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As petty as Rodgers has been throughout this and throughout his career with his passive-aggresive behavior, does anyone believe that had Gutekunst included Rodgers in their decision to draft his successor, Rodgers wouldn't have done something to sabotage/derail the pick of a QB? Or that including him would have avoided a tantrum?
It's completely counter-intuitive to think a pre-draft phone call - "hey, we might take a QB in the first round, just fyi thanks!" - would have changed anything. And yet, that seems to be the dominant public opinion on this. I saw Alex Smith earlier this week say it was "inexcusable" that the Packers didn't run their draft decisions past him in advance. The only way that might have helped is if he makes it clear he's going to make life insufferable for everyone involved if they draft a QB, so they change their mind and draft someone else. For me, that's an even worse outcome because then we have a player who knows he controls management entirely. Honestly, this is changing somewhat my view of his terrible play in McCarthy's final season.
Honestly, it seems like nothing has ever been Aaron's fault in his eyes. He's completely severed ties with most his immediate family, held grudges his entire life and while I understand it is frustrating to see guys like Mahomes, Brady have offenses built around him - he has also sung the praises of a Jake Kumerow, Aging Jordy Nelson and no-name Allen Lazard. If you are saying things are satisfactory, while your defense couldn't stop anyone, they're going to build on defense.
They're are thinking how bad it'll look personally if Rodgers goes and wins somewhere while Love is terrible and they have a losing record. Hardly anybody thinks about the team, they're thinking about themselves almost entirely.
I agree. Greed and ego are usually at the top of the pyramid. Gute is weighing the best options that will a) keep his paycheck coming and b) avoid looking the worst GM in NFL history. Not sure he can pull off both.
Can't imagine that would go over well with Packer fans. I don't see much option for him but to play for the Texans and rehab his image. People will sort of forget in a year or two. At least enough for him not to be completely toxic. Although I could see a team like the Eagles trading for him if they didn't have to give much.daveR said:
I think the issue is more why are you drafting a successor, when you are in the midst of a championship window and your team has needs? I mean everyone knows when their team is at that point--that championship point, where a player here or a player there is all it is going to take to put you over that hump. As a Denver fan, it was great seeing management going all in when Peyton came to town. They opened their pocketbooks up, surrounded him with players on both sides of the ball, said be damn the future and a title was had.
I definitely get all of this - whether they were right or wrong to draft a QB in the first round in 2020 is a legitimate question and certainly one the GM has and will continue to have to answer for. If Ted Thompson's experience drafting Rodgers to replace Favre is any sort of guide, the current GM will pay dearly for this until his dying day, even if the decision is massively vindicated. But this is a separate issue from the one I was responding to. The issue many have been discussing which I and others were responding to is the notion that the team messed up by not calling Rodgers before making their draft pick - whether to get his blessing or just keep him in the loop. Many have said this was an inexcusable, incomprehensible mistake. I don't think it would have changed anything, but agree there is an apparent communication breakdown somewhere behind the scenes at 1265 Lombardi Avenue.
The mistake was drafting Love and it was a huge mistake. The world knew the right draft move was to build the team around Rogers while the championship window was open. Rogers is a weirdo and a big baby but GB created this mess.
This mess has been brewing for several years. It is crappy management style. It puts players in a crappy situation. People that pour out everything in their souls into winning and then getting treated like some kind of pawn will irritate anyone. The fact that the Packers management can't set their ego aside and want to play hardball will lead to only one outcome......Rodgers retiring, at least temporarily.
Except people are acting like going into 2020 that Rodgers had played like he did in 2020. That wasn't the case in 2018 or 2019.
Last year FF "expert" Evan Silva said "Aaron Rodgers is not a good fantasy football quarterback." The consensus was he was a fringe QB1, and not one you would want to target.
He was the MVP last year at 37, and they've played in the NFCCC game two years in a row. How is this a "crappy situation"? The team has put Rodgers in a fantastic situation for 15 years and has the record and contract history to show for it. They are clearly going all-in on #12 again this offseason.
King was saying a couple weeks ago he thought cooler heads might prevail. This is big if he’s shifting back to thinking he won’t play for GB again
Click through to the article to see it is almost the exact opposite of OP's summary. Actual headline is "Aaron Rodgers, The Green Bay Packers And The Compromise That Helps Everyone Get What They Want" First sentence is, "I have a bridge-building idea for the Aaron Rodgers dilemma. The more I think about it, the more I think, Why not?"
Was that a correct prognostication for 2020?
No. He ended up either Qb 1 or 2 depending on scoring system. My point was adding a little credence to Sho Nuff's point that GB drafted Love when Rodgers was at his alpha level we once, and now again, think of him as playing on. He had a couple of fairly mediocre seasons (for him) going into that draft. Fantasy circles reflected that.
Please, he made a comment just to annoy Rodgers. If you don't think he knew what he was doing you're naive. That's the stage it's at, both sides taking little shots at each other and trying to gain the fans support.
If you were able to put the top QBs of all-time, in their respective primes, on the exact same teams, I would take him over all others. The problem with football is there are so many intangibles that go into where each QB's career trajectory takes them. In the ultimate team sport, comparisons via simply numbers are a fool's task. Situations vary so widely, it's impossible to compare.
Yeah I know. I was one of the folks arguing against how low Rodgers was valued in dynasty prior to last season.facook said:
I just think the whole thing is funny and irrelevant, like 90% of the takes throughout this going back to Shefty's tweet on draft day. Rodgers is already mocking the hype: https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1404884969835671559/7Nwg9Rzh?format=jpg&name=small
I agree with all of that, yet… James Jones went out of his way to give a convoluted and rambling defense of Aaron not being complicated. 0% chance he said that without Aaron influence/request. I think that means this was - as crazy as it seems - something that bothered Rodgers enough to set a record straight.
