I recall correctly, Favre's retirement was beneficial to the Jets since cutting him would have left them with more dead money.
Favre of course un-retired and signed with the Vikings later in the year.
Favre of course un-retired and signed with the Vikings later in the year.
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Donnybrook
Footballguy
The media of course won't let ADP to Cowboys story die. It is their fantasy news story much like Johnny Football playing in his home state.
cstu
Footballguy
Larry, if you want to hear that you're right so much - here you go...you're right.
Now can you relax?
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
well, they're in the business of generating clicks and we're talking about it right now.
there isn't some big thread about the eagles trading brandon boykin
it's not currently an impossible trade if the 3 parties want to work it out, but you can say that about all kinds of made up trades
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
Old Smiley
Footballguy
In other news: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
(Now, there's an old joke for ya.)
ninerfan
Footballguy
Peterson an option for Browns?
http://www.thehuddle.com/fantasy_football_news.php#43756
In my best Michael Scott voice... NO! Please God, NO!
http://www.thehuddle.com/fantasy_football_news.php#43756
In my best Michael Scott voice... NO! Please God, NO!
Old Smiley
Footballguy
I think a lot of this is his agent. I wonder how interested Ari really is. You can scheme up a running game for a third of that money. In Ari's case, get a pass blocker. Protect Palmer's old bones. You know he's going to be waiting on deep routes...
BigJim®
Footballguy
I think this meeting, and the future appeal, are where Dogra's recent representation of AP's stance muddy waters a bit for AP. It's going to be hard for AP to give appearance that he appreciates the gravity of his actions when he is (via his agent) still taking a public stance that the NFL overstepped authority, and now that his team didn't back him up contesting punishment. The prior appeal victory was technical, and not substantive (in holding NFL could not apply a new standard retroactively, but being silent on other very strong/broad rights for the NFL that existed before the new policy). The NFL may eventually be vindicated that they had this same authority under broad former powers. Seems like a fine line to walk if AP is needing to show the NFL that he is contrite.
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
i think its pretty obvious AP thinks he is the victim and does not feel he should have been suspended or suffer any punishment from the league for his heinous crime. i hope he never plays another down because of the fact that he does not understand the gravity of the situation and he still thinks people owe him something.
that being said i think the league uses all its force to make sure he suffers in the NFL for it especially with how he is playing the victim.
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fridayfrenzy
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You do realize that a federal judge agreed with AD's stance that he should not have been suspended, right?VarsityBlues123 said:
Regardless of your opinion on the act itself the NFL overstepped based on the agreement they were bound by.
BigJim®
Footballguy
That's an incomplete assessment of the prior judge ruling. He merely ruled that the NFL could not apply its new domestic violence policy retroactively, which was the basis under which AP was originally suspended. The judge did not rule on the ability of the NFL to suspend under its powers which predated the new domestic violence policy. Under the prior CBA, the NFL did have the authority to suspend players broadly under conduct detrimental to the league, which they had in fact done before (e.g. Roethisberger).
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
The comment by VarsityBlues
"pretty obvious AP thinks he is the victim and does not feel he should have been suspended or suffer any punishment from the league for his heinous crime."
I was just pointing to the fact that AD was unfairly suspended and did have a legitimate gripe.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Understand that Jerry might not care what most people think, but is bringing in AD after signing Hardy really the message he wants to bring?
Maybe it is, but for most teams signing one of those guys could be a PR problem.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Pretty sure Jerry just wants to win. They drafted Dez and signed Hardy. I don't think bringing in AD pushes them over an unethical limit they have.
The decision lies in the value received with AD on the team and the cap difference. With the offensive line Dallas has it seems like they could plug many RBs and have a lot of success
Old Smiley
Footballguy
The thing is, Jerry might think the Cowboys are really close to a championship run. And as much as it pains me to say it, he might be right. They tell me that line's really something.
And that's the right place for AP. Somebody close. He can't turn a stinking franchise around, but if you were missing one ingredient....
I hope I'm wrong. I'll be hating on the Cowboys as long as there's a Jones running things.
Lucky Dolfan 81
Footballguy
I don't know why everyone keeps connecting the dots between AD and big D. They obviously don't want to spend big money on a RB, as we saw with Murray. So now they're going to trade a draft pick for a 30 year old RB, and pay him north of 10 Mill a year? No way it happens.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
-AD is from Texas
-The Cowboys don't have a starting RB on the roster
-AD told Jerry Jones he wants to play for the Cowboys and retire a Cowboy
-AD is one of the best RBs ever to play in the NFL and playing behind a great OL would be a match made in heaven
-Jerry Jones wants to win at any cost
mr roboto
Footballguy
Wat?
Proust Loves Cake
Footballguy
Heh. Not happening. If MIN takes Carr and his salary, Dallas might be willing to offer a 3rd and a 2016 pick. But, no way a 1st is going anywhere for a 30 yo RB with that fat a contract.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Do people realize how much money you can save by signing a rookie? Dallas might have their choice of running back at 27.
27 Deone Bucannon SS Arizona Cardinals Signed 4 years, $7.71M, $6.24M guaranteedThe cap hit for the 27 pick would be less than $1.5 M cap hit per year. Adrian Peterson contract is 3 years $45 M. I must be one of the few people that thinks Jerry Jones is not an idiot.
27 Deone Bucannon SS Arizona Cardinals Signed 4 years, $7.71M, $6.24M guaranteedThe cap hit for the 27 pick would be less than $1.5 M cap hit per year. Adrian Peterson contract is 3 years $45 M. I must be one of the few people that thinks Jerry Jones is not an idiot.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
The Cowboys had the NFL's leading rusher on their roster, who wanted to stay with the team, and they didn't want to pay him even $8MM. Was Murray not a "match made in heaven" and was he keeping them from winning? Could Peterson really be expected to put up more than the 1,800 rushing yards Murray put up last season?
It seems like trading an asset for Peterson when they could have kept Murray for less money and otherwise for "free", would be a pretty terrible business decision. Not that it won't happen, but it's not as clear as your trying to make it seem.
FUBAR
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
it doesnt matter what peterson wants the vikings own his rights.
it doesnt matter what the fans want the vikings own his rights.
it doesnt matter what reporters want the vikings own his rights.
keep saying it to yourself and then you will start to realize peterson is under a contract and the only people and what they want to matter are the vikings and they say they are not trading him and they have the room to keep him. fantasy football hope drives a lot of these conversations. it drives so much influence that Schefter and Rappaport report things on a fantasy speculative more time then not much like the brees trade rumors.
all this and the cowboys have no cap room to make it possible but he is gonna take a few mil or so less just to play in dallas? but your telling me fantasy hype and speculation isnt driving a thought of a man playing for a few mil less.
it doesnt matter what the fans want the vikings own his rights.
it doesnt matter what reporters want the vikings own his rights.
keep saying it to yourself and then you will start to realize peterson is under a contract and the only people and what they want to matter are the vikings and they say they are not trading him and they have the room to keep him. fantasy football hope drives a lot of these conversations. it drives so much influence that Schefter and Rappaport report things on a fantasy speculative more time then not much like the brees trade rumors.
all this and the cowboys have no cap room to make it possible but he is gonna take a few mil or so less just to play in dallas? but your telling me fantasy hype and speculation isnt driving a thought of a man playing for a few mil less.
snogger
Footballguy
Except there have already been many "leaked" reports that ADP is willing to take less to play elsewhere..
As for the Vikings saying they won't trade him..
I've seen plenty of "We want him to play here" and "we will welcome him back".. But unless I missed the Article I've never seen them say straight out "We won't trade Peterson no matter what".
If a team offers the Vikings what they feel is the right price they won't have 2nd thoughts about it.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Cool, so even if AD took the hard line and retired, he'd be forced to play for the Vikings?
FWIW I doubt it happens and most likely he's a Viking in 2015. But to say he has no voice is incorrect.
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
same leaked reports about the dez video? same leaked reports about brees getting traded? same leaked reports about anything that may not be true?Except there have already been many "leaked" reports that ADP is willing to take less to play elsewhere..
As for the Vikings saying they won't trade him..
I've seen plenty of "We want him to play here" and "we will welcome him back".. But unless I missed the Article I've never seen them say straight out "We won't trade Peterson no matter what".
If a team offers the Vikings what they feel is the right price they won't have 2nd thoughts about it.
FUBAR
Footballguy
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
shows their players that they do not dictate what they (the vikings) will or wont do regarding said player.
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
so peterson is the victim here?FUBAR said:
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
yeah, usually you'd see the report of a team stating they plan on trading a guy weeks before it happens
shark pool be sharkin'
shark pool be sharkin'
cstu
Footballguy
The only way this situation hurts them with free agents if he they do what some have suggested and cut him right before the season to be vindictive.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I'm referring to whatever he feels was done wrong to him (reports are the suspension). What you or I think about it doesn't really matter.
How players view it will matter and I'd just speculate that he'll have a few supporters among his peers.
B-Deep
Footballguy
people are suggesting that?
crazy
they are happy the way things are, let him gripe and complain the n collect his big check and prove his worth on the field
